ImageImageImage

Tolliver traded to Detroit

Moderators: bwgood77, Qwigglez, lilfishi22

jcsunsfan
Head Coach
Posts: 6,477
And1: 4,829
Joined: Dec 20, 2006
     

Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#1 » by jcsunsfan » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:53 pm

Son of Ra
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,289
And1: 1,080
Joined: Jun 27, 2013
 

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#2 » by Son of Ra » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:12 pm

Is it Christmas?
User avatar
Miklo
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 7,674
And1: 278
Joined: Jan 23, 2005
Location: North Carolina
     

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#3 » by Miklo » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:12 pm

Has anyone watched Tony Mitchell? I remember hearing the name around 2013 draft day, but I know next to nothing about him.
Revived
RealGM
Posts: 37,374
And1: 22,192
Joined: Feb 17, 2011

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#4 » by Revived » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:17 pm

Seems like a $$ saving move...bigger trade on the horizon?

Eric Bledsoe just became eligible to be traded today.
User avatar
Qwigglez
Forum Mod - Suns
Forum Mod - Suns
Posts: 21,552
And1: 14,845
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
Contact:
     

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#5 » by Qwigglez » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:25 pm

Power shift!

But seriously... I wonder about this trade. What does McDee have up his sleeve?
LV-Suns
Analyst
Posts: 3,492
And1: 2,099
Joined: Aug 11, 2009
Location: Las Vegas
   

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#6 » by LV-Suns » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:27 pm

I see another trade coming. Tony Mitchell is getting waived to clear a roster spot.
I Dont wanna be here
User avatar
Calvin Klein
RealGM
Posts: 15,453
And1: 10,282
Joined: May 20, 2008
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Contact:
   

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#7 » by Calvin Klein » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:33 pm

Something's up defintely. Weird, as we might have just played our best two games of the season.
User avatar
bigfoot
Suns Forum Anti-Tank Commander
Posts: 9,838
And1: 6,484
Joined: Sep 16, 2010
 

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#8 » by bigfoot » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:46 pm

Suns just gonna waive him according to reports.
User avatar
bigfoot
Suns Forum Anti-Tank Commander
Posts: 9,838
And1: 6,484
Joined: Sep 16, 2010
 

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#9 » by bigfoot » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:49 pm

Per Coro

Anthony Tolliver is a nice man whose basketball will not be remembered in the Valley unless his departure turns into something more.

The Suns traded Tolliver to Detroit on Wednesday after 24 ho-hum appearances in order to increase their cap space and have an empty roster spot for potential stars who go on the trade block.

The Suns acquired Tony Mitchell in the trade but will waive him, bumping their cap space to more than $6.1 million and putting them one below the 15-man roster maximum.

"The thought process is to try to put ourselves in the mix to add a big player via trade," Suns General Manager Ryan McDonough said, referring to stature not size. "We want to be aggressive and active. We want to solidify ourselves as a playoff team. The flexibility would allow us more wiggle room to make a trade."

The Suns will be in position to trade a draft pick and absorb a player's contract or deal for one more player than they send out.

The Suns (16-14) are in eighth place in the West after a four-game win streak with Tolliver not playing.

The Suns are open to trades but not just for short-term gain.

"We'll stay consistent with our approach and philosophy," McDonough said. "We have a good core of guys in their early 20s and mid-20s and they have us in the playoff hunt. It'd be something in that range that could help us this year and then grow with us."

The Christmas Eve timing was unavoidable because the Pistons' interest in Tolliver came Monday after waiving Josh Smith.

The Suns signed Tolliver to a two-year, $6 million contract in July with $3 million for each year, although only $400,000 is guaranteed for next season. His long-range shooting was targeted to help replace the spread power forward role of Channing Frye, who left for Orlando in free agency.

Tolliver could not stick in the rotation, often playing briefly in one half when he was in the mix and falling out of the rotation for the past four games.

Tolliver averaged 3.3 points and 1.8 rebounds in 11.3 minutes per game. He made 39 percent of his 3-pointers but only shot 35 percent overall. He had consecutive three-for-five 3-point shooting games in losses this month to the Clippers and Heat but was two for eight on 3s over the next three games. Coach Jeff Hornacek then tightened his rotation to nine players and used Marcus Morris and P.J. Tucker as backup power forwards for a more consistent style.

"He was a great guy and a consummate professiona,l but it was a bit of a tough spot because Markieff Morris has been our most consistent player," McDonough said. "They are very different players."

Detroit will be Tolliver's eighth NBA team in seven seasons. Mitchell had an $818,482 salary this season to create the payroll decrease for the Suns.

On Tuesday night, Tolliver hosted four families with tickets to the Suns-Mavericks game, dinner and personally gave them presents after the game.
User avatar
RaisingArizona
RealGM
Posts: 15,787
And1: 7,669
Joined: Apr 23, 2009
 

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#10 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:03 pm

A true Christmas miracle!
Image
User avatar
TASTIC
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,410
And1: 2,425
Joined: May 17, 2004
Location: New Zealand
   

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#11 » by TASTIC » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:06 pm

I don't mind Mitchell, has insane athleticism and some defensive potential, but sounds like we've got an eye on a big prize which is great to see!
Jdiddy701
RealGM
Posts: 10,145
And1: 6,555
Joined: Jun 05, 2006

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#12 » by Jdiddy701 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:13 pm

I just hope the Suns aren't dumb enough to trade Bledsoe. I would be so pissed.
User avatar
Qwigglez
Forum Mod - Suns
Forum Mod - Suns
Posts: 21,552
And1: 14,845
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
Contact:
     

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#13 » by Qwigglez » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:17 pm

TASTIC wrote:I don't mind Mitchell, has insane athleticism and some defensive potential, but sounds like we've got an eye on a big prize which is great to see!


Mitchell getting waived as per Coro. Once he's waived Suns will have 6.1mil in salary cap space.
User avatar
Maystack
Senior
Posts: 510
And1: 184
Joined: Jun 20, 2013
Location: Jolly old England

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#14 » by Maystack » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:25 pm

More minutes for Warren now hopefully.
JDLAW
Suns Forum CBA and Legal Expert
Posts: 2,509
And1: 1,301
Joined: May 08, 2012

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#15 » by JDLAW » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:30 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:I just hope the Suns aren't dumb enough to trade Bledsoe. I would be so pissed.



Nothing to worry about here. They are not trading Bledsoe, Dragic, Len or the Morris Twins.
Revived
RealGM
Posts: 37,374
And1: 22,192
Joined: Feb 17, 2011

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#16 » by Revived » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:34 pm

Maystack wrote:More minutes for Warren now hopefully.

Tolliver wasn't in the rotation anymore so no.
WeekapaugGroove
RealGM
Posts: 24,538
And1: 20,241
Joined: Feb 07, 2010

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#17 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:40 pm

yeah this was a punt on the Tolliver deal. He never looked comfortable in our O and honestly i got annoyed every time he was on the floor. Would much rather have warren or even marcus morris getting his backup 4 mins.

Edit- yes he fell out of the rotation so maybe no one gets his mins but at least we now know Len doesn't lose mins when we go small a bunch. Len's been the real bright spot of the season so far and deserves is 25-30 mins a game every game. The guy does have talent.
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride!-H.S.T.
Blackification
Head Coach
Posts: 6,473
And1: 2,229
Joined: Feb 13, 2009

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#18 » by Blackification » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:54 pm

Maybe we opened a pot up for jermaine oneal? I think he can bring a lot to this team even if its just off the court
User avatar
Maystack
Senior
Posts: 510
And1: 184
Joined: Jun 20, 2013
Location: Jolly old England

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#19 » by Maystack » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:55 pm

SF88 wrote:
Maystack wrote:More minutes for Warren now hopefully.

Tolliver wasn't in the rotation anymore so no.

Only for the past couple of games, probably because Jeff knew he was getting traded.
Jdiddy701
RealGM
Posts: 10,145
And1: 6,555
Joined: Jun 05, 2006

Re: Tolliver traded to Detroit 

Post#20 » by Jdiddy701 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:00 pm

I think the Suns traded Antony Tolliver out of respect. Good for him. Wish him the best in Detroit.

Return to Phoenix Suns