Rajon Rondo Traded To The Mavericks.

[bs_and_cs]

My Friend is best friends with james young and none of the young guys like Wallace.

1. Don't believe that.

2. That's not how you make business decisions, based on whether on of your employees is very likeable.

Let's see, should we trade an asset to move Gerald Wallace cause the 19-23 year olds aren't best friends with him or should we save our assets and let his contract expire?....hmm tough decision.

how the hell is Gerald Wallace is asset? Please tell me what you are gonna get for him. Is it cause his contract is gonna expire next year? Look how well that's working out with the cavs with Brendan Haywood. He has no value.

I also do not care if you don't belive it! You are more then welcome to PM for my email and I will show you proof he knows james young.

Gerald Wallace isn't an asset, you have to throw in an asset, like a 1st, in order to move a contract like Wallace.

[LobCityRondo2KG]

I actually like the protection on that pick

[theman]

With the Mavs loaded up to go for it this year, it actually makes it more likely we get a higher pick in 2016. Four 1st rounders in 2016.

Celtics
Nets (no protection)
Mavs (Top 7 protected)
Cavs (Top 10 Protected)

Dirk a year older. Maybe Rondo doesn't resign with Dallas.

[Celts17Pride]

Woj just tweeted the pick is protected 1-3 and 15 -30...... so basically we wont be getting it this coming draft. fantastic.

Deal just keeps getting better.

[greenroom31]

I actually like the protection on that pick

Agreed -- the protection is on our end, not theirs. This way if the pick ends up outside the lottery this year we don't get a late 1st rounder and we have a shot at a better pick next year when Dallas will have some players to figure out how to re-sign plus Dirk with another year on his tires.

[Shamrock]

I actually like the protection on that pick

It's a very intelligent move, for all we know the Mavs get killed in the first round, Rondo/Chandler walk and the team is left with Ellis/Parsons/Dirk and don't make the playoffs. Worst comes to worst we get a late 1st like we expected in the '15 draft

[truth18]

With the Mavs loaded up to go for it this year, it actually makes it more likely we get a higher pick in 2016. Four 1st rounders in 2016.

Celtics
Nets (no protection)
Mavs (Top 7 protected)
Cavs (Top 10 Protected)

Dirk a year older. Maybe Rondo doesn't resign with Dallas.

He will.

[CelticsPride18]

Well the deal got better with the protections becuase Chandler, Rondo and Ellis are FA this upcoming season. They could be worse next year.

[Avalanche]

Could see Monta moving on if Rondo really takes away his touches and re-signs

Then you have Dirk a year older and Chandler who can be fragile

2016 is a better gamble than this season

[BRUNiNHO91]

With the Mavs loaded up to go for it this year, it actually makes it more likely we get a higher pick in 2016. Four 1st rounders in 2016.

Celtics
Nets (no protection)
Mavs (Top 7 protected)
Cavs (Top 10 Protected)

Dirk a year older. Maybe Rondo doesn't resign with Dallas.

True. Dirk is old and so is Chandler. The only bad thing is Cuban will never let that damn team suck.

[KJandHondo35]

Here's the thing with Green, I'm not sure he's the type of guy that *wins* games. Even when putting up 30, easily can still be a loss. Maybe the best thing for him would just let him average 18 shots a night for the rest of the season, and use him if you have to on draft night to move up to Okafor or Towns. Just kind of as a safety net incase the Celtics are at like 5 and odd team out again.

Just a thought, if DA can get like an MKG? Heck yeah do the trade, but I'm not seeing it.

I don't think the Hornets would trade MKG for Green...we could get Stephonson im guessing,but do we really want to open that can of worms? I wonder if the Bulls would have any interest in Green. Would they put McBuckets on the table for him?

Well I was saying, lets just keep him for the season unless an MKG was on the table. The offseason and draft night are gonna get the best value. I don't think it's like a shoe in he Ops out, he'd probably make more as a FA in 2016. So, wouldn't just trade Green for the sake of trading Green. He's a top 10 SF but I've never seen him really move the needle in the W/L column (minus the Heat buzzer beater) so it's not like he would sabotage a tank effort.

[sully00]

So now instead of finding 3 stars to surround Rondo Danny needs to find 3 stars and a Rondo.

No that was the entire problem you don't need Rondo or a Rondo. That is why nobody really wanted him except for a team with 3 guys who can score 20 ppg. Year after year teams win NBA Championships with nothing that looks Rajon Rondo playing PG for them.

Ainge's problem is that right now this team is actually playing better ball without Rondo on the floor. This team's HC was sitting Rondo down at the end of games because he was kind of killing the offense. Sure you can gamble his play would get better but it had been over a calendar year since he returned from injury and two years since you saw a decent Rondo out there. The guy has been on the market for a while now and I am not sure Ainge has actually had a better offer than an unprotected first and 13 mil trade exception. It isn't going to be a good pick but you know what year your going to get it compared to the offers from DET and SAC.

Basically it is going to come down to what happens with Wright compared to McLemore and Brandon Knight who are both having pretty good years. That is it folks that is what has been on the table. Knight and what would now be a '16 1st from DET or McLemore, maybe Isiah Thomas, and what will now be at soonest a '17 from SAC.

I remember a team that won a championship and nearly two others with a PG the looks just like Rondo.

Celtics weren't getting Isaiah Thomas from Sac considering he plays for the Suns.

Those teams had 3 HOF's that would won that championship without Rondo and that was 7 years ago.

I am talking about what offers Ainge has gotten for Rondo that is what SAC offered at the deadline last season for Rondo and what DET offered for a still injured Rondo after we made the trade with Nets. That is it I haven't heard of any other legit trade offer Ainge was offered for Rondo except awful offers from HOU, LAL or NYK that had almost no value.

[bs_and_cs]

Wait, people are mad about that protection?

That is great news right there IMO.

If Dallas tanks the rest of the season here and misses the playoffs we got a lotto pick for Rondo. If not we get their pick next year which is a risk, but Dirk is 36 and pretty likely to decline, Chandler and Rondo are expiring, Monta Ellis with a ETO on his deal for next season. The Mavs may look a lot different next year.

[165bows]

I mean to say I told you so on Rondo's trade value, but I did.

So... lemme just say that if you think "winning" a trade is more important than how a trade fits into the bigger picture, you can probably just stop reading this now, and you won't grasp any of it anyways.

Bottom line is that we are better off now than we were 24 hours ago. If you disagree, it's probably because you were delusional about what Rondo's trade value would be, what his next contract will be and whether or not it was going to be us to pay him that contract.

Ange just made the best of a bad situation, and we will be in a better spot this summer as a result, with another draft pick, a higher lottery pick, more cap room and more possibilities than we were looking at without this deal.

Take it like men. It's what had to be done.

Unless this trade helps us win the lottery (it's a lottery and thus causation is impossible to prove even if that does happen) or unless Danny drafts the next Jimmy Butler with Dallas's late first rounder, I don't see how we're better off than we were 24 hours ago. Everything is still dependent on Danny's ability to make good moves going forward and this deal may have created one or two more options but we're still waiting on Danny to make something of all those options. I understand how having more options is better than have less options, but he needs to actually make something happen. Free agency is another area where now we have "more options" but likely nothing to show for all that when it comes right down to getting names on dotted lines.

Take this as a slight on Rondo's ability if you must, but I don't think his absence helps this team tank any harder than it has been. Might even hurt the tank. Need to move Green, Thornton, Bass if you want to really steer this thing downward and it's questionable whether Danny can even make those things happen IMO.

OK... but IMO we have a better lottery pick now, another 1st to deal, more cap room, a big TPE and a couple of extra role player assets to deal.

Who is going to play PG again?

Cap't Pressey lol.

[CelticsPride18]

Wait, people are mad about that protection?

That is great news right there IMO.

If Dallas tanks the rest of the season here and misses the playoffs we got a lotto pick for Rondo. If not we get their pick next year which is a risk, but Dirk is 36 and pretty likely to decline, Chandler and Rondo are expiring, Monta Ellis with a ETO on his deal for next season. The Mavs may look a lot different next year.

I doubt they resign Rondo, Chandler and Ellis.

[bs_and_cs]

With the Mavs loaded up to go for it this year, it actually makes it more likely we get a higher pick in 2016. Four 1st rounders in 2016.

Celtics
Nets (no protection)
Mavs (Top 7 protected)
Cavs (Top 10 Protected)

Dirk a year older. Maybe Rondo doesn't resign with Dallas.

True. Dirk is old and so is Chandler. The only bad thing is Cuban will never let that damn team suck.

See, we don't need them, or actually want them to suck if the pick is next year. Just be mediocre.

[bs_and_cs]

Honestly, best bet may be to hope the Mavs win it all this season.

Then hope Dirk retires, Monta and Rondo chase a huge paydays and Chandler signs elsewhere as a mercenary.

[greenroom31]

See, we don't need them, or actually want them to suck if the pick is next year. Just be mediocre.

They almost certainly won't suck but the West is so damn competitive that if they take even a small step back and lose Chandler or Ellis, or Dirk gets banged up maybe they miss the playoffs and we get a #10-#14 pick.

We still may end up trading the pick, but I'd imagine it has MORE value with the protection for this year, not less...

[BRUNiNHO91]

Dirk a year older. Maybe Rondo doesn't resign with Dallas.

True. Dirk is old and so is Chandler. The only bad thing is Cuban will never let that damn team suck.

See, we don't need them, or actually want them to suck if the pick is next year. Just be mediocre.

Let's just hope htey win the title this year and suck bad enough for an 8th pick the year after.

How cool would a Mavericks x Wizards finals be? Pierce vs Rondo.

[DarkAzcura]

See, we don't need them, or actually want them to suck if the pick is next year. Just be mediocre.

They almost certainly won't suck but the West is so damn competitive that if they take even a small step back and lose Chandler or Ellis, or Dirk gets banged up maybe they miss the playoffs and we get a #10-#14 pick.

We still may end up trading the pick, but I'd imagine it has MORE value with the protection for this year, not less...

To be fair, Dirk is getting to the point in his career where he might fall off like a tank in one of these offseasons. Obviously not something you can predict, but it is possible. At that point the Mavs will be relying on Rondo, Monta, and Parsons, which is honestly...not that great for the West. Essentially relying on a rich man's version of Green and Monta who is pretty good, but I dunno. Really depends on how strong the system is there because I'm not sure how great they'll be next season. This year, though? They should be pretty strong contenders if all goes well.