17/12/2014- Wednesday's Game Thread

[Perkele]

I never said he didnt get fouled man... i only said is ugly.

Im aware he gets contact, and has a knack for initiating it, agresive driving players get a lot of fouls, JH just got it to a level that makes it hard to watch.

Pretty much this. I know he's a good player, but this is just annoying to watch. I know it's part of the game, but that's definitely not resembling the style of game I like.

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[Mr. E]

Nah people bitch cause he flops and cheats. For a guy who is a supposed mvp candidate he sure does get alot of help. I've had non basketball fans watch him and even they were like wow this guy gets alot of cheap calls. Its not up for debate he flops and its annoying and isn't good for tge game.

I'm calling BS here.

I don't think that you've gone out of your way to have non-BB fans watch James Harden playing basketball.

I do believe that you might pick and choose some plays in order to get some "non-fans" to agree with you.

[Shock Defeat]

Mehhh Harden did play a great game, i won't deny it...

But Harden 18-21 FT

THE WHOLE FREAKING DENVER TEAM IN A OT GAME 18-23

And then Houston fans call out those who criticize him... haters, its a freaking easy to hate player.

Well, no, the way he plays, i don't kknow him as a human being.

Did you watch the game? Did you see all of his drives into the paint? Did you see all of the times he is hacked across the arms? People want to get upset, but watch the replays and you can clearly see he was fouled. Like on that 3pt attempt where he was hit across the arm (and shot a tech FT, so that's four on one trip). Follow Steve Kerr's lead and watch gametape after and you will stop complaining. Denver didn't drive into the paint like Houston and Harden did.

People bitch just to bitch because it is the popular thing to do.

Nah people bitch cause he flops and cheats. For a guy who is a supposed mvp candidate he sure does get alot of help. I've had non basketball fans watch him and even they were like wow this guy gets alot of cheap calls. Its not up for debate he flops and its annoying and isn't good for tge game.

Because the best experts to chime in on this is non basketball fans.

Meanwhile you have Hubie Brown talking all night about how his fouls are legit.

But I trust your non basketball fans opinion.

[Guerilla713]

Mehhh Harden did play a great game, i won't deny it...

But Harden 18-21 FT

THE WHOLE FREAKING DENVER TEAM IN A OT GAME 18-23

And then Houston fans call out those who criticize him... haters, its a freaking easy to hate player.

Well, no, the way he plays, i don't kknow him as a human being.

Did you watch the game? Did you see all of his drives into the paint? Did you see all of the times he is hacked across the arms? People want to get upset, but watch the replays and you can clearly see he was fouled. Like on that 3pt attempt where he was hit across the arm (and shot a tech FT, so that's four on one trip). Follow Steve Kerr's lead and watch gametape after and you will stop complaining. Denver didn't drive into the paint like Houston and Harden did.

People bitch just to bitch because it is the popular thing to do.

Nah people bitch cause he flops and cheats. For a guy who is a supposed mvp candidate he sure does get alot of help. I've had non basketball fans watch him and even they were like wow this guy gets alot of cheap calls. Its not up for debate he flops and its annoying and isn't good for tge game.

Nah, you are just another person falling into popular opinion without researching NBA history. The ESPN/Bleacher Report world. Go look at Harden's FTAs, then go look at Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Shaq, Allen Iverson, Dirk, Tim Duncan, etc., etc., etc. Basically any superstar player. You will see that they all get a similar number of FTAs to Harden. What Harden is doing is no different than what other great players did. I use to always complain about Kobe and Dirk getting free throws. Superstars get those called. If it was so easy, every player would do it.

[blazertown7]

Those players played the game to score. They drive to the bucket to score. Harden plays to flop and get fouls. Take away those guys free throws and they still are dominant. They still have other parts of their game. Hardens game is fouls and flops. And no I dont mean he cant shoot but if u take away those ft's how good is he really. Can he really be an mvp. Plus harden isn't anywhere near those guys. And no I dont go with the popular opinion. I argued with 5 or 6 people yesterday because I disagree. But continue on with defending harden. Haha get it defense...harden.

[blazertown7]

Did you watch the game? Did you see all of his drives into the paint? Did you see all of the times he is hacked across the arms? People want to get upset, but watch the replays and you can clearly see he was fouled. Like on that 3pt attempt where he was hit across the arm (and shot a tech FT, so that's four on one trip). Follow Steve Kerr's lead and watch gametape after and you will stop complaining. Denver didn't drive into the paint like Houston and Harden did.

People bitch just to bitch because it is the popular thing to do.

Nah people bitch cause he flops and cheats. For a guy who is a supposed mvp candidate he sure does get alot of help. I've had non basketball fans watch him and even they were like wow this guy gets alot of cheap calls. Its not up for debate he flops and its annoying and isn't good for tge game.

Because the best experts to chime in on this is non basketball fans.

Meanwhile you have Hubie Brown talking all night about how his fouls are legit.

But I trust your non basketball fans opinion.

Its safe to say basketball fans know he flops. I thought this was well know. And you trust hubie brown? Haha.

[Guerilla713]

Those players played the game to score. They drive to the bucket to score. Harden plays to flop and get fouls. Take away those guys free throws and they still are dominant. They still have other parts of their game. Hardens game is fouls and flops. And no I dont mean he cant shoot but if u take away those ft's how good is he really. Can he really be an mvp. Plus harden isn't anywhere near those guys. And no I dont go with the popular opinion. I argued with 5 or 6 people yesterday because I disagree. But continue on with defending harden. Haha get it defense...harden.

And Harden doesn't? Wow, I'm done with you. Too flawed of an argument bro. Harden is one of the leaders in points in the paint yet you come up with that? Smh.

[blazertown7]

Nah people bitch cause he flops and cheats. For a guy who is a supposed mvp candidate he sure does get alot of help. I've had non basketball fans watch him and even they were like wow this guy gets alot of cheap calls. Its not up for debate he flops and its annoying and isn't good for tge game.

I'm calling BS here.

I don't think that you've gone out of your way to have non-BB fans watch James Harden playing basketball.

I do believe that you might pick and choose some plays in order to get some "non-fans" to agree with you.

Nah my family was over for a party and he was playing. They were like who is the guy that keeps snapping his head back. Hes always shooting free throws. Trust me I wish it was bs lol.

[blazertown7]

Those players played the game to score. They drive to the bucket to score. Harden plays to flop and get fouls. Take away those guys free throws and they still are dominant. They still have other parts of their game. Hardens game is fouls and flops. And no I dont mean he cant shoot but if u take away those ft's how good is he really. Can he really be an mvp. Plus harden isn't anywhere near those guys. And no I dont go with the popular opinion. I argued with 5 or 6 people yesterday because I disagree. But continue on with defending harden. Haha get it defense...harden.

And Harden doesn't? Wow, I'm done with you. Too flawed of an argument bro. Harden is one of the leaders in points in the paint yet you come up with that? Smh.

If he didnt drive to get fouled why snap his head every time. Why not just go up and let whatever happens happen. Hes a good player but jesus why do people act like he doaent flop or act like he is the beat in the league? I dont get it.

[blazertown7]

Plus he's shooting 42 percent overall and 34 from 3. Yet you compare him to all time greats and people call that mvp. Look at steph curry stats and percentages and tell me james harden ia Better. Not even close.

[Guerilla713]

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[Guerilla713]

Those players played the game to score. They drive to the bucket to score. Harden plays to flop and get fouls. Take away those guys free throws and they still are dominant. They still have other parts of their game. Hardens game is fouls and flops. And no I dont mean he cant shoot but if u take away those ft's how good is he really. Can he really be an mvp. Plus harden isn't anywhere near those guys. And no I dont go with the popular opinion. I argued with 5 or 6 people yesterday because I disagree. But continue on with defending harden. Haha get it defense...harden.

And Harden doesn't? Wow, I'm done with you. Too flawed of an argument bro. Harden is one of the leaders in points in the paint yet you come up with that? Smh.

If he didnt drive to get fouled why snap his head every time. Why not just go up and let whatever happens happen. Hes a good player but jesus why do people act like he doaent flop or act like he is the beat in the league? I dont get it.

Please, please, go research what you're talking about first. I don't know why fans just listen to myths and run with it like you are doing. No one said Harden doesn't flop. He wouldn't be the first superstar to flop either.

[blazertown7]

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Bringing up the playoffs again???

[DreDay]

Plus he's shooting 42 percent overall and 34 from 3. Yet you compare him to all time greats and people call that mvp. Look at steph curry stats and percentages and tell me james harden ia Better. Not even close.

Yeah seriously SMH, it's not like Harden kills it without FT's. That's his game.

[blazertown7]

And Harden doesn't? Wow, I'm done with you. Too flawed of an argument bro. Harden is one of the leaders in points in the paint yet you come up with that? Smh.

If he didnt drive to get fouled why snap his head every time. Why not just go up and let whatever happens happen. Hes a good player but jesus why do people act like he doaent flop or act like he is the beat in the league? I dont get it.

Please, please, go research what you're talking about first. I don't know why fans just listen to myths and run with it like you are doing. No one said Harden doesn't flop. He wouldn't be the first superstar to flop either.

Tell me one star that flops to the degree that he does?

[Guerilla713]

If he didnt drive to get fouled why snap his head every time. Why not just go up and let whatever happens happen. Hes a good player but jesus why do people act like he doaent flop or act like he is the beat in the league? I dont get it.

Please, please, go research what you're talking about first. I don't know why fans just listen to myths and run with it like you are doing. No one said Harden doesn't flop. He wouldn't be the first superstar to flop either.

Tell me one star that flops to the degree that he does?

That's just too easy. Not even going to answer that. There are too many, especially from this and last generation.

[blazertown7]

Plus he's shooting 42 percent overall and 34 from 3. Yet you compare him to all time greats and people call that mvp. Look at steph curry stats and percentages and tell me james harden ia Better. Not even close.

Yeah seriously SMH, it's not like Harden kills it without FT's. That's his game.

Thats what I was trying to tell them. The players he compared them to aren't know for foul shots. Shaq is a dominant post player. Tim duncan is fundamentals. What is harden without free throws? A bad 3 point shooter? A guy that can Iso and get hot from time to time? Whatever I guess. Everyone who knows basketball and isn't just a highlight or points person knows what harden really is.

[Guerilla713]

Plus he's shooting 42 percent overall and 34 from 3. Yet you compare him to all time greats and people call that mvp. Look at steph curry stats and percentages and tell me james harden ia Better. Not even close.

Yeah seriously SMH, it's not like Harden kills it without FT's. That's his game.

Thats what I was trying to tell them. The players he compared them to aren't know for foul shots. Shaq is a dominant post player. Tim duncan is fundamentals. What is harden without free throws? A bad 3 point shooter? A guy that can Iso and get hot from time to time? Whatever I guess. Everyone who knows basketball and isn't just a highlight or points person knows what harden really is.

It doesn't matter what they are known for. What matters is that they still get to the line as much as, or more than Harden. And everyone that knows basketball knows who Harden really is? And I guess that is why Harden is an All NBA team member? Is that why he was selected to Team USA? That why GMs selected him as far and away the best SG in the game? Is that why coaches voted him to the all star team his first year in Houston. Your arguments are terrible bro. And it isn't just you. The people that try to say Harden is just a free throw shooter have the same lazy arguments.

[6rings4LeClutch]

Never seen anyone call Harden a non flopper and try to defend it this is hilarious.

He flops there's no argument about that and his percentages have shown how often he throws his hands up and doesn't get a call which continues to destroy his fg percentage.

[Guerilla713]

Never seen anyone call Harden a non flopper and try to defend it this is hilarious.

Could you quote the post where someone said he doesn't flop (as if he is the only star player that does)?