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Re: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 

Post#81 » by californiadude » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:18 pm

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californiadude wrote:I don't think it's crazy to say that maybe 60-75% of the people who posted about Smith were against him signing for a minimum deal even if he wanted to come here...That's crazy. You're getting potential high impact player with pretty much no risk attached. Yet a lot of posters were against it because they were worried about chemistry.


I think maybe the biggest issue with Smith is chemistry and the way we were playing to start the season, it made no sense to make any moves that would upset the applecart. Keep in mind that Smith signed with the Rockets for only $2M (it was reported early on that the Pistons were trying to trade him and his 3 yr 13.5M contract).

Houston used their biannual exception and waived Tarik Black to make it work. We had no biannual since we used our when we signed Livingston using our midlevel exception. That and Smith wouldn'T want to sign with us anyways. Also consider that we would have wound up with a real glut @PF if we brought him in and didn't move anyone.

The other part of it is (as you've pointed out) that many of the posters here hate the dude regardless of the circumstances which is quite common when it comes to certain players. I'm sure Amare would get the same type of reaction but at least that seems a bit more feasible. The other aspect (now) is we've lost a few games so the idea of making a move becomes a bit more of a consideration, however it's not when you're on the top of the world as we were up until recently.

The title of the thread "If it aint broke don't fix it", is quite appropriate imo, but now it may be slightly broke with all the injuries to our bigs. Smith still wouldn't solve our big man problem although Amare might help.


Ok I agree and I think what you said in the last couple sentences is a what I've been trying to say in the last three posts. Just a lot more efficient :). Going back to Smith. I know we probably never had a shot at him so it's not like I'm mad at the FO for not going after him. My point is that even if we did have a shot at him the majority of users were clearly against it. We can argue about Smith's fit but I think he would of definitely been a defensive upgrade over Lee and our offensive system would have taken advantage of his skills (passing/athleticism etc.) and kept his bad habits in check. I just don't understand the logic on saying no to a talented player like that when he comes at a very low risk deal. Yet many would've thought it was crazy too sign him. It's true that Smith most likely wouldn't have solved our big problem and we would have ended up with big time glut at PF. I just feel like Smith is a good cautionary tale or example if you will, for the attitude around here.
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Re: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 

Post#82 » by turk3d » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:36 pm

PowerSteele wrote:They have no additional pick incoming but they have their own.

I think maybe you're right (they do have a pick but very confusing) but Denver may have the right to swap picks (which would effectively nullify any point in tanking).
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Re: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 

Post#83 » by The-Power » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:40 pm

californiadude wrote:I don't think it's crazy to say that maybe 60-75% of the people who posted about Smith were against him signing for a minimum deal even if he wanted to come here...That's crazy.

Every time Smith is on the floor he wants to score. Because he believes he's good at it. It's in his DNA, it's not just bad habits. I wouldn't want him to look for shots if he'd play for my team, so you'd have to bench him almost inevitably in real games. Why would I want him on my team when I know he has no impact (= keep him on the bench) at best? Minimum deal or not frankly doesn't affect the core of the problem at all.
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Re: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 

Post#84 » by turk3d » Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:14 pm

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californiadude wrote:I don't think it's crazy to say that maybe 60-75% of the people who posted about Smith were against him signing for a minimum deal even if he wanted to come here...That's crazy.

Every time Smith is on the floor he wants to score. Because he believes he's good at it. It's in his DNA, it's not just bad habits. I wouldn't want him to look for shots if he'd play for my team, so you'd have to bench him almost inevitably in real games. Why would I want him on my team when I know he has no impact (= keep him on the bench) at best? Minimum deal or not frankly doesn't affect the core of the problem at all.

Looks like you were right about the Knicks pick. The swap is for 2016 and they apparently have this years so we can forget about Amare.
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Re: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 

Post#85 » by Kuya » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:33 pm

Wolves destroyed us with rebounds last night and we've been getting pounded on the glass ever since Bogut went out. We need someone who can clean up the glass, maybe Lee if he sheds some pounds.
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Post#86 » by cdubbz » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:52 pm

Kuya wrote:Wolves destroyed us with rebounds last night and we've been getting pounded on the glass ever since Bogut went out. We need someone who can clean up the glass, maybe Lee if he sheds some pounds.


Box score says Wolves out rebounded us by 4 offensive rebounds. Not too concerned.
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Post#87 » by DynastySS » Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:21 am

Are we really still talking about Smith?

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Post#88 » by turk3d » Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:19 am

Hey if we're interested in going after guys like Smoove, Amare or even Blatche (who might be gettable), why not take a shot @ JR?

Iggy for JR + filler. Might as well if we're interested in going after headcases. He can shoot 3s and supply offense as Klay's backup. lol
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Re: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 

Post#89 » by cdubbz » Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:20 am

turk3d wrote:Hey if we're interested in going after guys like Smoove, Amare or even Blatche (who might be gettable), why not take a shot @ JR?

Iggy for JR + filler. Might as well if we're interested in going after headcases. He can shoot 3s and supply offense as Klay's backup. lol


I don't agree that Amare is a headcase, but this team could definitely use a little fire, attitude from one of the guys other than Draymond.
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Post#90 » by Kuya » Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:40 am

Is Xavier Henry > Leandro Barbosa?
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Post#91 » by cdubbz » Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:56 am

Kuya wrote:Is Xavier Henry > Leandro Barbosa?


Jesus christ man. Xavier Henry is out for the season lol.
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Re: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 

Post#92 » by cj03 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:37 am

stupid lakers just had to claim tarik black
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Post#93 » by ChuckDurn » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:06 pm

cj03 wrote:stupid lakers just had to claim tarik black

They were one of many. It was widely reported that Charlotte was submitting a claim, and they likely would have gotten him if the Lakers hadn't taken him.
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Re: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 

Post#94 » by Darren_Errman » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:41 pm

The trade that makes the most sense is Lee + sweetener for Garnett. Problem is, which player do we throw in as sweetener? Barnes is playing too well. Obviously not Green.

Just because we have a hole in the roster doesn't mean we should announce certain players are on the trade block. Trades are hard to make and right now not a whole of good players available for us to trade for.

Instead of saying "put Iggy and Lee on the trade block", how about tell us some trades that make sense and are realistic?
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Post#95 » by Darren_Errman » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:52 pm

We're not doing any damage in the playoffs with guys like Dalembert or Raduljica starting at center in the playoffs.

Let's get real: without Bogut we're likely a 1st/2nd round exit.

I agree we need a good center in case Bogut gets hurt in the playoffs, but Dalembert, Raduljica, etc. are not the answer.

Warriors need to hold off on the trades for now and wait until more teams make players available for trade.
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Re: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 

Post#96 » by Coxy » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:52 pm

I'm more concerned about screwing with team chemistry right now. If we made a "financial move" and traded a guy that has been vital to the teams organs off the court, we may piss some players off.

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Post#97 » by Onus » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:53 pm

Darren_Errman wrote:The trade that makes the most sense is Lee + sweetener for Garnett. Problem is, which player do we throw in as sweetener? Barnes is playing too well. Obviously not Green.

Just because we have a hole in the roster doesn't mean we should announce certain players are on the trade block. Trades are hard to make and right now not a whole of good players available for us to trade for.

Instead of saying "put Iggy and Lee on the trade block", how about tell us some trades that make sense and are realistic?


i think Garnett would be a great backup for Bogut
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Re: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 

Post#98 » by Ganji » Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:29 pm

It kinda bothers me that front office thinks we have no issue @ PF/C position.
Lakers just signed Tarik Black ( i did not even knew that he was waived ), the dude flat out destroyed Bogut, when we played Rockets. How did Lakers end up with Black and Davis ( for 1 mil ) i have no clue.

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And we missed out on Raduljica as well...
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Post#99 » by watch1958 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:42 pm

Ganji wrote:It kinda bothers me that front office thinks we have no issue @ PF/C position.


When did Myers and Kerr and West tell you that?

Lakers just signed Tarik Black ( i did not even knew that he was waived ), the dude flat out destroyed Bogut, when we played Rockets. How did Lakers end up with Black and Davis ( for 1 mil ) i have no clue.

Wasn't it a waiver pickup? What do you think the Warriors should have done to jump ahead of the Lakers (and all the other bad teams that might have filed waiver claims)?
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Post#100 » by likashing » Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:15 pm

You need to have cap room in order to claim a player off waivers.
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