Pistons Waive Josh Smith

californiadude · Post #21 » by **californiadude** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:24 pm

It's gotta be Houston for Smith right??? Maybe the Mavs...anyway Texas teams make the most sense.

Post #22 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:24 pm

PMOTT3 wrote:SVG really dropped the ball in the off-season. He actually had the opportunity to trade smoove and turned it down! How mind boggling is that!

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As for whichever team ends up with him, i feel bad for them. The dude is just a cancer and I don't see sny scenario where he actually brings something to the table for a contender. Anyways, my gmoney is on Houston or Dallas. Both are contenders and him and Rondo/Dwight go way back.

Utterly bungled.

So, Pistons for this years Bucks award, awarded annually to the team through no planning or intentional achievement, manage to be worse than the Sixers.

Post #23 » by **MadNESS** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:25 pm

californiadude wrote:It's gotta be Houston for Smith right???

If he goes unclaimed I'm sure it's Houston or Dallas.

I think the Lakers or Bucks will put a bid in on him though.

Post #24 » by **loserX** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:30 pm

MadNESS wrote:
californiadude wrote:It's gotta be Houston for Smith right???

If he goes unclaimed I'm sure it's Houston or Dallas.

I think the Lakers or Bucks will put a bid in on him though.

This isn't an amnesty waiver, so there is no "bid" process as far as I know. The only way to "claim" him is to absorb his entire salary (and of course you need to have the capspace or exception space to do so).

Once he clears waivers, the Lakers can still use the DPE to offer him a contract as a free agent...or is that what you meant by "bid" in the first place? In that case, ignore this post

Post #25 » by **MadNESS** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:31 pm

loserX wrote:
MadNESS wrote:
californiadude wrote:It's gotta be Houston for Smith right???

If he goes unclaimed I'm sure it's Houston or Dallas.

I think the Lakers or Bucks will put a bid in on him though.

This isn't an amnesty waiver, so there is no "bid" process as far as I know. The only way to "claim" him is to absorb his entire salary (and of course you need to have the capspace or exception space to do so).

Once he clears waivers, the Lakers can still use the DPE to offer him a contract as a free agent...or is that what you meant by "bid" in the first place? In that case, ignore this post

I guess I meant offer him a contract.

Lakers have a huge DPE and the Bucks have he most cap space.

MrAmazing · Post #26 » by **MrAmazing** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:34 pm

Would Denver Nuggets bid on him? They could really use a guy with his skills.

machu46 · Post #27 » by **machu46** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:34 pm

MadNESS wrote:Calling it now, he's going to Milwaukee.

You shut your mouth right now! I will cry.

Post #28 » by **bondom34** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:35 pm

Whoa

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Post #29 » by **Hawk Eye** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:35 pm

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Laimbeer · Post #30 » by **Laimbeer** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:36 pm

So how does the stretch work exactly. He's due 13.5 a year for this year and the next two seasons. What will the cap hit be by season?

becorz · Post #31 » by **becorz** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:41 pm

Dimitraa wrote:Theres your guy Vivek. Go for it.

I honestly see no way he ends up with the Kings. They only have the minimum to offer and I see playoff teams giving him a shot (I bet he ends up in Dallas). Why would he go to the Kings where he has PF competition when he could go to a playoff team?

cucad8 · Post #32 » by **cucad8** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:43 pm

Laimbeer wrote:So how does the stretch work exactly. He's due 13.5 a year for this year and the next two seasons. What will the cap hit be by season?

Stretch makes it so his salary counts as double the years plus 1. So with 2 years remaining on his deal, his remaining salary is stretched over 5 years. Counting about 5.4 against the cap for the next 5 years.

As for claims, this isn't the amnesty provision where teams bid on him. Either you claim him off waivers and pay his full salary, or he becomes a free agent. Lakers and Milwaukee can't "bid" on him. They'd have to sign him as a free agent.

Golabki · Post #33 » by **Golabki** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:43 pm

MadNESS wrote:
californiadude wrote:It's gotta be Houston for Smith right???

If he goes unclaimed I'm sure it's Houston or Dallas.

I think the Lakers or Bucks will put a bid in on him though.

What are the rules here?

To claim him you would have to pick up the whole contract, right?

tiderulz · Post #34 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:43 pm

MadNESS wrote:
loserX wrote:
MadNESS wrote:If he goes unclaimed I'm sure it's Houston or Dallas.

I think the Lakers or Bucks will put a bid in on him though.

This isn't an amnesty waiver, so there is no "bid" process as far as I know. The only way to "claim" him is to absorb his entire salary (and of course you need to have the capspace or exception space to do so).

Once he clears waivers, the Lakers can still use the DPE to offer him a contract as a free agent...or is that what you meant by "bid" in the first place? In that case, ignore this post

I guess I meant offer him a contract.

Lakers have a huge DPE and the Bucks have he most cap space.

his contract is there, $26mil over the next 2 years after this. They dont get to offer him a newer, less contract.

avon barksdale · Post #35 » by **avon barksdale** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:45 pm

Make it happen donnie where's that mark Cuban clapping gif when u need it

Post #36 » by **Morris_Shatford** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:46 pm

SVG over the last six months has basically lost Monroe and will be stuck paying Smith for five years to play for another team?

Dimitraa · Post #37 » by **Dimitraa** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:50 pm

MadNESS wrote:
loserX wrote:
MadNESS wrote:
If he goes unclaimed I'm sure it's Houston or Dallas.

I think the Lakers or Bucks will put a bid in on him though.

This isn't an amnesty waiver, so there is no "bid" process as far as I know. The only way to "claim" him is to absorb his entire salary (and of course you need to have the capspace or exception space to do so).

Once he clears waivers, the Lakers can still use the DPE to offer him a contract as a free agent...or is that what you meant by "bid" in the first place? In that case, ignore this post

I guess I meant offer him a contract.

Lakers have a huge DPE and the Bucks have he most cap space.

The Bucks will NOT go after him. We already have put Ersan on the block we will not sign John freaking Smith. Lakers can have him we are trying to rebuild not self destruct.

Post #38 » by **loserX** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:51 pm

yenrallik11 wrote:ok now I need some clarification. as far I understood when a player gets waved other teams have the 48 hours to bid on him/claim him. with josh, if a team was to bid say 3.5 million and win then they pay that per year until the end of his contract while the pistons would still have to pay the remaining 10 mill/year. I guess I may need a wavers re-education

The "bid" process only applies to players waived under the amnesty provision (and that provision is only available for a couple of weeks in the offseason, no team can use it now even if they still have it available; you only get to use it once and only on players who meet certain conditions). Smith isn't being waived under that provision so there is no bid process.

You can either claim him by absorbing his entire salary (I'm pretty sure only Philly can, and nobody will), or let him clear waivers and then offer him a contract just like any other free agent using your capspace or exceptions (if you have any).

tiderulz · Post #39 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:51 pm

yenrallik11 wrote:
ok now I need some clarification. as far I understood when a player gets waved other teams have the 48 hours to bid on him/claim him. with josh, if a team was to bid say 3.5 million and win then they pay that per year until the end of his contract while the pistons would still have to pay the remaining 10 mill/year. I guess I may need a wavers re-education

that was for the amnesty. For a plain waive, you pick up his existing contract to the end

Dimitraa · Post #40 » by **Dimitraa** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:52 pm

yenrallik11 wrote:
MadNESS wrote:
loserX wrote:
This isn't an amnesty waiver, so there is no "bid" process as far as I know. The only way to "claim" him is to absorb his entire salary (and of course you need to have the capspace or exception space to do so).

Once he clears waivers, the Lakers can still use the DPE to offer him a contract as a free agent...or is that what you meant by "bid" in the first place? In that case, ignore this post

I guess I meant offer him a contract.

Lakers have a huge DPE and the Bucks have he most cap space.

ok now I need some clarification. as far I understood when a player gets waved other teams have the 48 hours to bid on him/claim him. with josh, if a team was to bid say 3.5 million and win then they pay that per year until the end of his contract while the pistons would still have to pay the remaining 10 mill/year. I guess I may need a wavers re-education

IF you claim him off waivers you pay him all and Pistons pay him nothing. What they meant in bid is that these teams could offer him the best contract.Which Bucks will NOT let me repeat it again.