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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#181 » by minimus » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:58 am

Klomp wrote:Wiggins needs to continue to take smart shots. If he's "shooting a ton" and just starts chucking, he'll become the next Corey Brewer. Good role player, but that's it.


I think he is already better than Brewer, with bad shot selection he will be smaller version of Rudy Gay.
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Post#182 » by Killboard » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:24 am

I undestand that is not a good habit just shot no matter what, but in a depleated team how we are now give him the keys for some games can be useful for his scoring instinct. Furthermore wiggins dont look like a ball hog, in fact i think his problem is closer to be the exact opposite. I dont blame corey or andrew btw, is more about gameplan, but with all the adjustments flip must do for the injuries im not frustrated neither, is only my point of view.

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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#183 » by djeros612 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:34 pm

I rather wiggins focus on being an efficient player then put up as many shots as possible .

Hell if we let Johnny Flynn shoot 30 times a game would he still be in the league ?

As long as wiggins is getting the chance to be as much of a part of the offense as he wants right now , that's fine .

As long as wiggins shoots more when he's hitting and not taking contested jump shots when he's missing I'm happy with it.


Would wiggins going 5-20 instead of 4-14 make any difference in his development?


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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#184 » by MinneOOPalis » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:04 am

djeros612 wrote:I rather wiggins focus on being an efficient player then put up as many shots as possible .

Hell if we let Johnny Flynn shoot 30 times a game would he still be in the league ?

As long as wiggins is getting the chance to be as much of a part of the offense as he wants right now , that's fine .

As long as wiggins shoots more when he's hitting and not taking contested jump shots when he's missing I'm happy with it.


Would wiggins going 5-20 instead of 4-14 make any difference in his development?


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He's a rookie. He doesn't know how to get the most efficient shots yet. It's a natural progression. You guys worrying about every little thing.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#185 » by Piecake » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:10 am

MinneOOPalis wrote:
djeros612 wrote:I rather wiggins focus on being an efficient player then put up as many shots as possible .

Hell if we let Johnny Flynn shoot 30 times a game would he still be in the league ?

As long as wiggins is getting the chance to be as much of a part of the offense as he wants right now , that's fine .

As long as wiggins shoots more when he's hitting and not taking contested jump shots when he's missing I'm happy with it.


Would wiggins going 5-20 instead of 4-14 make any difference in his development?


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He's a rookie. He doesn't know how to get the most efficient shots yet. It's a natural progression. You guys worrying about every little thing.


Rookie's aren't morons. I think everyone knows that a contested jump shot has a lesser chance of going in than an open jumper and a lay-up, and that a 3 is more efficient than a long 2. That is all we are asking. Him not getting in the bad habit of constantly taking contested, hero-ball jump shots.
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Post#186 » by slinky » Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:26 pm

Its not about being a moron. Its about learning what you can get away with on the court. He is only two years removed from HS where he was able to do whatever he wanted on the court. Only a year removed from being the most athletic on the court almost every night. Now the athleticsm gap has closed pretty significantly. He has to learn what he can get away with and what he can't. I don't think he learns that by only taking 6 open jumpers a game and passing the ball to Corey Brewer to watch him chuck shots. :-)

I think he needs to learn how to deal with a contested step back jumper. That's how he develops counters. Just last game, he had a step back, and a pump fake rather than shooting.

I also want him to develop a go-to mentality. The guy at end of games that thinks he can make any shot. Its why I think you see Flip running sets to feed Wiggins the ball in the post. Those are end of game isolation plays.
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Post#187 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:35 pm

He seems like he already has a go-to mentality, or at least he operates like he has the green light at most times. Bigger problem to me is not enough tight games where he's getting chances to take big shots down the stretch instead of taking stat-padding shots down by 20.
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Post#188 » by Killboard » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:23 am

I heard Flip coaching is about add little parts of the game to his rookies as season goes. I say this cause the most of offensive plays for him are high post plays (when he have size adventage) or low post where he can attack the baseline. He is not poised with the dribble for run the pick but he will be there with more experience.
Anyway i would like see more plays where he can use his athleticism and good picks to get open shots. That was his main offensive tool in college. His jumper mechanics are so pretty that is acrime let corey take shots. Obviously with Ricky on the field Flip could use him differently, but is not an excuse in my opinion.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#189 » by djeros612 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:49 am

MinneOOPalis wrote:
djeros612 wrote:I rather wiggins focus on being an efficient player then put up as many shots as possible .

Hell if we let Johnny Flynn shoot 30 times a game would he still be in the league ?

As long as wiggins is getting the chance to be as much of a part of the offense as he wants right now , that's fine .

As long as wiggins shoots more when he's hitting and not taking contested jump shots when he's missing I'm happy with it.


Would wiggins going 5-20 instead of 4-14 make any difference in his development?


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He's a rookie. He doesn't know how to get the most efficient shots yet. It's a natural progression. You guys worrying about every little thing.
completly missed my point


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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#190 » by MinneOOPalis » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:55 am

We didn't even get to see him gain some chemistry with Ricky. But now hes getting time to get the kinks out and will be more refined once Ricky gets back in January,
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Post#191 » by Note30 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:46 am

Tonight was Wiggins break out game. If he plays like this every game, and if the healthy starting squad of Rubio, Bazz, Wiggins, Dieng develops chemistry from Jan to the end of the season, we will be in amazing shape come April. Atleast in terms of being a solid team next year.
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Post#192 » by Feilong » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:34 am

In this game Wiggins and Bennett had to make a statement.
CLE traded them, traded future for present (Love) and they had every reason to show them that they made a questionable decision.
Wiggins was great, mostly because he attacked the rim. Good job kid.
Bennett was the opposite.
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Post#193 » by wildvikeswolves » Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:14 am

He sucks, we should trade him for a PG
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#194 » by MinneOOPalis » Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:06 pm

Bennett doesn't even know what to do on the court. He is an undersized 4. He should be facing up and using his speed and handle to get around guys, but wait! He doesn't have a handle and his bball IQ is pretty bad. He's already shown to me he isn't an NBA starter.
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Post#195 » by JShuttlesworth » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:26 pm

Wiggins looked incredible against Cleveland on the 23rd. Really showing what he is capable of doing - no fear going up against Lebron. He needs to learn how to get consistent and put up numbers on a nightly basis - that will come with time though. I look forward to seeing what he can do as the season progresses. Wiggins and Rubio are going to be great for you guys - they are going to be exciting to watch.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#196 » by Calinks » Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:21 am

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Post#197 » by Maefteda » Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:35 am

Kinda ridiculous to base it all on adjusted Plus/Minus stats, as Wiggins plays for one of the worst starting 5's in the league with Rubio, Martin and Pekovic all injured. Rookies are usually not contributing in a positive way in their first year on the court anyway, so all we can judge him on now is the flashes he has shown throughout the season.

He's not looking like a future LeBron or Kobe, but that was always just hype anyway. He does however, look like a future 2-way stud in the league.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#198 » by AQuintus » Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:24 am

Maefteda wrote:Kinda ridiculous to base it all on adjusted Plus/Minus stats, as Wiggins plays for one of the worst starting 5's in the league with Rubio, Martin and Pekovic all injured.


That shouldn't matter, because in theory, Adjusted Plus Minus adjusts for teammates. With that said, it can only do so by using multiple (usually 3-5) seasons worth of data. Using less than half of a season for Wiggins makes it really useless.
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Post#199 » by Murphs56 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:42 am

JShuttlesworth wrote:Wiggins looked incredible against Cleveland on the 23rd. Really showing what he is capable of doing - no fear going up against Lebron. He needs to learn how to get consistent and put up numbers on a nightly basis - that will come with time though. I look forward to seeing what he can do as the season progresses. Wiggins and Rubio are going to be great for you guys - they are going to be exciting to watch.


I agree. I have no complaints about Wiggins has done thus far. He's had his clunkers, but overall has gained valuable experience continuously being given the hardest assignment of the opposing team's best player. I like his release on his jumper and he'll be more consistent with it over time. He tends to fade out of the game, but I think his aggressiveness will continue to improve as he gets older. People seem to forget he's only 19. Once Rubio comes back, it will be great to see him getting a lot of easy looks. Playing with a competent point guard makes a world of difference
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#200 » by Calinks » Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:58 am

Stuff like that is why I hate +/-. Its so circumstantial.
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