2015 Lakers Trade Deadline thread

[aaron_gray]

Jennings, Augustin
for
Lin, Price

Lakers get two PGs who both expire same time as Kobe

Pistons give the keys to the tank to Lin

If you want to move Jennings, you're going to need to give up a first. Something like lottery protected this year and next, top 10 in the 3rd year, top 5 in the 4th and unprotected in 2020.

[Jajwanda]

Perhaps part of Lance Stephenson's problem this year has been the fact that he's been asked to play as a traditional wing rather than as a pseudo-PG. He was essentially Indiana's PG last year with Hill spotting up on the wing. I wouldn't be against making a move for Stephenson with Kobe in the off the ball George role and Ellington spotting up. That would give you tremendous size against opposing PGs.

[Jajwanda]

In fact if you take a look at Lance Stephenson's numbers you'll see that Charlotte does fine with Roberts-Stephenson out there but not Walker-Stephenson.

[aaron_gray]

Also I wasn't kidding when I said the Celtics have enough assets to make a move for Derrick Favors. Jeff Green + Avery Bradley + Late 1st is almost exactly what Derrick Favors will be worth. Then again I am using a particularly shaky dollars in millions per 2nd round pick ratio found on a sb nation blog, so you should take everything I say with a grain of salt.

Edit: lol multiplied instead of divided
Edit 2: That late 1st value rises into late lottery value if you include the o/c of Bradley's horrendous contract.

[hoops_32]

With Varejao out Cleveland could use a bigman. Maybe Hill for Waiters could be a possibility?

Then move Waiters plus the 1st round pick we got from Houston for MCW.

I think Philly would love to get another pick since they are rebuilding and we could use an upgrade and longterm solution at PG.

[aaron_gray]

This trade will become possible once Mirotic gets shelved

[Dez]

This trade will become possible once Mirotic gets shelved

No, no it's not possible.

The Bulls won't trade Mirotic anyway but nothing the Lakers have would get Nikola, the FO didn't wait all this time for him to come over just to dump him for no reason and no value.

Wouldn't mind getting Wesley Johnson to spell Butler though, something like Snell and a 2nd round pick (or 2) for Johnson?

[cw3k]

With Varejao out Cleveland could use a bigman. Maybe Hill for Waiters could be a possibility?

Then move Waiters plus the 1st round pick we got from Houston for MCW.

I think Philly would love to get another pick since they are rebuilding and we could use an upgrade and longterm solution at PG.

Why would Lakers wants someone who has a tank mentality build into him?

[Optms]

If we somehow land Waiters, I'd keep him. He's pretty talented as a scorer. He's just not in the right situation in Cleveland to succeed what with Kyrie and Lebron hogging ball duties.

MCW sucks.

[EdXDavis21]

What can the Lakers get for Wes Johnson?

I think the only untouchables on the roster are Davis/Randle.... everyone else can be had... and yes.. even Kobe but someone would need to offer something really GOOD for the Lakers to consider it.....

I know that the management isn't that cruel to just let this season slide with nothing to look forward to... they can't hinge there hats on the FA when nothing is guaranteed in that regard....... if nothing happens by Feb.... I'd be highly disappointed and would expect a letter from the management to the fans.

[Fresh360Waves]

This trade will become possible once Mirotic gets shelved

No, no it's not possible.

The Bulls won't trade Mirotic anyway but nothing the Lakers have would get Nikola, the FO didn't wait all this time for him to come over just to dump him for no reason and no value.

Wouldn't mind getting Wesley Johnson to spell Butler though, something like Snell and a 2nd round pick (or 2) for Johnson?

Acquiring Snell wouldn't be bad at all. That guy has some potential and needs mins.

[Pointgod]

Bulls fan here, simple trade:

E'Twaun Moore plus two second round picks (2016 & 2017) for Wes Johnson.

E'Twaun Moore's contract is wholly unguaranteed so it shouldn't disturb your FA plans. Or, if you guys really like him, you can keep him at $1M.

Thought of giving you Tony Snell, but his contract is guaranteed next season so I don't think you guys want him.

Deal or no deal?

You serious? Id take that deal and run far far away

[Penberthy]

This trade will become possible once Mirotic gets shelved

Aaron brooks becomes CHIs only pg.

[NATIVE SON]

Would you guyz consider some kind of variation of J.Lin and J.Hill plus Clarkson or 2nd rd pick for Mcgee and Afflalo or Harris? I like J.Mcgee's potential, I know he's injured right now, but our season isn't looking that good anyway...Maybe Kareem can coach him up..For Denver they get a backup PG that brings energy and fast pace denver likes to play with and he comes off the books next year, They also get a backup/starting C who will bring some much needed glasswork and he also has a team option for next year if they decided to go a different direction. If coach wants a really good defensive team like he says he does....Get Mcgee to protect the rim......I know understand.He has chemistry with Nick Young because of there days @Wash. He can start at center when he's healthy. I know he isn't going to allow these players to just waltz into the paint with a layup, every time you get him the ball its gonna be a dunk... hes a great roll guy on the pick and roll (maybe capt. can coach him up with some post moves). He's still young and the most athletic big in the league, he's long and tall, big target able to put on more weight if he gets some post moves, I know he's not that bright but we don't need him to be as J. Randle will handle more of creator roll in the future..I also like G. Harris defense and shooting ability at backup PG. He's from M.State who always puts out good products (draymond green) and he was the 14th pick...Denver pulls the move in order to make a push for the playoffs and to alleviate cap space J. Mcgee is taking up because they have Nurkic for the futur

[Pointgod]

Would you guyz consider some kind of variation of J.Lin and J.Hill plus Clarkson or 2nd rd pick for Mcgee and Afflalo or Harris? I like J.Mcgee's potential, I know he's injured right now, but our season isn't looking that good anyway...Maybe Kareem can coach him up..For Denver they get a backup PG that brings energy and fast pace denver likes to play with and he comes off the books next year, They also get a backup/starting C who will bring some much needed glasswork and he also has a team option for next year if they decided to go a different direction. If coach wants a really good defensive team like he says he does....Get Mcgee to protect the rim......I know understand.He has chemistry with Nick Young because of there days @Wash. He can start at center when he's healthy. I know he isn't going to allow these players to just waltz into the paint with a layup, every time you get him the ball its gonna be a dunk... hes a great roll guy on the pick and roll (maybe capt. can coach him up with some post moves). He's still young and the most athletic big in the league, he's long and tall, big target able to put on more weight if he gets some post moves, I know he's not that bright but we don't need him to be as J. Randle will handle more of creator roll in the future..I also like G. Harris defense and shooting ability at backup PG. He's from M.State who always puts out good products (draymond green) and he was the 14th pick...Denver pulls the move in order to make a push for the playoffs and to alleviate cap space J. Mcgee is taking up because they have Nurkic for the futur

No. Mcgee is bonehead and he sucks like really bad. The only trades we should be looking to make are either for all stars or picks coming back our way.

[aaron_gray]

You heard it here first:

[NATIVE SON]

Would you guyz consider some kind of variation of J.Lin and J.Hill plus Clarkson or 2nd rd pick for Mcgee and Afflalo or Harris? I like J.Mcgee's potential, I know he's injured right now, but our season isn't looking that good anyway...Maybe Kareem can coach him up..For Denver they get a backup PG that brings energy and fast pace denver likes to play with and he comes off the books next year, They also get a backup/starting C who will bring some much needed glasswork and he also has a team option for next year if they decided to go a different direction. If coach wants a really good defensive team like he says he does....Get Mcgee to protect the rim......I know understand.He has chemistry with Nick Young because of there days @Wash. He can start at center when he's healthy. I know he isn't going to allow these players to just waltz into the paint with a layup, every time you get him the ball its gonna be a dunk... hes a great roll guy on the pick and roll (maybe capt. can coach him up with some post moves). He's still young and the most athletic big in the league, he's long and tall, big target able to put on more weight if he gets some post moves, I know he's not that bright but we don't need him to be as J. Randle will handle more of creator roll in the future..I also like G. Harris defense and shooting ability at backup PG. He's from M.State who always puts out good products (draymond green) and he was the 14th pick...Denver pulls the move in order to make a push for the playoffs and to alleviate cap space J. Mcgee is taking up because they have Nurkic for the futur

No. Mcgee is bonehead and he sucks like really bad. The only trades we should be looking to make are either for all stars or picks coming back our way.

While I agree that Mcgee does make really bonehead plays, I think that it can be minimized by where he gets the ball, and I don't think he sucks more than J.Hill did when we picked him up and look at how he has rounded into a productive player..Look there aren't gonna be many big men falling out of the sky, and most teams in the nba are looking for rim protecting big men so the price on Mcgee is gonna go up when he becomes healthy...What all-stars and picks are you talking about? I don't believe we can get an allstar player for what we have as assets. Additionally, I'm not ask pick centric as most of you guyz, Talk about shooting craps! Why go with picks and there are plenty of young enough players in the L and on our roster that has proven something in the NBA...The Lakers don't build through the draft....we may get a pick or so through the draft, but we don't do what say OKC has done or Portland, Neither of which has won a championship and may never win one. I would love to keep our pick and Houstons and that should be enough! All these extra picks that you are talking about I don't necessarily want because then you are way too green to compete....Look at the Tpups

[Penberthy]

McGee is out again at least 6 weeks with a sore tibia. He missed all last year bc of the tibia. Doesn't this concern you especially considering his style of play?

[Pointgod]

Would you guyz consider some kind of variation of J.Lin and J.Hill plus Clarkson or 2nd rd pick for Mcgee and Afflalo or Harris? I like J.Mcgee's potential, I know he's injured right now, but our season isn't looking that good anyway...Maybe Kareem can coach him up..For Denver they get a backup PG that brings energy and fast pace denver likes to play with and he comes off the books next year, They also get a backup/starting C who will bring some much needed glasswork and he also has a team option for next year if they decided to go a different direction. If coach wants a really good defensive team like he says he does....Get Mcgee to protect the rim......I know understand.He has chemistry with Nick Young because of there days @Wash. He can start at center when he's healthy. I know he isn't going to allow these players to just waltz into the paint with a layup, every time you get him the ball its gonna be a dunk... hes a great roll guy on the pick and roll (maybe capt. can coach him up with some post moves). He's still young and the most athletic big in the league, he's long and tall, big target able to put on more weight if he gets some post moves, I know he's not that bright but we don't need him to be as J. Randle will handle more of creator roll in the future..I also like G. Harris defense and shooting ability at backup PG. He's from M.State who always puts out good products (draymond green) and he was the 14th pick...Denver pulls the move in order to make a push for the playoffs and to alleviate cap space J. Mcgee is taking up because they have Nurkic for the futur

No. Mcgee is bonehead and he sucks like really bad. The only trades we should be looking to make are either for all stars or picks coming back our way.

While I agree that Mcgee does make really bonehead plays, I think that it can be minimized by where he gets the ball, and I don't think he sucks more than J.Hill did when we picked him up and look at how he has rounded into a productive player..Look there aren't gonna be many big men falling out of the sky, and most teams in the nba are looking for rim protecting big men so the price on Mcgee is gonna go up when he becomes healthy...What all-stars and picks are you talking about? I don't believe we can get an allstar player for what we have as assets. Additionally, I'm not ask pick centric as most of you guyz, Talk about shooting craps! Why go with picks and there are plenty of young enough players in the L and on our roster that has proven something in the NBA...The Lakers don't build through the draft....we may get a pick or so through the draft, but we don't do what say OKC has done or Portland, Neither of which has won a championship and may never win one. I would love to keep our pick and Houstons and that should be enough! All these extra picks that you are talking about I don't necessarily want because then you are way too green to compete....Look at the Tpups

Mcgee is simply not the answer. If you want a low IQ rim protector then we can go for Dalembert for a quarter of the price. Not only is Mcgee injury prone, it's not like he's a young player that can still improve. But by all means if Denver is willing to give up picks along with Mcgee you make the move. The whole point of stock piling picks is to use them to make a trade when that all star becomes available. Yes having youth is great, but not flipping that youth into allstar talent is where teams like the Twolves go wrong. OKC and Portland are light years ahead of us so I wouldn't discount whatever they've done. We got extremely lucky with Kobe even though we were rebuilding. Gasol trades for pure cap space aren't feasible anymore. This is a different NBA than the one we built our championship.

[lelelazza8]

Trade J.Hill, W.Johnson and 2015 Clippers 2nd round pick to Toronto for Hayes, Fields and 2015 1st round pick...

Lakers
Black/Sacre/Hayes
Davis/Boozer/Kelly
Young/Fields/Ellington
Bryant/Ellington/Clarkson
Price/Lin/Clarkson

Raptors
Valaciunas/Hill/Stiemsma
A.Johnson/P.Patterson/Hansbrough
Ross/J.Johnson/W.Johnson
Derozan/L.Williams/Caboclo
Lowry/Vasquez

Lakers tank and get top 5 1st round pick (save your pick) + HOU and TOR 1st round pick...
Toronto increase the bench and maintain future flexibility...