Future draft classes

[EricAnderson]

Some hs scout from espn also said on Twitter said Vanderbilts a better player then Jackson..wow

[ManualRam]

vanderbilt as in jarred vanderbilt? nah, i've seen him play a little as he's one of the few '17s to play on the senior circuit in AAU. he's skilled and long, nice handle, footwork for a guy his height. scoring instincts inside the arc look promising but he's not as athletic or well-rounded as jackson. vanderbilt looks like a future dynamite scorer but he doesn't impact the game in a multitude of ways like jackson.
i haven't delved into that class too deeply but there are a few guys i know i'd already have ahead of jarred

[ManualRam]

https://twitter.com/reggierankin/status/546104431155363840

hmm. i can see that a little bit, but just a little. similar ability off the bounce, especially in the open court for bigs. webb was a great passer, giles is just a good passer. webber was strong on the interior and played bully ball with an unstoppable jump hook. giles is not as prolific with his back to the basket, but he's better in space with his better jumper. his jumper is pristine in form whereas it took until late in webber's career after multiple injuries for webber to develop his.

[EricAnderson]

vanderbilt as in jarred vanderbilt? nah, i've seen him play a little as he's one of the few '17s to play on the senior circuit in AAU. he's skilled and long, nice handle, footwork for a guy his height. scoring instincts inside the arc look promising but he's not as athletic or well-rounded as jackson. vanderbilt looks like a future dynamite scorer but he doesn't impact the game in a multitude of ways like jackson.
i haven't delved into that class too deeply but there are a few guys i know i'd already have ahead of jarred

Yeah I think ayton and brown are superior in his own class..I'd make a case for Porter as well

[B-Ball Freak]

Who does Josh Jackson remind you guys of if he reaches his full potential...T-Mac?

[EricAnderson]

People saying today that Aytons an amazing prospect

[EricAnderson]

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[Marcus]

People saying today that Aytons an amazing prospect

23 points 20 boards 4 steals 2 blocks

against Udoka Azubuike who stands 6'11" 270lbs compared to Ayton's 6'10" 225.

Udoka used those 45lbs to wear Ayton down in OT, he finished with 20 points 11 boards and 2 blocks

[Upperclass]

Who does Josh Jackson remind you guys of if he reaches his full potential...T-Mac?

Looks more like Tim Thomas to me. Seems very likely to reach his potential as opposed to Tim however.

[immortalone23]

Who does Josh Jackson remind you guys of if he reaches his full potential...T-Mac?

Looks more like Tim Thomas to me. Seems very likely to reach his potential as opposed to Tim however.

Wasn't Tim Thomas a big man?

[Marcus]

Who does Josh Jackson remind you guys of if he reaches his full potential...T-Mac?

Looks more like Tim Thomas to me. Seems very likely to reach his potential as opposed to Tim however.

where do you see Tim Thomas in Josh's game?

[Upperclass]

Who does Josh Jackson remind you guys of if he reaches his full potential...T-Mac?

Looks more like Tim Thomas to me. Seems very likely to reach his potential as opposed to Tim however.

where do you see Tim Thomas in Josh's game?

I'd old enough to have seen young Tim Thomas.. and his all-around game looks incredibly similar. The gait, the way he shoots and drives. I think Josh will naturally bulkup some, and end up a SF primarily. But I just dont see a T-Mac level of speed/quickness and agility. He could be another Paul George as well.

[ManualRam]

josh jackson is a SG. a 6'8 SG. he'll be able to defend AND beat SGs off the dribble. he's very quick, shifty and agile for a SG.
not seeing the tim thomas comparison at all.

[Marcus]

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saw Jamal Mashburn as a comparison for Jaylen Brown, what you think about that?

[Justwar]

Jaylen is much smaller

[sisibilio]

Josh Jackson is the best prospect in the world right now. In high school or college. I don't see anything changing that.

Dragan Bender.

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haven't seen enough of kiddo to make that kind of call but I KNOW Ayton is a beast.

switching topics: Derryck Thornton's jumper looks soaking wet this year. his pull up game and stop and go i crazy.

If we're talking european prospects the right answer is Luka Doncic, and it's not even close.

[Marcus]

Jaylen is much smaller

Yeah I meant more in terms of perimeter playing style.

[ManualRam]

saying jaylen is much smaller than mash doesn't really say anything and doesn't provide any insight. i mean you're comparing the body of a high school kid with the body of a guy with a few years of college S&C program under his belt at the very least. yeah, mash was bigger, wider, but jaylen has the frame to easily play around 240+ in the future without losing much athletically. unlike say, wiggins, brown has a naturally powerful build, with thicker legs and trunk. b/t mash and brown, i'd say jaylen looks to be the better vertical athlete, with better length, whereas mash was excellent at the leverage game, playing with a lower center of gravity, being powerful and more explosive in tighter spaces.

i don't remember much about mash in HS, so i couldn't provide much in terms of a same stage comparison, but i do remember mash in college. again, both have powerful builds that can easily play through contact at the rim. smooth, powerful handlers in the open floor who can change lanes comfortably and under control. i'd say jaylen's a better passer in the open floor. in fact i think that's the most underrated aspect of his game: his open court play-making. like most, if not all young prospects. jaylen is a much better open court player than half court player. his half court game isn't really definable. like, he doesn't really have sweet spots on the floor. doesn't have pet moves. he isn't particularly excellent at any one skill. whereas mash in college became an excellent 1 on 1 player and a bully in the post who used his powerful lower half to carve out and create space, could turn over either shoulder with fades, spin either direction while also having the ability to turn, jab and face up/blow by. mash also had tough to contest releases (at least inside the arc. outside he was more deliberate). he didn't elevate much, but he could fade and had that over the head, slightly off set release. jaylen's release is more conventional but easier to contest. eventually he'll have to raise it IMO. overall though, jaylen would have to make some major strides in his half court, 1 on 1 game in order to match what mash had become by the time he left college.

even as good as jaylen is now, he's still pretty much just project-able tools. much in the same vein as wiggins was/is, but he does have a few things going for him that wiggins did not as a HS senior: a strong build, better play-making instincts and a more aggressive demeanor.

[immortalone23]

Marvin Bagley or DeAndre Ayton?

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[Marcus]

Marvin Bagley or DeAndre Ayton?

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i gotta see more Bags, heard he killed it in his high school debut. Both have the "best bigman prospect in years" hype. But i like me some Ayton.