Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 4

[closg00]

The Heat board is excited about Whiteside, he is exactly the kind of lengthy, young defender the Wizards should be keeping an eye-open for. If the Wiz had released Blair and scooped-up Whiteside on-the-cheap that would have been sweet. Whiteside isn't great, but he still has upside. HW foolishly declared early for the draft, but he is finally growing up.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Nice.

DAL going all in for Dirk by landing Rondo

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ondo-Trade

The Mavericks would send Brandan Wright, Jae Crowder, Jameer Nelson, one future first round pick and a future second round pick to the Celtics for Rondo and Dwight Powell.

"The deal is on course to happen tonight," said one source.

A good deal for the Mavs. For the Celtics it seems to continue their acquisition of good, but not star-level players.

Jae Crowder is a quintessential Brad Stevens player though. Under Stevens Boston is looking at a model like Toronto or perhaps the Spurs: no dominant mismatch player (anymore in the case of Tim Duncan) but a complete team 1-15 with all five players on the floor at any point able to defend, pass, make open shots, rebound etc. It's an interesting counter to the 2 superstar model, or the superteam model. Teams like ours have a similar depth, but rely on one superstar to make the thing work. IF you stop John Wall then we suffer. Big if, but still it's a vulnerability.

Boston is going to be above .500 and will be a tough playoff team.

Right now they are 10-14. Their roster is full of improving young players.

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[fishercob]

Josh Smith WAIVED by the Pistons. They owe him $13M/yr for teh next two years after this one. I wonder if they use the stretch provision.

He's free to sign with anyone one he clears waivers. Incredible potential value, but OTOH you have to wonder what precipitated this beyond him playing poorly.

[tontoz]

Josh Smith WAIVED by the Pistons. They owe him $13M/yr for teh next two years after this one. I wonder if they use the stretch provision.

He's free to sign with anyone one he clears waivers. Incredible potential value, but OTOH you have to wonder what precipitated this beyond him playing poorly.

The idiots who run the Kings wanted to trade for him.

I don't recall anyone owed this much money getting straight out waived. Such an epic fail of a signing.

[fishercob]

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[Nivek]

Never understood why the Pistons tried to make him into a SF. Bigs typically don't play big minutes anyway. With Smith, they seemed (to me anyway) to have a workable 3-man PF/C rotation with Drummond as the "pure" C, Smith as the "pure" PF, and Monroe as the PF/C with each guy playing ~30-32 a night. Instead, they start all three and create multiple weaknesses because Smith wasn't a SF, and they then had little depth at the PF/C spots. Weird decision-making from the front office and the coaches.

[TGW]

Honestly think it's a no brainer to get him. He's a bad teammate and a terrible shooter, but defensively he would help a ton. Tell him not to shoot outside of 16 feet, rebound, and block shots. He'll get a ton of alley oops from Wall.

[mhd]

I think Smith makes a TON of sense for Dallas (obviously), but on any of the contenders. Imagine him on the Spurs, or OKC, etc.

I'd take him here (EG tried to trade for him), but I think he'll go to Cleveland, or one of the Western conference teams.

[fishercob]

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[Dark Faze]

Honestly think it's a no brainer to get him. He's a bad teammate and a terrible shooter, but defensively he would help a ton. Tell him not to shoot outside of 16 feet, rebound, and block shots. He'll get a ton of alley oops from Wall.

I'm sure the Pistons never thought of this

He's got to gain weight to play the 4 again before becomes useful to anyone I think.

[Nivek]

Only way I'd take Smith is with the proviso that he'd be immediately released if he attempts a shot from outside 3 feet or from inside 3pt range. Not even a desperation 16-footer with the shot clock expiring.

And when I say "immediately," I mean during the game. As in, Smith pulls up and shoots one of his patented 20-foot Js, and Wittman calls timeout to replace him in the lineup and release him on the spot. As in, "Josh, go get cleaned up. We'd like you gone before the end of the game."

[fishercob]

I think Smith makes a TON of sense for Dallas (obviously), but on any of the contenders. Imagine him on the Spurs, or OKC, etc.

I'd take him here (EG tried to trade for him), but I think he'll go to Cleveland, or one of the Western conference teams.

Dallas would seem to make great sense, and apparently he's tight with Rondo. There's also some concern around that, given both guys have been considered mercurial or malcontents at times in their careers.

If Smith does sign with Dallas, I'd investigate the Mavs and Pistons for tampering -- just from a due diligence standpoint. It would be a little too convenient for my liking that Dallas traded important frontcourt depth to get Rondo and then had Smith fall in their laps.

Houston makes sense. The Clippers make sense -- their bench bigs are awful. Atlanta could make sense. Phoenix. Portland.

[jangles86]

Would love to see smith coming off the bench instead of Hump.

[Dat2U]

If he's available for the minimum, he's probably worth at least kicking the tires on.

[tontoz]

Would love to see smith coming off the bench instead of Hump.

No you wouldn't. We need help on offense and Smith is a train wreck on offense. He is taking 14 shots per game with a TS of 41.7%.

[jangles86]

Would love to see smith coming off the bench instead of Hump.

No you wouldn't. We need help on offense and Smith is a train wreck on offense. He is taking 14 shots per game with a TS of 41.7%.

In a better situation on a better team he'd be more efficient and also is a beast defender. Also is only 29.

[miller31time]

Only way I'd take Smith is with the proviso that he'd be immediately released if he attempts a shot from outside 3 feet or from inside 3pt range. Not even a desperation 16-footer with the shot clock expiring.

And when I say "immediately," I mean during the game. As in, Smith pulls up and shoots one of his patented 20-foot Js, and Wittman calls timeout to replace him in the lineup and release him on the spot. As in, "Josh, go get cleaned up. We'd like you gone before the end of the game."

Of all the coaches in the NBA, I think the one least likely to reprimand a player for taking mid-range jump shots and long-2s is Randy Wittman.

The phrase "if you're open, it's a good shot" is ringing in my ears as we speak.

[tontoz]

Would love to see smith coming off the bench instead of Hump.

No you wouldn't. We need help on offense and Smith is a train wreck on offense. He is taking 14 shots per game with a TS of 41.7%.

In a better situation on a better team he'd be more efficient and also is a beast defender. Also is only 29.

That is what they said in Atlanta. I used to live there and follow the Hawks.

Imagine him getting a defensive rebound and trying to lead the break himself, ignoring Wall running right beside him. Then throwing a pass at the last second that goes out of bounds. That is the reality of Smith. He isn't going to change.

[Dark Faze]

Only way I'd take Smith is with the proviso that he'd be immediately released if he attempts a shot from outside 3 feet or from inside 3pt range. Not even a desperation 16-footer with the shot clock expiring.

And when I say "immediately," I mean during the game. As in, Smith pulls up and shoots one of his patented 20-foot Js, and Wittman calls timeout to replace him in the lineup and release him on the spot. As in, "Josh, go get cleaned up. We'd like you gone before the end of the game."

pretty much

houston is a good fit, funny thing is a lot of their guys are shooting like complete ass and still somehow doing really well in the west, so josh fits right in

[fishercob]

Only way I'd take Smith is with the proviso that he'd be immediately released if he attempts a shot from outside 3 feet or from inside 3pt range. Not even a desperation 16-footer with the shot clock expiring.

And when I say "immediately," I mean during the game. As in, Smith pulls up and shoots one of his patented 20-foot Js, and Wittman calls timeout to replace him in the lineup and release him on the spot. As in, "Josh, go get cleaned up. We'd like you gone before the end of the game."

pretty much

houston is a good fit, funny thing is a lot of their guys are shooting like complete ass and still somehow doing really well in the west, so josh fits right in

Houston with Smith would be a better version of the Iverson Sixers. They're already second in the league in D. Add Smith to a lineup with Howard, Ariza, Harden, and Beverly and they will be really hard to score on.