Byron Scott and Kobe's minutes

[tenten]

not believing anything this guy said unless I see it. He knows nothing about his players.

Some how Hill plays center and Davis plays pf
Some how he plays boozer with sacre and say we're focusing on defense
Some how he calls out Lin for being ball dominant and not setting teammates up
Some how he changes the lineup that plays with kobe to be either non-defensive or non-offensive to the extreme

It's scary to think that what he had been doing with Kobe and this team was his idea of trying to get us the most W's.

[ChokeFasncists]

Scott definitely should have tried the sensible Davis/Boozer switch instead of the wholesale extreme offense/defense switch.

IMO he should start Lin again to alleviate some pressure off Kobe offensively, then sub in Price soon if his D isn't good. It's really unfortunate that Hill's J has become very unreliable, maybe try starting Sacre as he's a true big man just for a short stretch at the beginning.

Or just keep the preseason. Lineup and feed boozer with the first unit.

Or simply move price to the bench and start Swaggy

Na, na, Boozer is best off the bench at this stage of his career, both ends. Boozer and Hill is a horrific combo for starters, no rim protection.

The preseason lineup was with Nash starting. Lin got injured when Nash was out.

If Swaggy starts who guards the elite point guards? Who sets up the offense? Swaggy is most suitable as a gunner off the bench 6th man type.

[tenten]

Let me give you the best lineup that Scott will never play:

price-lin-kobe-hill-davis

[kblo247]

Scott definitely should have tried the sensible Davis/Boozer switch instead of the wholesale extreme offense/defense switch.

IMO he should start Lin again to alleviate some pressure off Kobe offensively, then sub in Price soon if his D isn't good. It's really unfortunate that Hill's J has become very unreliable, maybe try starting Sacre as he's a true big man just for a short stretch at the beginning.

Or just keep the preseason. Lineup and feed boozer with the first unit.

Or simply move price to the bench and start Swaggy

Na, na, Boozer is best off the bench at this stage of his career, both ends. Boozer and Hill is a horrific combo for starters, no rim protection.

The preseason lineup was with Nash starting. Lin got injured when Nash was out.

If Swaggy starts who guards the elite point guards? Who sets up the offense? Swaggy is most suitable as a gunner off the bench 6th man type.

Price started in front of Lin in the preseason and Scott cited familiarity with boozer as reasoning.

Swaggy starts and offers scoring, Wes defends PG, and Kobe burden eases.

Lin and Boozer have total offensive control on unit 2 with 3 role players
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Kobe's efficiency was actually ticking upward with the firstlineup

[ChokeFasncists]

Or just keep the preseason. Lineup and feed boozer with the first unit.

Or simply move price to the bench and start Swaggy

Na, na, Boozer is best off the bench at this stage of his career, both ends. Boozer and Hill is a horrific combo for starters, no rim protection.

The preseason lineup was with Nash starting. Lin got injured when Nash was out.

If Swaggy starts who guards the elite point guards? Who sets up the offense? Swaggy is most suitable as a gunner off the bench 6th man type.

Price started in front of Lin in the preseason and Scott cited familiarity with boozer as reasoning.

Swaggy starts and offers scoring, Wes defends PG, and Kobe burden eases.

Lin and Boozer have total offensive control on unit 2 with 3 role players
'
Kobe's efficiency was actually ticking upward with the firstlineup

That makes it even more puzzling why Scott wouldn't just switch Boozer/Davis. Price/Boozer are good and Lin/Davis are good. Is he really trying to facilitate team win?

Wes defending PGs......then who guards the best wing scorers?

True, Lin and Boozer would be fine.

I don't understand, what's the firstlineup?

[kblo247]

Na, na, Boozer is best off the bench at this stage of his career, both ends. Boozer and Hill is a horrific combo for starters, no rim protection.

The preseason lineup was with Nash starting. Lin got injured when Nash was out.

If Swaggy starts who guards the elite point guards? Who sets up the offense? Swaggy is most suitable as a gunner off the bench 6th man type.

Price started in front of Lin in the preseason and Scott cited familiarity with boozer as reasoning.

Swaggy starts and offers scoring, Wes defends PG, and Kobe burden eases.

Lin and Boozer have total offensive control on unit 2 with 3 role players
'
Kobe's efficiency was actually ticking upward with the firstlineup

That makes it even more puzzling why Scott wouldn't just switch Boozer/Davis. Price/Boozer are good and Lin/Davis are good. Is he really trying to facilitate team win?

Wes defending PGs......then who guards the best wing scorers?

True, Lin and Boozer would be fine.

I don't understand, what's the firstlineup?

Scott can't figure out Scott, I'm not trying. It made no sense to start price all preseason, cite that, and then on game 1 switch it up. It made no sense to switch out both the PG and PF from both lineups either at once.

Aside from KD who cares? There is no wing that is that bad out west. I mean the west has Westbrook, Conley, Parker, Bledsoe/Dragic, Lillard, Holiday, CP3, Lawson ... I rather disrupt them ... The fact is wes can switch on to Monta, Harden, and Hayward when we play them. Nick and Kobe can handle the rest while Wes plays the PG's out west with his length and athletic ability. I mean Kobe's burden lessens with Nick to handle the ball and him being able to score and stretch.

As for the first lineup, Lin/Kobe/Wes/Booz/Hill ... Kobe's effiency was actually getting better and then they broke them up. 'Scott transitioned to all 4 defensive players next to him and an offensive bench lineup and Kobe's shooting dipped

[ChokeFasncists]

Scott can't figure out Scott, I'm not trying. It made no sense to start price all preseason, cite that, and then on game 1 switch it up.

Wait, let's get the fact straight. Nash was going to start with Lin off the bench. Then Nash was injured and Lin was starting with Price off the bench. Then Lin got injured and Price started with Appling off the bench. Then Nash came back and started with Price off the bench. Then Nash was out and Price started with Roscoe Smith off the bench. Then Lin came back and was off the bench with Price starting. Then Price got injured and Lin started. So......conclusions is......Price didn't start all preseason......

It made no sense to switch out both the PG and PF from both lineups either at once.

Absolutely.

Aside from KD who cares? There is no wing that is that bad out west. I mean the west has Westbrook, Conley, Parker, Bledsoe/Dragic, Lillard, Holiday, CP3, Lawson ... I rather disrupt them ... The fact is wes can switch on to Monta, Harden, and Hayward when we play them. Nick and Kobe can handle the rest while Wes plays the PG's out west with his length and athletic ability. I mean Kobe's burden lessens with Nick to handle the ball and him being able to score and stretch.

Well, with Bledsoe/Dragic there's a problem. Holiday/Evans, Parker/Leonard, Monta/Parsons etc. Not sure it's a good idea

As for the first lineup, Lin/Kobe/Wes/Booz/Hill ... Kobe's effiency was actually getting better and then they broke them up. 'Scott transitioned to all 4 defensive players next to him and an offensive bench lineup and Kobe's shooting dipped

Ya, pretty bizarre......

[madmaxmedia]

Just to get this out of the way... Kobe's averaging his fewest MPG since his sophomore season (excluding his injury season)... 35.4
For reference Duncan has been averaging about 30mpg over the last several seasons... Higher this year at 32.1. But Kobe doesn't have anywhere near the team he has.

The question is how many minutes should he play, and when? Do you rigidly sit him like Phil did pretty much like clockwork regardless of what's going on in the game? Or do you pick your spots?

Maybe if he didn't play like he's trying to score half the team's points, that 35 MPG wouldn't be so taxing...

[ChokeFasncists]

So maybe Scott's been just trying to get rid of Kobe afterall.

[Jajwanda]

Kobe looked impressive against the Mavericks on defense when he wanted to. Perhaps his game should include more of a bull dog defensive role.

[ChokeFasncists]

The way he went against the Pacers in the second half was really something.

[Jajwanda]

It's a thought you know. There are two teams in the league with extra large SFs, that being the Cavs and the Thunder. Wes Johnson at 6-7, 215 is not a more physical/stronger defender than Kobe a 6-7,210. Now that it's clear Kobe's offense is not nearly as valuable perhaps Kobe should take on the role of the team's SF. I don't think Wes is any more capable of guarding LBJ than Kobe is and Wes has never been impressive against Durant. Kobe will get in his head.

Kobe's next role? Defense?

[wizfactor94]

^ Too funny.

[Slava]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/KevinDing/status/548336695423541248[/tweet]

[Slava]

I think TyCobb posted about Kobe needing to break his habits slowly in the last game thread. Kobe seems to agree.

“It’s habit for me to move around and be active offensively, all over the place from different spots on the floor,” Bryant said. “I don’t think my body can hold up to that. …A lot of that is breaking habits, because you’re used to playing a certain way for so long.”

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2310 ... st-old-age

[kblo247]

It really is because he played hybrid MJ and Scottie for years. He is going to have to watch as crazy as this **** may sound, Del Harris tapes back when he played with Eddie and Nick and operated on one side.

[leeprettyp]

Yeah let Bean rest up. Guys are gonna need to step up we're not too far from that 8spot in the West. We need to focus on that because we're not keeping that top 5 pick... And I want either Okafor, Towns or Stanley

[crazyeights]

Yeah let Bean rest up. Guys are gonna need to step up we're not too far from that 8spot in the West. We need to focus on that because we're not keeping that top 5 pick... And I want either Okafor, Towns or Stanley

Sure, we're not too far from the 8th spot in a vacuum. But based on our talent, how we've played, and the fact that OKC is surging, we're statistically already eliminated from the playoffs.

To say we're definitively not keeping a top 5 pick is silly. We shouldn't rely on it, but right now we're in 5th place. I think it's pretty likely we'll land between 4th (if Detroit's cutting Josh Smith propels them outside of the toilet bowl) and 10th, with our likeliest probably between 5-8th.

[Place we finish]: [Odds we keep the pick] (Pick range)

4th: 82.8% (1-5)
5th: 36.8% (1-3; 5)
6th: 21.5% (1-3)
7th: 15.0% (1-3)
8th: 10.0% (1-3)
9th: 6.1% (1-3)
10th: 4.0% (1-3)

To put that in perspective, according to Hollinger's Playoff Odds we have only a 0.2% chance of making the playoffs right now.

Even after a 10th place finish, the odds of keeping the pick (4.0%) are 20 times greater than simply making the playoffs.

And yes, that speaks more to how small of a margin of error we have to make post-season rather than relying on keeping our pick...but in reality it's much more likely...so to think we have a shot at the POs and not the pick...it's silly.