They must let DeMarco get that team record!

[Manster7588]

My kid is a Cardinals fans first because thats where they were born. Of course Im gonna get ripped being in the heart of a Cowboys board but a Lakers/Cowboys/Braves fan came to fruition via one route and one route only. You had a home team that you turned your back on and decided to root for teams with glorious histories. Just own it and admit it. I think it is REALLY freaking lame but on the other hand it doesnt define you completely as a person. A Cowboy fan outside of Texas might be great parents, husbands, community members etc. I dont know. But to choose teams just cause they win is corny. Its a personality type. In the Olympics I root for the USA Basketball team to lose. When there are two teams I dont care about in a championship game I go for the under dog. When the 2000 Miami Hurricanes played Akron... Im rooting for Akron.

But the big difference between me and BJJ specifically is I dont think that the Eagles represent who I am. I love them and always will but he comes on here thinking he's a winner cause 20 years ago Dallas won the SB. When Philly smashed Dallas he hid. When Philly beat Dallas last year to go to the playoffs my first post was, "Dallas would have won with Romo". For some reason people think, "Oh, Malkos just trying to say something nice but I just try to be objective. When Philly smashed Dallas on Thanksgiving I said, "It doesnt matter cause Philly aint doing nothing this year". Remember BJJ last year saying Dallas was going 16-0? I do. Now he's telling us he went to SB 10 which means he is at least in his late 50s and theres absolutely no way someone that stupid and immature is pushing 60 years old.

Fact is most youngsters are fans of dad's team even before they know who the local teams are. I grew up in LA, Lakers and Dodgers were winning and the Rams were pretty damn good too. Dad is from Massachusetts so I followed his loves. To me it doesn't matter who you root for as long as you stick by that team and not jump. Trust me I'm not defending BJJ but he's in the NE area and his closest team is the Pat's. He could easily wagon jump and be following a winner to make himself feel better. Now by you logic you should abandon all Philly teams for those in Arizona. I mean they are your home teams.

[Manster7588]

FYI Malco. I'll watch the Dallas game on my TV today. No I didn't get Direct TV, the game is on FOX here in Vegas. See even virtually meaningless Dallas games are broadcast here.

Now please get over your hatred for out of area Dallas fans, you out of area Eagle fan.

[Jarntt]

My kid is a Cardinals fans first because thats where they were born. Of course Im gonna get ripped being in the heart of a Cowboys board but a Lakers/Cowboys/Braves fan came to fruition via one route and one route only. You had a home team that you turned your back on and decided to root for teams with glorious histories. Just own it and admit it. I think it is REALLY freaking lame but on the other hand it doesnt define you completely as a person. A Cowboy fan outside of Texas might be great parents, husbands, community members etc. I dont know. But to choose teams just cause they win is corny. Its a personality type. In the Olympics I root for the USA Basketball team to lose. When there are two teams I dont care about in a championship game I go for the under dog. When the 2000 Miami Hurricanes played Akron... Im rooting for Akron.

But the big difference between me and BJJ specifically is I dont think that the Eagles represent who I am. I love them and always will but he comes on here thinking he's a winner cause 20 years ago Dallas won the SB. When Philly smashed Dallas he hid. When Philly beat Dallas last year to go to the playoffs my first post was, "Dallas would have won with Romo". For some reason people think, "Oh, Malkos just trying to say something nice but I just try to be objective. When Philly smashed Dallas on Thanksgiving I said, "It doesnt matter cause Philly aint doing nothing this year". Remember BJJ last year saying Dallas was going 16-0? I do. Now he's telling us he went to SB 10 which means he is at least in his late 50s and theres absolutely no way someone that stupid and immature is pushing 60 years old.

Fact is most youngsters are fans of dad's team even before they know who the local teams are. I grew up in LA, Lakers and Dodgers were winning and the Rams were pretty damn good too. Dad is from Massachusetts so I followed his loves. To me it doesn't matter who you root for as long as you stick by that team and not jump. Trust me I'm not defending BJJ but he's in the NE area and his closest team is the Pat's. He could easily wagon jump and be following a winner to make himself feel better. Now by you logic you should abandon all Philly teams for those in Arizona. I mean they are your home teams.

You aren't going to change his mind, so don't waste your time. To say a kid picks a team because of their history is asinine. No kid knows anything when they first pick a team other than the present. To say that a man roots for his home team is also beyond silly. It's just a typical passive aggressive attack designed to insult and nothing else. National TV games and now the Internet have mostly eroded geographical "home teams". I'm surprised a teacher that is also a sports fan can show such lack of understanding or intelligence...not sure which it is...but is very interesting that the comments come from an Eagles fan that chooses to spend his football online chat time on a Dallas Cowboys board.

[ncmalko1]

Stop that Jarntt. A kid doesnt pick a team because of its history. STOP THAT NONSENSE. Why are there 10,000 Bulls fans to every TImberwolve fan. Why is their 10,000 Cowboy fan to every Jaguar fan. If you are going to tell me people just randomly choose their favorite team I should just walk away. Be for real dude.

The internet eroded home team loyalty. Get the F out of here with that nonsense.

[bluejerseyjinx]

My kid is a Cardinals fans first because thats where they were born. Of course Im gonna get ripped being in the heart of a Cowboys board but a Lakers/Cowboys/Braves fan came to fruition via one route and one route only. You had a home team that you turned your back on and decided to root for teams with glorious histories. Just own it and admit it. I think it is REALLY freaking lame but on the other hand it doesnt define you completely as a person. A Cowboy fan outside of Texas might be great parents, husbands, community members etc. I dont know. But to choose teams just cause they win is corny. Its a personality type. In the Olympics I root for the USA Basketball team to lose. When there are two teams I dont care about in a championship game I go for the under dog. When the 2000 Miami Hurricanes played Akron... Im rooting for Akron.

But the big difference between me and BJJ specifically is I dont think that the Eagles represent who I am. I love them and always will but he comes on here thinking he's a winner cause 20 years ago Dallas won the SB. When Philly smashed Dallas he hid. When Philly beat Dallas last year to go to the playoffs my first post was, "Dallas would have won with Romo". For some reason people think, "Oh, Malkos just trying to say something nice but I just try to be objective. When Philly smashed Dallas on Thanksgiving I said, "It doesnt matter cause Philly aint doing nothing this year". Remember BJJ last year saying Dallas was going 16-0? I do. Now he's telling us he went to SB 10 which means he is at least in his late 50s and theres absolutely no way someone that stupid and immature is pushing 60 years old.

Fact is most youngsters are fans of dad's team even before they know who the local teams are. I grew up in LA, Lakers and Dodgers were winning and the Rams were pretty damn good too. Dad is from Massachusetts so I followed his loves. To me it doesn't matter who you root for as long as you stick by that team and not jump. Trust me I'm not defending BJJ but he's in the NE area and his closest team is the Pat's. He could easily wagon jump and be following a winner to make himself feel better. Now by you logic you should abandon all Philly teams for those in Arizona. I mean they are your home teams.

You aren't going to change his mind, so don't waste your time. To say a kid picks a team because of their history is asinine. No kid knows anything when they first pick a team other than the present. To say that a man roots for his home team is also beyond silly. It's just a typical passive aggressive attack designed to insult and nothing else. National TV games and now the Internet have mostly eroded geographical "home teams". I'm surprised a teacher that is also a sports fan can show such lack of understanding or intelligence...not sure which it is...but is very interesting that the comments come from an Eagles fan that chooses to spend his football online chat time on a Dallas Cowboys board.

I became a Cowboy fan in 1969. Cowboys had not even won a championship then so I don't know how I can be accused of being a front runner. My family had tons of Giant and Dolphin fans. All I can do here is laugh at Malko. The other day said I was a front runner with all my teams. Let's see, the Bruins, 1 Stanley cup in 42 years. Celtics, one championship in 28 years and the Cowboys nothing in 17 years. Yea, I'm a front runner. I believe they really call it loyalty.

[pools]

Stop that Jarntt. A kid doesnt pick a team because of its history. STOP THAT NONSENSE. Why are there 10,000 Bulls fans to every TImberwolve fan. Why is their 10,000 Cowboy fan to every Jaguar fan. If you are going to tell me people just randomly choose their favorite team I should just walk away. Be for real dude.

The internet eroded home team loyalty. Get the F out of here with that nonsense.

HAHAHA REALLY you use expansion teams as your examples against teams that were in the league when said league began?


By the way I'm a cowboys, orioles,(kinda bulls don't watch) fan in LANCASTER, PA...... I was a player fan as a kid my dad wasn't/isnt much of a sports fan. Sanders/Smith, Ripken, Jordan........ stuck with my Favorite players teams when they retired/grew older.

[Schmoopy1000]

Im not simple minded Schmoop. Why dont you root for your home team? Whats simple minded about that? A man roots for their home team.

because I am not sheep.
If I had to root for a home team I would have had to be a niner or raider fan & I would rather not watch football than be a fan of either of them.

My all time favorite player (Randy White) was a Cowboy & my all time 2nd favorite player was a Cowboy (Roger Staubach)

As far as bandwagon fans. You should have lived in the bay area after "the catch" you would have seen true Bandwagon fans. Before the Catch, everyone was a Raider fan. Very very few Niner fans. After the Catch. All you ran into was niner fans.

As a little kid. I liked the colors & I liked the Star. My grandmother (who also liked the Cowboys) had a pic of me running around with my oversized Cowboys helmet on running with a football that was about a 1/3rd the size I was LOL. By the time I was 6 years old I knew more about the rules than any grown up around me. When I was probably about 9, I was trying to teach my mother about football. Was watching the Cowboys play the niners on TV with a friend (who was a niners fan) when the Cowboys got a 1st down & my mom yelled yay home run! I just looked at my mom & asked her to stop. she was embarrassing me LOL

Bottom line I have always been a Cowboys fan since knowing anything about football. So when you say people like me aren't true fans because the Cowboys aren't my home team. Is simple minded (like Sheep)
When you say someone has to root for their home team to be a true fan. That comment is also simple minded.
Rooting for your home team isn't simple minded, but saying you have too, to be a true fan is!

I lived in the bay area when the niners were going to superbowls & the Cowboys were going 1-15. Always be asked why I would root for such a crappy team. (by a bunch of true bandwagon fans) I wore my Cowboys cap proudly & got razed every where I went. I assure you I stick by my team. Now I had never heard your definition of a true fan til now, but by my definition I am a true fan.
I am not told what team I have to root for. I choose/chose the team I want & stick with them. As I started this post. because I am not Sheep.

Another example of how some people become fans of a team that aren't the home team.
A friend of mine didn't watch football until he started hanging around me, so he was older (not a kid) well he saw 1st hand all the bandwagon niner fans so that team turned him off. He loved watching Barry Sanders & became a fan of the lions. Well the lions have sucked for years, but he is still a fan of the Lions. All kinds of reasons not to be a fan of your home team.
I never got into baseball until I was much older. When I did, I was living in the seattle area & liked Jay Buhner. Ended up being a mariners fan. Let me assure you. They are no juggernaut in baseball. but my home team would have been Oakland or the giants. Actually like the A's as well but because of their yearly underdog status.
College sports teams I am not a huge fan of college ball but when I do watch my favorite team is the Wolverines. When I was young learning football I liked the name & the uniforms it was as simple as that. they have been my only favorite college team ever. Remember watching Harbaugh to Anthony Carter. heII when some college sport I have no clue about is on I hope the wolverines win. LOL granted in college sports I don't have a high vested interest, so when someone says they are a better fan than me, I would probably agree, but I still anytime any asks which is my favorite college team I say Michigan. Always has. So I haven't picked a home team as a favorite ever. What a farce I must be! (or maybe I was never told what team I "had" to root for)

[Jarntt]

Stop that Jarntt. A kid doesnt pick a team because of its history. STOP THAT NONSENSE. Why are there 10,000 Bulls fans to every TImberwolve fan. Why is their 10,000 Cowboy fan to every Jaguar fan. If you are going to tell me people just randomly choose their favorite team I should just walk away. Be for real dude.

The internet eroded home team loyalty. Get the F out of here with that nonsense.

Sorry dude, you can go all drama queen, but you are still wrong. No kid that just starts watching a sport asks how many SBs Dallas has won IN THE PAST. It is all about the present. There are no Jaguar fans because they suck. Now that Dallas is good again and won a very weak NFC East you will probably start seeing kids all over the country being Cowboy fans again, but if you think it has to do with Roger Staubach you are delusional. You think there are kids becoming Bulls fans For the first time today because of the championships they Won years ago? No, they became fans while Jordan was there. I hope this is another example of you not reading closely and not that you really can't follow along.

You don't think the Internet and the ability to follow any team has eroded team loyalty? Are you really saying that? I'll tell you what, it's also sports center and fantasy baseball/football that has done it,

Walking away would probably be a good idea because you couldn't show less of an understanding of the topic. A real man picks the team that is located geographically closest to him is as ridiculous of a sports conversation as it is a psychological discussion. That is actually one of the dumber comments I've ever read. Think about what you are saying. A person is only a real man if he roots for this local team? Does that even make sense to you when you say it?

Question for you. If Pat Tillman was a Cowboy fan growing up would he be a real man?

[ncmalko1]

Jarntt, Im not talking about a 6 year old today. Why do the Cowboys have by far the most fans in the NFL? Cause of the internet. Please. Acting like I dont know what Im talking about is laughable. I was talking about someone who is a Laker/Cowboy fan. I dont know where you came up with this idea that I said little kids like the Cowboys because of 20 years ago. Thats not what Im saying. In fact, all Im saying is that I was raised to ONLY root for the home team or the underdog.

[ncmalko1]

ANd yes, I do believe that one who is secure with themself wouldnt be a Laker/Cowboy/Yankees fan and there are TONS of them. TONS. And the only thing I think is less manly then rooting for the best teams is to argue a point and call someone a drama queen. That makes absolutely ZERO sense.

BJJ "The Cowboys are the best team by far in the NFL"
NCMALKO "They are good but they arent the best team in the NFL"
BJJ "Yes they are you drama queen"

LAME DUDE.

[Jarntt]

Jarntt, Im not talking about a 6 year old today. Why do the Cowboys have by far the most fans in the NFL? Cause of the internet. Please. Acting like I dont know what Im talking about is laughable. I was talking about someone who is a Laker/Cowboy fan. I dont know where you came up with this idea that I said little kids like the Cowboys because of 20 years ago. Thats not what Im saying. In fact, all Im saying is that I was raised to ONLY root for the home team or the underdog.

You don't know what you are talking about. Somewhere along the line you created a fictitious scenario that liking a team other than the one that is closest to your home is a sign of insecurity. How can you be a teacher and believe that is true? There are a million different reasons why someone becomes a fan of a team. The reason a lot of people are fans of the closest team is probably two fold. It's passed down by relatives or friends or its the one they see and hear the most about. Well, today there are countless ways to hear about teams and sport center (and the such)and the Internet are the two biggest. In the 70's and 90's the Cowboys were on TV constantly and on the front covers of magazines and that exposure brought them millions of fans, just like the Steelers and Raiders if the 70's, the 49ers of the 90's, etc. thinking that in anyway it is related to being a real man or being insecure is 100% because of one of two reasons: being a total idiot (which I don't think is the case) or just trying to insult people in a passive aggressive way which is right up your alley. The proof is that it is one of your "go to" insults when someone says something you disagrees with and has one of these teams as a favorite. It really makes you look like an idiot every time you bring it up

[Jarntt]

And obviously when I was talking about the Internet I was asking about kids of today. Again, don't try to pick out one aspect and pretend disputing that disputes the argument. You are the Mike Francesa of message boards in that respect.

So again, if Pat Tillman was a Cowboy fan growing up would he not be a real man?

By the way, isn't Iverson a Cowboy fan?

[ncmalko1]

There is ONE reason and one reason only someone would be a Cowboy/Laker fan. If that wasnt true then there would be an equal amount of Lions/Royals fans.

I know its insecurity. I grew up in Philly. Thats all you see everywhere. Thats what EVERYONE is talking about and every single friend is an Eagle fan. But if I jumped out with a Cowboys jersey on and said, "I just like them. It has nothing to do with them winning 5 SB's".. is a COMPLETE lie.

I look like an idiot for saying, "Being a front runner is LAME". Then you're sitting here trying to convince me that the word front runner isnt a word. I obviously touched a sore subject with you but if we put what I said on a non Cowboy board and fans of all 32 teams chimed in EVERYONE would agree with me. All I said is admit it. You chose the Cowboys/Lakers etc cause they are great teams. To act like you picked Dallas to root for some other reason is a COMPLETE lie.

[ncmalko1]

Yeah so is Jay Z, and a million other males who tried to feel good about themselves cause their home team wasnt good. LAME DUDE.

[Jarntt]

Dude you are wrong and don't change the discussion to being a front runner is lame. That was never our discussion

What I said...No kid that just starts watching football and picks a team even considers 5 SBs. The Packers were the winningest team in history, but when they went through their tough times no little kids becoming new Packer fans. It is about the present. People became Cowboy fans in the 70s and 90s. The Cowboys from two years ago had as many all time SB wins as the Cowboys from the 90s. So why weren't there any kids becoming Cowboy fans 2 years ago? Because its not related to history, it's the present and the only recent Cowboy fans were probably attracted to Dez, Romo or Ware, not Aikman.

Second point. Saying that being a fan of a team that isn't closest to you geographically is absolutely not an indicator of not being a real man or being insecure. Your comment indicating this is absolutely idiotic or just meant as a passive aggressive insult and yes, that is what you always do and that is being a drama queen. So is your little attempts like saying we will beat Detroit by 10 points or the Eagles the first game before we played, and then after the game you acted as if the Eagles were much better. You set up a scenario so Dallas and can't win. If we win its because we we're expected to. Then after saying we can't likely lose you'll be on here a week later if we do lose stating how much of a homer someone is for thinking we were the better team after the loss.

I like you as a poster, but you are the king of passive aggressive attacks and yes, you are a Drama queen. You are always the one in the middle of all the drama. Don't take that as an insult because there are much worse things to be, but it's true. Your whole identity of being an Eagle fan on a Cowboy board is drama.

[Jarntt]

Yeah so is Jay Z, and a million other males who tried to feel good about themselves cause their home team wasnt good. LAME DUDE.

You've avoided the Pat Tillman question twice

[ncmalko1]

Well there obviously was a time in TIllmans life being from California he said to himself, "I want to feel like a winner... GO COWBOYS". I respect him for doing what he believed was right but I'm more of a pacifist. My friends arent the military types... Im more of a Berkeley hippie type then a macho war type. Now dont spin this into me being anti American or some nonsense like that. I just think too many kids are enlisting in the military and are coming back with MAJOR mental issues. It MAJORLY sucks that kids are defending our country yet arent getting the psychological support they desperately need when returning to regular life.

[Schmoopy1000]

I still waiting for you to admit your flaw in your thinking of what a true fan is. That's all.

[bluejerseyjinx]

This should be real good, lol.

[Manster7588]

Jarntt, Im not talking about a 6 year old today. Why do the Cowboys have by far the most fans in the NFL? Cause of the internet. Please. Acting like I dont know what Im talking about is laughable. I was talking about someone who is a Laker/Cowboy fan. I dont know where you came up with this idea that I said little kids like the Cowboys because of 20 years ago. Thats not what Im saying. In fact, all Im saying is that I was raised to ONLY root for the home team or the underdog.

Interesting. FYI did you know why NFL Films aproached the Cowboys with the "America's Team" moniker? It was do to their following by fans. In case you don't know "America's Team" is older than the internet. The Internet had absolutely nothing to do with that. Many young fans from today are fans because their dad's are fans. Hell I don't think I knew a person with home Internet when Dallas won in the early 90's, I know I didn't have Internet at the time.

So you are saying that in a very bleak time in Dallas history the Internet brought young fans. Sorry but that is asinine. Why would kids jump on the Dallas band wagon when they can't win. Those Internet kids you speak of would be Patriot or GB fans.

No the internet doesn't build a fan base. Following dad does.