The Eagles Thread

[Embiid P]

I can't really blame Sanchez or Chip too much for this loss though. Chip tried to limit his throws and for good reason against that secondary. His deep ball just doesn't have enough on it. With a better QB, I'm sure he would have challenged their secondary more.

I thought Sanchez didn't see the field well enough. He looked really worried about not making a mistake instead of letting things come to him. Ertz was open a hell of a lot today. Agree with you on Chip limiting him a little. Chip clearly doesn't trust Sanchez well enough to want to open up the entire playbook and our QB situation doesn't exactly scare defences like Seattle's.

True Ertz was open a lot but Sanchez missed him on quite a few throws. Another factor that hurts us against a team like Seattle is the DeSean factor, or lack thereof. The main weakness of Seattle's corners is covering smaller, faster receivers like DeSean, Eddie Royal etc. We really could have used him yesterday.

[blazza18]

Just having a quick glance of pics/vines of coaches tape on twitter this morning. It's clear guys were open all day. We win with better QB play.

[MCtripDub]

I can't really blame Sanchez or Chip too much for this loss though. Chip tried to limit his throws and for good reason against that secondary. His deep ball just doesn't have enough on it. With a better QB, I'm sure he would have challenged their secondary more.

I thought Sanchez didn't see the field well enough. He looked really worried about not making a mistake instead of letting things come to him. Ertz was open a hell of a lot today. Agree with you on Chip limiting him a little. Chip clearly doesn't trust Sanchez well enough to want to open up the entire playbook and our QB situation doesn't exactly scare defences like Seattle's.

True Ertz was open a lot but Sanchez missed him on quite a few throws. Another factor that hurts us against a team like Seattle is the DeSean factor, or lack thereof. The main weakness of Seattle's corners is covering smaller, faster receivers like DeSean, Eddie Royal etc. We really could have used him yesterday.

Is it the lack of a deep threat (Djax) or is it just chip's play call? I feel like Jmac has the speed to be a threat down field, but it almost seems as if we dont have plays that just have him going vertical (anymore, at least). Is it just me or has Jmac's recent catches been on screen plays or curl routes?

[Embiid P]

I thought Sanchez didn't see the field well enough. He looked really worried about not making a mistake instead of letting things come to him. Ertz was open a hell of a lot today. Agree with you on Chip limiting him a little. Chip clearly doesn't trust Sanchez well enough to want to open up the entire playbook and our QB situation doesn't exactly scare defences like Seattle's.

True Ertz was open a lot but Sanchez missed him on quite a few throws. Another factor that hurts us against a team like Seattle is the DeSean factor, or lack thereof. The main weakness of Seattle's corners is covering smaller, faster receivers like DeSean, Eddie Royal etc. We really could have used him yesterday.

Is it the lack of a deep threat (Djax) or is it just chip's play call? I feel like Jmac has the speed to be a threat down field, but it almost seems as if we dont have plays that just have him going vertical (anymore, at least). Is it just me or has Jmac's recent catches been on screen plays or curl routes?

You have to consider the fact that neither Sanchez or Foles throw a great deep ball. The few times that Sanchez went deep to Cooper he was way off the mark on his throws. Also, Sherman even said after the game that the Eagles miss Jackson's speed in their offense. Hence getting another deep threat WR along with a QB with a strong arm and good mobility should be a priority in the offseason.

[blazza18]

You have to consider the fact that neither Sanchez or Foles throw a great deep ball. The few times that Sanchez went deep to Cooper he was way off the mark on his throws. Also, Sherman even said after the game that the Eagles miss Jackson's speed in their offense. Hence getting another deep threat WR along with a QB with a strong arm and good mobility should be a priority in the offseason.

We still had the deep ball with Foles though, which after a rough first month, he was getting much better. However, Chip's completely taken it out of his playbook with Sanchez in there. I guess he's trying to make things easier for Sanchez or something. I don't think Chip fully trusts Mark to throw it deep and make the right decisions.

[Embiid P]

LOL @ Dez Bryant getting into it with Malcolm Jenkins before the game. It's time to shut his mouth up permanently.

[youngcrev]

[CoreyGallagher]

Some horrendous calls early, but still plenty of time.

[76ers3]

I don't mind losing sometimes, it is going to happen, but losing to the Cowboys makes me furious..

[blazza18]

We need a QB in the worst kind of way.

[Embiid P]

We need a QB in the worst kind of way.

Considering that trading up for Mariota would be a bad idea, I'd say we have to address the secondary first, and then hope we can find a QB in the 3rd or 4th rounder of the draft.

[bebopdeluxe]

We need a QB in the worst kind of way.

Considering that trading up for Mariota would be a bad idea, I'd say we have to address the secondary first, and then hope we can find a QB in the 3rd or 4th rounder of the draft.

Word. We need cornerbacks BAD. It may still be early days, but taking Smith over any of the DB's who were still on the board may come back to haunt this team over the next couple of years.

I am not enough of a draft guru, but we have too many needs on defense to give up the farm for Mariota. Before we worry about our QB play, we have to find a way to defend the pass without blitzing...and that will only happen with an upgraded secondary. I do think the Eagles need to use a 3rd-4th round pick on a QB that can be a true dual-threat read-option guy...probably a guy who is a runner first, and can have his throwing mechanics repaired. I don't think that Snyder is stupid enough to make RG3 available to the Eagles (the PR nightmare risk is too great) - I don't know if he can ever learn the quick-readability that Kelly would want...but if his mechanics could be fixed?

Wow.

Perhaps Hundley drops to us. That way, we could still use our 2 on a CB.

[Embiid P]

We need a QB in the worst kind of way.

Considering that trading up for Mariota would be a bad idea, I'd say we have to address the secondary first, and then hope we can find a QB in the 3rd or 4th rounder of the draft.

Word. We need cornerbacks BAD. It may still be early days, but taking Smith over any of the DB's who were still on the board may come back to haunt this team over the next couple of years.

I am not enough of a draft guru, but we have too many needs on defense to give up the farm for Mariota. Before we worry about our QB play, we have to find a way to defend the pass without blitzing...and that will only happen with an upgraded secondary. I do think the Eagles need to use a 3rd-4th round pick on a QB that can be a true dual-threat read-option guy...probably a guy who is a runner first, and can have his throwing mechanics repaired. I don't think that Snyder is stupid enough to make RG3 available to the Eagles (the PR nightmare risk is too great) - I don't know if he can ever learn the quick-readability that Kelly would want...but if his mechanics could be fixed?

Wow.

Perhaps Hundley drops to us. That way, we could still use our 2 on a CB.

I would take a chance on RG3 if he didn't cost us too much. Hell I might even be inclined to do a Foles for RG swap. Then draft a QB no later than in the third round as insurance in case he doesn't work out.

Aside from obvious help in the secondary we'll also need help on the O line, assuming Herremans is gone, and another pass rusher, since Cole is likely to be gone as is Ryans at MLB. Unless Marcus Smith miraculously turns it around next year we have another hole at LB.

Hopefully they will address some of these needs in free agency, but they really have to get it right in the draft this time, since as of right now the only good draft choice they made in 2014 has been Jordan Matthews.

[GoSixersBro]

A big fat no thank you to RG3-and-out.

[76ers3]

I miss the Shepherd-Samuel-Brown-Mikell-Dawkins secondary. Oh, and Jim Johnson too...

It is weird how were two potential plays from being 11-3, but instead, there is a decent shot we miss the playoffs.

[Embiid P]

Supposedly the CBs in this draft class aren't all that great. The guy from Oregon is considered the best at his position but at only 5'10" he may be too short for Chip's liking.

Personally, I would like to see them make a push for Revis in free agency. I know he'll be on the older side at 30 and will probably command 8 figures again, but if he has at least 1-2 years of high-level play left in his career, it would be worth it IMO.

[MCDubbin]

Supposedly the CBs in this draft class aren't all that great. The guy from Oregon is considered the best at his position but at only 5'10" he may be too short for Chip's liking.

Personally, I would like to see them make a push for Revis in free agency. I know he'll be on the older side at 30 and will probably command 8 figures again, but if he has at least 1-2 years of high-level play left in his career, it would be worth it IMO.

Never want to sign a huge FA CB ever again ever since Nnamdi. Also Chip loves Oregon guys. But I don't think he will fall to us though. He's a top 15 talent in my opinion and am huge on him.

[Embiid P]

Supposedly the CBs in this draft class aren't all that great. The guy from Oregon is considered the best at his position but at only 5'10" he may be too short for Chip's liking.

Personally, I would like to see them make a push for Revis in free agency. I know he'll be on the older side at 30 and will probably command 8 figures again, but if he has at least 1-2 years of high-level play left in his career, it would be worth it IMO.

Never want to sign a huge FA CB ever again ever since Nnamdi. Also Chip loves Oregon guys. But I don't think he will fall to us though. He's a top 15 talent in my opinion and am huge on him.

You can't always let past failures in free agency dictate present-day decisions. Nnamdi flourished in Oakland primarily because he was a product of their defensive scheme. Revis has shown that he can excel in multiple schemes. As pretty much a sure thing, I think you have to at least make a run at him in the offseason if nothing else.

We can't afford to look for bargain CB deals in free agency i.e. Fletcher and Williams. They've shown that more often than not, you get what you pay for. As for the Oregon kid, IDK he could be great one day, but Chip and Billy Davis like tall, physical corners. They might be more inclined to go with the kid from LSU in the 2nd.

[MCDubbin]

Supposedly the CBs in this draft class aren't all that great. The guy from Oregon is considered the best at his position but at only 5'10" he may be too short for Chip's liking.

Personally, I would like to see them make a push for Revis in free agency. I know he'll be on the older side at 30 and will probably command 8 figures again, but if he has at least 1-2 years of high-level play left in his career, it would be worth it IMO.

Never want to sign a huge FA CB ever again ever since Nnamdi. Also Chip loves Oregon guys. But I don't think he will fall to us though. He's a top 15 talent in my opinion and am huge on him.

You can't always let past failures in free agency dictate present-day decisions. Nnamdi flourished in Oakland primarily because he was a product of their defensive scheme. Revis has shown that he can excel in multiple schemes. As pretty much a sure thing, I think you have to at least make a run at him in the offseason if nothing else.

We can't afford to look for bargain CB deals in free agency i.e. Fletcher and Williams. They've shown that more often than not, you get what you pay for. As for the Oregon kid, IDK he could be great one day, but Chip and Billy Davis like tall, physical corners. They might be more inclined to go with the kid from LSU in the 2nd.

Actually Revis wasn't good with the scheme when he was with Tampa. Plus signing a big FA for big money especially someone who hit 30 is not a good idea. We always been good with cap spaces but after next season, we have to resign so many crucial players for a good contract.

Oregon CB is cut from a different cloth than the rest. He can play zone and man and despite his size, he plays big. Very physical and excellent ball skills. If you don't want to settle for a mediocre cb, go after him.

[Embiid P]

Never want to sign a huge FA CB ever again ever since Nnamdi. Also Chip loves Oregon guys. But I don't think he will fall to us though. He's a top 15 talent in my opinion and am huge on him.

You can't always let past failures in free agency dictate present-day decisions. Nnamdi flourished in Oakland primarily because he was a product of their defensive scheme. Revis has shown that he can excel in multiple schemes. As pretty much a sure thing, I think you have to at least make a run at him in the offseason if nothing else.

We can't afford to look for bargain CB deals in free agency i.e. Fletcher and Williams. They've shown that more often than not, you get what you pay for. As for the Oregon kid, IDK he could be great one day, but Chip and Billy Davis like tall, physical corners. They might be more inclined to go with the kid from LSU in the 2nd.

Actually Revis wasn't good with the scheme when he was with Tampa. Plus signing a big FA for big money especially someone who hit 30 is not a good idea. We always been good with cap spaces but after next season, we have to resign so many crucial players for a good contract.

Oregon CB is cut from a different cloth than the rest. He can play zone and man and despite his size, he plays big. Very physical and excellent ball skills. If you don't want to settle for a mediocre cb, go after him.

Well it looks like he suffered a possible torn ACL in practice yesterday, so maybe he can now be had in later rounds.

On the downside, it weakens this CB class even more than what it already was.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2265 ... and-return