Trade Ideas Thread

[brackdan70]

Cleveland has 5.3 Million TPE still right?, a possible landing spot for Wright?...seems like they could use him. They have a protected first rounder from memphis they could trade...the way the protection is it would be a few years away.

[SMTBSI]

Altanta is the 2nd seed in the east, percentage points behind Toronto. There's no sense in being conservative for them - who knows if they'll ever get a better shot at the finals, with the east as weak as it is.

ATL has the right to swap their 2015 1st with Brooklyn. BK is currently in position for the #15 pick (but if they fall out of the playoffs it improves to around #10 or #11). We have the LAC 2015 1st, currently projected at #22.

What would ATL want to do an exchange? (~7 position difference in worst case, ~12 in best.)

Would they have any interest in Wright? Is that a feasible conversation starter, or does one side or the other laugh and hang up?


The idea for us is obviously to hope to get something like #8 and #10, then try to trade up. I don't really know what their needs are, though.

[Andrew McCeltic]

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/12/22/7433597/nba-trade-idea-phoenix-suns-boston-celtics-thomas-plumlee-bradley-wright

Suns trade Miles Plumlee, Anthony Tolliver and Isaiah Thomas to Celtics for Avery Bradley and Brandon Wright

I'd take that.... Thomas >> Bradley, and it will be difficult to hang onto Wright...

You can probably do Wright for Thomas straight up, no need to overpay..


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[Waider]

Cavs have supposedly offered Dion Waiters for Kosta Koufos.. How about Wright and the return of their 1st?


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I think this benefits both teams. Waiters is not very popular on any board but he is definitely a buy low type with huge upside if it works. Smart, Bradley, Young with Waiters would be 4 young guards to build with or keep 3 & move 1 for another piece next season after you see what they all offer. But Waiters scoring next to either Smart or Bradley would be a great combo/balance, imo. If it doesn't work out as hoped with Waiters I can see Ainge finding a way to turn him into an asset....if he can get people something for Jordan Crawford I would back him to do likewise here.

[Gomes3PC]

Cavs have supposedly offered Dion Waiters for Kosta Koufos.. How about Wright and the return of their 1st?


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I think this benefits both teams. Waiters is not very popular on any board but he is definitely a buy low type with huge upside if it works. Smart, Bradley, Young with Waiters would be 4 young guards to build with or keep 3 & move 1 for another piece next season after you see what they all offer. But Waiters scoring next to either Smart or Bradley would be a great combo/balance, imo. If it doesn't work out as hoped with Waiters I can see Ainge finding a way to turn him into an asset....if he can get people something for Jordan Crawford I would back him to do likewise here.

Dear god no, please do not trade both a valuable asset in Wright AND a 1st round pick for a guy who is a clear locker room cancer and would be a terrible fit next to Smart. Not to mention the fact that we already have significant picks and dollars invested at SG between Young and Bradley.

Waiters sucks. He's just a bad basketball player. Career PER of 13.6 and 11.8 this year. Career 42% FG shooter and 34% from 3. **** A/TO ratio. Oh, and he is an awful defender - career dRTG of 110 and is allowing an opponent PER of almost 20 right now. His +/- numbers are comical - -2.0 net points per 100 possessions when on the court, +12.0 when off the court.

We all talk about Green and Bradley being hollow stats guys but Waiters is a legitimately awful player. There's nothing indicating this guy does anything to help his team win, on or off the court.

[KGboss]

Waiters is a headcase. If he cant pull his **** together on a team with Lebron, Love, and Irving then I want no part of him. Let him chuck shots in China for all I care.

[CelticFaninLBC]

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/12/22/7433597/nba-trade-idea-phoenix-suns-boston-celtics-thomas-plumlee-bradley-wright
Suns trade Miles Plumlee, Anthony Tolliver and Isaiah Thomas to Celtics for Avery Bradley and Brandon Wright

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Doubt that. Wright's a good player, but he's possibly a 1/2 year rental too...

[rmal8852]

Cleveland has 5.3 Million TPE still right?, a possible landing spot for Wright?...seems like they could use him. They have a protected first rounder from memphis they could trade...the way the protection is it would be a few years away.

Wright is way more valuable than a conditional pick light years away.

And why would anyone want to help those POS Cavs. They've had more luck inthe last four years than the Cs have had for the last 30 (almost).

F them.

[theman]

Cleveland has 5.3 Million TPE still right?, a possible landing spot for Wright?...seems like they could use him. They have a protected first rounder from memphis they could trade...the way the protection is it would be a few years away.

Wright is way more valuable than a conditional pick light years away.

And why would anyone want to help those POS Cavs. They've had more luck in the last four years than the Cs have had for the last 30 (almost).

F them.

No he is not. He was playing about 15 minutes a night for Dallas. I doubt Boston can get a first for any of the Dallas players.

I say Jameer Nelson to the Knicks for Jason Smith. Smith is useless but expires this summer vs. Nelson's additional year.

[brackdan70]

Cleveland has 5.3 Million TPE still right?, a possible landing spot for Wright?...seems like they could use him. They have a protected first rounder from memphis they could trade...the way the protection is it would be a few years away.

Wright is way more valuable than a conditional pick light years away.

And why would anyone want to help those POS Cavs. They've had more luck inthe last four years than the Cs have had for the last 30 (almost).

F them.

Thanks for the thoughtful and logical response.
how do you figure he has more value than that. I was posing the question mainly because I thought that could be asking too much.

[rmal8852]

Cleveland has 5.3 Million TPE still right?, a possible landing spot for Wright?...seems like they could use him. They have a protected first rounder from memphis they could trade...the way the protection is it would be a few years away.

Wright is way more valuable than a conditional pick light years away.

And why would anyone want to help those POS Cavs. They've had more luck inthe last four years than the Cs have had for the last 30 (almost).

F them.

Thanks for the thoughtful and logical response.
how do you figure he has more value than that. I was posing the question mainly because I thought that could be asking too much.

My first paragraph was logical. The second paragraph reflects my strong dislike for Cleveland and Le Broid.

Cleveland would jump at that trade now. Verajao is now injured. Usually when a team jumps at something, it means that the trade favors that side far more than the other.

Caves give up some nebulously valued pick for immediate, desperately needed front court help? They jump immediately at that. We can use Wright far better than that either for ourselves or as part of
A bigger deal.

Bright Side of the Sun, the Suns SBNation board has a feature article proposing a roster balancing trade for both sides: IThomas, Plumlee and Tolliver(for $$$ matching purposes) for Bradley and Wright.

Here is what they say:

This trade a nearly neutral swap of contracts and positions, but the net result is that both teams get just a little bit more of what they really need.

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/ ... ley-wright

Good read.

Regarding my dislike for the Cavs: their luck in the lottery the last four years has been disgusting to me. Their luck got Self-proclaimed king James to come back (he would never have come back if they weren't so positioned) and let them steal Love from us which precipitated Rondo leaving.

I hate the Cavs and James, logically.

No disrespect intended. Apologies if that's how it came across.

[mg]

Cleveland has 5.3 Million TPE still right?, a possible landing spot for Wright?...seems like they could use him. They have a protected first rounder from memphis they could trade...the way the protection is it would be a few years away.

Wright is way more valuable than a conditional pick light years away.

And why would anyone want to help those POS Cavs. They've had more luck inthe last four years than the Cs have had for the last 30 (almost).

F them.

Thanks for the thoughtful and logical response.
how do you figure he has more value than that. I was posing the question mainly because I thought that could be asking too much.

The Memphis pick that Cleveland owns is basically reverse lottery protected. There's no way they see it next summer but if could be very valuable if something unforeseen happens such as Gasol walking in FA next summer. That pick along with the Pelicans pick that Houston owns could be 2 of the more valuable trade assets at the trade deadline.

[rmal8852]

The Memphis pick that Cleveland owns is basically reverse lottery protected. There's no way they see it next summer but if could be very valuable if something unforeseen happens such as Gasol walking in FA next summer. That pick along with the Pelicans pick that Houston owns could be 2 of the more valuable trade assets at the trade deadline.

That Pels pick I would definitely take, but not sure Houston gives that for Wright. The Memphis pick is far more uncertain and I think Wright is more highly valued than that.

[FlatearthZorro]

Jazz could be an interesting trading partner. They got Favors locked up for years. They got Gobert on rookie deal and Kanter is soon to be up for an extension too.... I would love to get Kanter, what do u guys think? He rebounds well, plays good D, plays well around the basket not the flashiest athlete, but a pretty good talent/player, imo....

We are in a weird position tho, cause we'd probably have to give up 1 of Sully/Kelly, and I'm not even sure, if the FO knows which 1 they like more, cause of Kelly's recent surge.

[FlatearthZorro]

Also an interesting move that makes sense for both teams: Bradley/Wright for Plumlee/Thomas(via some unofficial suns site)..


Would do it in a heartbeat, since we need a real PG. Would love getting rid of Bradley.

[BleedGreen1989]

I really want to flip Wright but I would rather get an actual player this time around.

[brackdan70]

The Memphis pick that Cleveland owns is basically reverse lottery protected. There's no way they see it next summer but if could be very valuable if something unforeseen happens such as Gasol walking in FA next summer. That pick along with the Pelicans pick that Houston owns could be 2 of the more valuable trade assets at the trade deadline.

That Pels pick I would definitely take, but not sure Houston gives that for Wright. The Memphis pick is far more uncertain and I think Wright is more highly valued than that.

The Memphis Pick remains a first rounder....it just may be a couple years down the road because Memphis is good right now.

I think that is a good haul for Wright...and probably more than we can get realistically. Sure there is uncertainty, but it will be a first rounder and the way the protection is...it could be just as good as the Pelicans pick if there is a mishap for Memphis in the next few years.

[brackdan70]

Also an interesting move that makes sense for both teams: Bradley/Wright for Plumlee/Thomas(via some unofficial suns site)..


Would do it in a heartbeat, since we need a real PG. Would love getting rid of Bradley.

I'd do that in a heart beat as well....but is that really on the table? seems pretty unrealistic to me.

[Slartibartfast]

I really want to flip Wright but I would rather get an actual player this time around.

We have too many actual players though.

This 12-man rotation and the chaos it's creating has got to stop.

We badly need a 2 or 3 for 1 trade.

[laploutocratie]

Am I wrong for wanting to flip Sullinger while his value is still high? I'm just not comfortable eventually paying an undersized, unmotivated big with a history of injury issues. I actually want to keep Wright, Zeller, KO.