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Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston

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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#61 » by JLop » Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:49 pm

KingDavid wrote:Feel free to post wherever you please. Don't let me stop you...but you have a problem with posters insulting your trade ideas. I simply offered a solution to your problem.


Are you ok with insults?

KingDavid wrote:Not very many of us are well-versed in trades and transactions. I didn't check salaries, I didn't check contract years, I didn't check anything.


DefenseWins wrote: "Rondo is a complex dude, all these teams taking a gamble with offering picks cause he will probably not even re-sign with them." This is a simple answer that anybody can post. If you think that we have no assets, at least tell me why we have no assets. If you believe that Boston won't trade with Miami, let me know why, etc...

KingDavid wrote:But I do know that you hit a massive wall with the 2017 pick that we don't own this year at the very least; and will not own until Philadelphia uses it. If we finish better than bottom-10 this season, Philly gets our pick and we own/trade 2016 and 2017 1st rounders, iirc. But that can't happen until after the 2015 draft. You have to revise your trade. If/When you do, think carefully about the history between Riley & Ainge, even Riley & SVG. NBA is a business but personal matters play a heavy hand in decisions as well. How would trading with us benefit Detroit/Boston? Rio & Ennis are best used as fillers in a trade. You showcase someone like Deng, McRoberts, Wade, and Bosh (not implying that I want them to be traded). Not our scrubs. If you think we can get an allstar, championship level PG in Rondo for Mario Chalmers and James Ennis, you're dreaming.


Now, this sounds to me like a good answer.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#62 » by twix2500 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:06 pm

Trade talks have just opened up, and we should have all expected to start hearing rumors. But its likely nothing major will be pulled until All-Star time. Boston does not have to be in a hurry. They are going to suck before and after trading Rondo. Miami should be very aggressive in trading for Rondo, if they do not have what the Celtics want straight up, then find a third or even fourth party to make it work. People worry about Spacing with Wade and Rondo, well that spacing is why you bring in role players and its the same issue and problem we solved withe spacing of James and Wade tandem. If Spo wants to run fast pace small ball then Rondo is the point guard to do it.

Think how much will Williams and Ennis would flourish playing with Rondo (if we were able to keep em). There are a lot of positives in getting Rondo. If we can do it then do it.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#63 » by Noodle Arm » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:10 pm

Time to close this thread :lol:
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#65 » by DefenseWins » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:05 am

Lmao Mavs got a steal. Only Brandon wright would be on that team

They should have traded for Isaiah Thomas and Ben McLemore way back when. Now only Wright will be on that team next year. They only had to give up a 1st and 2nd as well.

Celtics in full rebuild and tank mode.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#66 » by JLop » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:09 am

twix2500 wrote:Trade talks have just opened up, and we should have all expected to start hearing rumors. But its likely nothing major will be pulled until All-Star time. Boston does not have to be in a hurry. They are going to suck before and after trading Rondo. Miami should be very aggressive in trading for Rondo, if they do not have what the Celtics want straight up, then find a third or even fourth party to make it work. People worry about Spacing with Wade and Rondo, well that spacing is why you bring in role players and its the same issue and problem we solved withe spacing of James and Wade tandem. If Spo wants to run fast pace small ball then Rondo is the point guard to do it.

Think how much will Williams and Ennis would flourish playing with Rondo (if we were able to keep em). There are a lot of positives in getting Rondo. If we can do it then do it.


"ESPN and Yahoo Sports report that the Dallas Mavericks and Boston Celtics have "agreed in principle" on a trade that will send point guard Rajon Rondo to the Mavericks in exchange for Brandan Wright, Jameer Nelson, Jae Crowder, a first-round pick and a second-round pick."

Full article:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24900339/reports-celtics-agree-to-terms-on-mavericks-trade-for-rajon-rondo

The Miami Heat have better assets to offer than this. I don't think that this organization is trying to improve the team. We are not in tank mode. We are not trading. Who else is available in the year 2015? Besides Marc Gasol, what other free agent would be available? The next two years are going to be very painful for this team.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#67 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:56 am

JLop wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Trade talks have just opened up, and we should have all expected to start hearing rumors. But its likely nothing major will be pulled until All-Star time. Boston does not have to be in a hurry. They are going to suck before and after trading Rondo. Miami should be very aggressive in trading for Rondo, if they do not have what the Celtics want straight up, then find a third or even fourth party to make it work. People worry about Spacing with Wade and Rondo, well that spacing is why you bring in role players and its the same issue and problem we solved withe spacing of James and Wade tandem. If Spo wants to run fast pace small ball then Rondo is the point guard to do it.

Think how much will Williams and Ennis would flourish playing with Rondo (if we were able to keep em). There are a lot of positives in getting Rondo. If we can do it then do it.


"ESPN and Yahoo Sports report that the Dallas Mavericks and Boston Celtics have "agreed in principle" on a trade that will send point guard Rajon Rondo to the Mavericks in exchange for Brandan Wright, Jameer Nelson, Jae Crowder, a first-round pick and a second-round pick."

Full article:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24900339/reports-celtics-agree-to-terms-on-mavericks-trade-for-rajon-rondo

The Miami Heat have better assets to offer than this. I don't think that this organization is trying to improve the team. We are not in tank mode. We are not trading. Who else is available in the year 2015? Besides Marc Gasol, what other free agent would be available? The next two years are going to be very painful for this team.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#68 » by twix2500 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:52 am

dam if thats all the y get, that is amazing for the Mavs.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#69 » by Prince Ali » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:54 am

Now that the Rondo ship is sailed let's see what new and exciting trade offers JFlop can cook up for us
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#70 » by Shewasfly » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:41 am

If the Mavs can get Rondo for that, how is Greg Monroe and some of the others mentioned in trade talks for Heat players so unfeasible? That is a terrible trade for Boston I think. But I guess it makes sense since Rondo was going to leave anyway and they just kinda wanted to get something for the future.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#71 » by gom » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:19 am

Shewasfly wrote:If the Mavs can get Rondo for that, how is Greg Monroe and some of the others mentioned in trade talks for Heat players so unfeasible? That is a terrible trade for Boston I think. But I guess it makes sense since Rondo was going to leave anyway and they just kinda wanted to get something for the future.


Exactly. The Rondo deal puts a bit of realism on the actual value of an expiring contract of a player you want to resign. Monroe is obtainable in the real world, but not in realGM world.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#72 » by KingDavid » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:22 pm

JLop wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Trade talks have just opened up, and we should have all expected to start hearing rumors. But its likely nothing major will be pulled until All-Star time. Boston does not have to be in a hurry. They are going to suck before and after trading Rondo. Miami should be very aggressive in trading for Rondo, if they do not have what the Celtics want straight up, then find a third or even fourth party to make it work. People worry about Spacing with Wade and Rondo, well that spacing is why you bring in role players and its the same issue and problem we solved withe spacing of James and Wade tandem. If Spo wants to run fast pace small ball then Rondo is the point guard to do it.

Think how much will Williams and Ennis would flourish playing with Rondo (if we were able to keep em). There are a lot of positives in getting Rondo. If we can do it then do it.


"ESPN and Yahoo Sports report that the Dallas Mavericks and Boston Celtics have "agreed in principle" on a trade that will send point guard Rajon Rondo to the Mavericks in exchange for Brandan Wright, Jameer Nelson, Jae Crowder, a first-round pick and a second-round pick."

Full article:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24900339/reports-celtics-agree-to-terms-on-mavericks-trade-for-rajon-rondo

The Miami Heat have better assets to offer than this. I don't think that this organization is trying to improve the team. We are not in tank mode. We are not trading. Who else is available in the year 2015? Besides Marc Gasol, what other free agent would be available? The next two years are going to be very painful for this team.

Who on our roster aside from Deng, Wade, and Bosh is as good as Brandan Wright or Jae Crowder or even Jameer Nelson?

Again, in principal, we have NO 1st round draft picks.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#73 » by KingDavid » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:26 pm

Shewasfly wrote:If the Mavs can get Rondo for that, how is Greg Monroe and some of the others mentioned in trade talks for Heat players so unfeasible? That is a terrible trade for Boston I think. But I guess it makes sense since Rondo was going to leave anyway and they just kinda wanted to get something for the future.

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Because we have no 1st round draft picks to trade until Philly uses ours this draft, assuming we're not 10-worst by season's end. Until the end of the season, in principal, we don't own our 2017 pick. (Top 10 protected in 2015, top 5 protected in 2016, unprotected in 2017) We have to look at the waiver wire.

A skilled center is worth significantly more because they're rare in the NBA. Rondo is just another skilled PG. There's a lot of those around. Hell, PHX has 3 of them.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#74 » by Shewasfly » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:46 pm

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Shewasfly wrote:If the Mavs can get Rondo for that, how is Greg Monroe and some of the others mentioned in trade talks for Heat players so unfeasible? That is a terrible trade for Boston I think. But I guess it makes sense since Rondo was going to leave anyway and they just kinda wanted to get something for the future.

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Because we have no 1st round draft picks to trade until Philly uses ours this draft, assuming we're not 10-worst by season's end. Until the end of the season, in principal, we don't own our 2017 pick. (Top 10 protected in 2015, top 5 protected in 2016, unprotected in 2017) We have to look at the waiver wire.

A skilled center is worth significantly more because they're rare in the NBA. Rondo is just another skilled PG. There's a lot of those around. Hell, PHX has 3 of them.


There are such a thing as multiple team trades. They aren't exactly rare either. Also the idea that trades can only happen when picks are involved in the first place is news to me but I'll let you tell it. I don't see this idea that you have to have exceptional talent in order to trade for a decent player back in reality, but you are free to define yours in whatever way you want. Meanwhile Corey Brewer was just traded for an injured Turiaf with a one dimensional player most people have never heard of. Oh and second round picks, the most prized possession of all :roll:

I mean I get it. Some of you are so desperate to tank I'm pretty sure if Riley does end up making a trade that improves this team now, you all will lose your minds for denying us the opportunity to get the next great draft pick that might be a valuable player on a championship team in 5 years. But some of us don't and won't feel that way, and with everything going on we fail to see how our viewpoint is bad and yours isn't.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#75 » by gom » Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:53 am

Shewasfly wrote:
KingDavid wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:If the Mavs can get Rondo for that, how is Greg Monroe and some of the others mentioned in trade talks for Heat players so unfeasible? That is a terrible trade for Boston I think. But I guess it makes sense since Rondo was going to leave anyway and they just kinda wanted to get something for the future.

:banghead:

Because we have no 1st round draft picks to trade until Philly uses ours this draft, assuming we're not 10-worst by season's end. Until the end of the season, in principal, we don't own our 2017 pick. (Top 10 protected in 2015, top 5 protected in 2016, unprotected in 2017) We have to look at the waiver wire.

A skilled center is worth significantly more because they're rare in the NBA. Rondo is just another skilled PG. There's a lot of those around. Hell, PHX has 3 of them.


There are such a thing as multiple team trades. They aren't exactly rare either. Also the idea that trades can only happen when picks are involved in the first place is news to me but I'll let you tell it. I don't see this idea that you have to have exceptional talent in order to trade for a decent player back in reality, but you are free to define yours in whatever way you want. Meanwhile Corey Brewer was just traded for an injured Turiaf with a one dimensional player most people have never heard of. Oh and second round picks, the most prized possession of all :roll:

I mean I get it. Some of you are so desperate to tank I'm pretty sure if Riley does end up making a trade that improves this team now, you all will lose your minds for denying us the opportunity to get the next great draft pick that might be a valuable player on a championship team in 5 years. But some of us don't and won't feel that way, and with everything going on we fail to see how our viewpoint is bad and yours isn't.


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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#76 » by KingDavid » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:24 am

Shewasfly wrote:
KingDavid wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:If the Mavs can get Rondo for that, how is Greg Monroe and some of the others mentioned in trade talks for Heat players so unfeasible? That is a terrible trade for Boston I think. But I guess it makes sense since Rondo was going to leave anyway and they just kinda wanted to get something for the future.

:banghead:

Because we have no 1st round draft picks to trade until Philly uses ours this draft, assuming we're not 10-worst by season's end. Until the end of the season, in principal, we don't own our 2017 pick. (Top 10 protected in 2015, top 5 protected in 2016, unprotected in 2017) We have to look at the waiver wire.

A skilled center is worth significantly more because they're rare in the NBA. Rondo is just another skilled PG. There's a lot of those around. Hell, PHX has 3 of them.


There are such a thing as multiple team trades. They aren't exactly rare either. Also the idea that trades can only happen when picks are involved in the first place is news to me but I'll let you tell it. I don't see this idea that you have to have exceptional talent in order to trade for a decent player back in reality, but you are free to define yours in whatever way you want. Meanwhile Corey Brewer was just traded for an injured Turiaf with a one dimensional player most people have never heard of. Oh and second round picks, the most prized possession of all :roll:

I mean I get it. Some of you are so desperate to tank I'm pretty sure if Riley does end up making a trade that improves this team now, you all will lose your minds for denying us the opportunity to get the next great draft pick that might be a valuable player on a championship team in 5 years. But some of us don't and won't feel that way, and with everything going on we fail to see how our viewpoint is bad and yours isn't.

I have no idea why you brought up Turiaf when I clearly stated a SKILLED center is worth more than a skilled PG. Telling me a fringe role player was traded for pennies is not what I was referring to. Monroe is damn near a walking double-double. Brewer is not Monroe.

Almost any quality trade has quality picks and/or quality players involved unless it's a salary dump. You want Rondo or someone of his caliber (champion, all-star, all-nba) on this team, you need assets. We don't have any right now. You and others can keep holding on to the Greg Monroe dream if you want. That's your prerogative. I know the history of SVG & Pat. It isn't likely. Now I know Monroe does not have Rondo's resume but he doesn't need to. Tall, long and a great offensive player. He's going to get near a max. No team is going to help us to their detriment (multi-team trade). So unless we trade one of; Wade, Bosh, Deng or McRoberts, which would be a foolish move IMO, we're dead in the trade waters.

No, you don't get it. For ****'s sake I'm not one of the posters that wants us to tank. I ride high and low with this team. So if we somehow make a splash in a trade, great. If not, great.
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Re: Rumor: Rajon Rondo wants out of Boston 

Post#77 » by xMADEinDADEx » Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:56 pm

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