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Forget about new coach, how about new ownership?

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Forget about new coach, how about new ownership? 

Post#1 » by wco81 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:42 am

I know that isn't likely because it's very hard to lose money in the NFL so the Yorks won't sell unless they want to.

What if Larry Ellison, who's expressed interest in owning and NBA team, came with an outlandish offer?

He's got billions and he isn't exactly young. Then again, he made a lowball offer on the Warriors and was outbid by the current owners, who have a fraction of the money he has.

You can't take it all with you Larry, and you see all the former Microsoft executives, your former rivals in high tech, buying up NBA and NFL teams. Then again, Larry apparently thinks ageing researchers will make a breakthrough allowing him to live for several decades more.

Of course, Larry wouldn't exactly be a hands-off owner. Probably would be more impatient than Jed and may have a quick hook.
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Post#2 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:47 am

If you think York was difficult and needed his rear end kissed, what do you think you are going to get with Ellison?
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Post#3 » by wco81 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:50 am

Yeah Ellison's definitely got a huge ego.

But after this debacle, I'm willing to gamble and I can only think of Ellison being able to spend big money.

Look at what Paul Allen's money has done for the Trailblazers and the Seahawks. And now Steve Ballmer bought the LA Clippers.

At least he got results in the America's Cup competition, presumably let the experienced sailors do their jobs.
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Post#4 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:56 am

Are we REALLY going back to this? I mean REALLY?
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Post#5 » by ChrisPozz » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:37 am

clyde21 wrote:Are we REALLY going back to this? I mean REALLY?


Reminds me of the old ESPN board days - like 2003-2005.
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Post#6 » by 49rangER » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:48 am

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Post#7 » by wco81 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:11 pm

It worked for the Warriors fans, to get rid of Cohan.

If not Ellison, there are so many billionaires around, looking to make their mark, like the Sacramento Kings owner.
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Post#8 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:40 pm

wco81 wrote:It worked for the Warriors fans, to get rid of Cohan.

If not Ellison, there are so many billionaires around, looking to make their mark, like the Sacramento Kings owner.


Nobody got rid of Cohan. Cohan decided to sell the team. No indication the Yorks are going to sell the team anytime soon. It is a moot point.
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Post#9 » by generaldreedle » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:47 pm

Especially after getting a new stadium that will rake in millions.

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Post#10 » by wco81 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:51 pm

Some 49ers season ticket holders were complaining towards middle of November that ticket prices in the secondary market weren't fetching as much as they did before the season started.

That was just after a few home losses.
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If the team reverts to sub 500 records in the next few years, it'll be interesting to see if attendance declines. It never did in the Erickson, Nolan and Singletary years, but the fan base may see any reversion to mediocrity as self-inflicted and may be more inclined to vote with their wallets.
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Post#11 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:41 pm

wco81 wrote:It worked for the Warriors fans, to get rid of Cohan.

If not Ellison, there are so many billionaires around, looking to make their mark, like the Sacramento Kings owner.


And the new owners of the Warriors ended up firing a successful coach in Mark Jackson because they couldn't get along with him. See a similarity with what's going with the 49ers now?

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Post#12 » by zman1 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:46 pm

clyde21 wrote:
wco81 wrote:It worked for the Warriors fans, to get rid of Cohan.

If not Ellison, there are so many billionaires around, looking to make their mark, like the Sacramento Kings owner.


And the new owners of the Warriors ended up firing a successful coach in Mark Jackson because they couldn't get along with him. See a similarity with what's going with the 49ers now?

:roll:


You make it sound easy to replace a successful coach with a more successful coach. Lets just see how this one works out. Color me dubious, very very dubious. This could be one of those "epic fails" that people point back to time and again over the years "Can you believe the Niners really let this guy go?"
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Post#13 » by wco81 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:11 am

Matt Maiocco alluded to some conflict between Harbaugh and Paarag as being one reason Harbaugh is out.

Unbelievable.
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Post#14 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:45 am

wco81 wrote:Matt Maiocco alluded to some conflict between Harbaugh and Paarag as being one reason Harbaugh is out.

Unbelievable.


I was listening to Maiocco about a half hour ago on KNBR. He basically ripped Ratto's comments. He stated despite working in the building, he knows little about what really went on behind the scenes. He also believes it was part football related. That was his speculation. I had to shut the car off and did not hear the rest of what he had to say,
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Post#15 » by wco81 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:57 am

I've seen references to Harbaugh and Paarag clashing.

I read that Paarag impressed John York by showing graphs of which players were good and which weren't so York hired him, paid for him to go to Stanford Business School, while holding an executive position with the 49ers.

Jed apparently came to be close to Paarag as well.

I don't think the president of the 49ers (supposedly Harbaugh supported Gideon Yu for that position, not Paarag) is just adding up salary cap numbers. It sounds like he had say in personnel decisions and Harbaugh probably didn't like analytics from someone without football playing or coaching background being used to make decisions.

Even though he's the owner, Jed probably wouldn't have made the decision to fire Harbaugh if he was the only one who wanted Harbaugh to be gone. He probably had others in the front office who supported that decision.
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Post#16 » by clyde21 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:58 am

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clyde21 wrote:
wco81 wrote:It worked for the Warriors fans, to get rid of Cohan.

If not Ellison, there are so many billionaires around, looking to make their mark, like the Sacramento Kings owner.


And the new owners of the Warriors ended up firing a successful coach in Mark Jackson because they couldn't get along with him. See a similarity with what's going with the 49ers now?

:roll:


You make it sound easy to replace a successful coach with a more successful coach. Lets just see how this one works out. Color me dubious, very very dubious. This could be one of those "epic fails" that people point back to time and again over the years "Can you believe the Niners really let this guy go?"


I'm not trying to make it sound easy at all. In fact, I'm on record saying that not only is this a huge mistake, but I have ZERO faith in this FO to hire anyone even remotely close to what Harbaugh was.

You're missing my damn point.
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Post#17 » by MHSL82 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:33 am

If you haven't seen this, you are either going to hate the word accountability because it means nothing here or wonder if the organization knows what accountability means. Does it mean a few thousand Twitter attacks? Does it mean new GM? Does it mean anything? Lost ticket sales?

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Post#18 » by zman1 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:37 pm

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Post#19 » by zman1 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:24 pm

Commentary: 49ers put ego clashes before winning

"CEO Jed York and general manager Trent Baalke couldn’t stomach Harbaugh, and they’re always going to win the power struggle. So just when the 49ers faithful got accustomed to being a contender, the future of the franchise has been thrown into the sea of uncertainty.

A down year is digestible. An implosion because of Bravo channel-worthy drama is not.

What a shame they couldn’t figure this out. How disappointing it is to watch an era of success, a level of winning this NFL market had missed, come crumbling to an end because of feelings.

It doesn’t bode well for the leadership prospects of the 49ers that they couldn’t salvage this. They didn’t have the wherewithal, the self-sacrifice, to keep a good thing going.

It takes a certain level of audacity to carry out a season-long campaign to oust the popular coach. It takes a significant amount of confidence to think Harbaugh can be replaced and the team will be fine. Why wasn’t all that harnessed into improving the relationship with Harbaugh, into keeping a good thing going?"

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/sports ... re-winning
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Post#20 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:58 pm

zman1 wrote:10 reasons Harbaugh fell out with 49ers. A weak list in my estimation.

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2014/12/23/top-10-reasons-jim-harbaughs-relationship-with-the-49ers-soured/#29369-10


Those are 10 reasons the author THINKS might have caused the 49ers to part ways with harbaugh.

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