"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

[stinger14]

What about a trade with Charlotte?

Hornets get: Lee and Barnes
Warriors get: Al Jefferson and Gerald Henderson

Hornets are not playing well, and are looking to make changes. Big Al has a player option next season and they need to start looking to the future. Barnes could be part of that at the price of paying Lee another year.

Warriors get a low post scoring threat to backup Bogut, and can start at times when Bogut misses time. With all the shooters the Warriors have, Al would be able to dominate one on one matchups in the paint or kick to open shooters if doubled. Henderson provides a nice bench option that can play sg or sf and provide very good defense and score if needed. Gary Neal would probably be an option if Henderson isnt, but Henderson is the better player to get.

[Twinkie defense]

Josh Smith probably wasn't high on the Warriors radar, but anyway he said he would only sign with a team that would make him a starter, plus he is good friends with Dwight. I'm sure Warriors could have trumped the Mavs offer for Rondo, but he's pretty duplicative here, and would be a half-season rental. IDK if Brandon Wright is the right fit - pretty undersized? - but he could be had, would take a pick or promising young guy. KG would be very interesting, great fit, and there is the Boston/Lacob connection. But again that would take a pick or promising young player. Is it worth it to trade them Barnes or a 1st rounder and matching salary? Dubious, unless KG helps get the Warriors a Championship
Right now I think the FO is waiting out Jermaine O'Neal and Ray Allen. And if they miss out on those guys they will look at some fallbacks.

Veterans like Iggy and Lee are useful when the playoffs come around, where young guys often fade. And it's really pretty silly and ignorant to propose trading those guys without also laying out some plausible scenario for what we'd be getting back.

[and1GS]

I think KG comes for peanuts at this point. Dude's playing 20 mpg on a middling Eastern team that could probably make the playoffs without him. Matched salaries and a second rounder might do it. However, he's an expiring and all we could offer is David Lee - not sure if that's worth it.

[Twinkie defense]

KG is expiring, Nets won't want Lee's salary, they are in full rebuilding.

And Amare, are you kidding me? I thought interior defense was the root of the need for a trade?

[Twinkie defense]

AlJeff is Charlottes superstar, don't think they trade him unless you make them a sweet deal.

KG would be perfect but it would take something like a first and expirings or Barnes or Green and expirings. Hard to pull off and maybe not worth it. Just Chillax until Jermaine makes his decision next month.

[turk3d]

Josh Smith probably wasn't high on the Warriors radar, but anyway he said he would only sign with a team that would make him a starter, plus he is good friends with Dwight. I'm sure Warriors could have trumped the Mavs offer for Rondo, but he's pretty duplicative here, and would be a half-season rental. IDK if Brandon Wright is the right fit - pretty undersized? - but he could be had, would take a pick or promising young guy. KG would be very interesting, great fit, and there is the Boston/Lacob connection. But again that would take a pick or promising young player. Is it worth it to trade them Barnes or a 1st rounder and matching salary? Dubious, unless KG helps get the Warriors a Championship
Right now I think the FO is waiting out Jermaine O'Neal and Ray Allen. And if they miss out on those guys they will look at some fallbacks.

Veterans like Iggy and Lee are useful when the playoffs come around, where young guys often fade. And it's really pretty silly and ignorant to propose trading those guys without also laying out some plausible scenario for what we'd be getting back.

I'm not too sure that KG could really help us. He barely earns the 20 minutes he's getting. Old KG, yes, but even older KG, no thanks.

The only thing he does is shave off a year of Lee's deal. As a Center, don't thin so. Probably no better than Mo and probably not as good as Festus.

[DynastySS]

How bout we wait for Bogut to come back?

[oaktownwarriors87]

Since Lee has come back that Warriors are allowing 113.1 points per 100 possessions... with Lee off the court. With Lee they allow 92.5.


Call me crazy but I'm thinking the Warriors recent issues are non-David Lee related.

[turk3d]

I imagine that our recent uptick in points allowed have something to do with Ezeli, out backup Center MIA. He's our best defender @ Center with Bogut out.

[Mylie10]

Since Lee has come back that Warriors are allowing 113.1 points per 100 possessions... with Lee off the court. With Lee they allow 92.5.


Call me crazy but I'm thinking the Warriors recent issues are non-David Lee related.

you always come in with some ridiculously great stat. Keep em coming.

[The-Power]

What about a trade with Charlotte?

Hornets get: Lee and Barnes
Warriors get: Al Jefferson and Gerald Henderson

Hornets are not playing well, and are looking to make changes. Big Al has a player option next season and they need to start looking to the future. Barnes could be part of that at the price of paying Lee another year.

Warriors get a low post scoring threat to backup Bogut, and can start at times when Bogut misses time. With all the shooters the Warriors have, Al would be able to dominate one on one matchups in the paint or kick to open shooters if doubled. Henderson provides a nice bench option that can play sg or sf and provide very good defense and score if needed. Gary Neal would probably be an option if Henderson isnt, but Henderson is the better player to get.

I wouldn't want Big Al for free to be honest, let alone give up anything of value. We need a defensive-minded Center more than a low post threat and Jefferson can't even defend a rolling apple. He doesn't fit into our system and doesn't meet the established criteria in my book.

He'd play with our second unit most of the time which doesn't contain great shooters and even if so, I don't think a low post play every now and then is worth the inevitable arising problems. Bogut's history with injuries is somewhat concerning, but let's face it: if Big Al is our insurance, we have not the slightest chance to contend. Easy no for my part.

[stinger14]

What about a trade with Charlotte?

Hornets get: Lee and Barnes
Warriors get: Al Jefferson and Gerald Henderson

Hornets are not playing well, and are looking to make changes. Big Al has a player option next season and they need to start looking to the future. Barnes could be part of that at the price of paying Lee another year.

Warriors get a low post scoring threat to backup Bogut, and can start at times when Bogut misses time. With all the shooters the Warriors have, Al would be able to dominate one on one matchups in the paint or kick to open shooters if doubled. Henderson provides a nice bench option that can play sg or sf and provide very good defense and score if needed. Gary Neal would probably be an option if Henderson isnt, but Henderson is the better player to get.

I wouldn't want Big Al for free to be honest, let alone give up anything of value. We need a defensive-minded Center more than a low post threat and Jefferson can't even defend a rolling apple. He doesn't fit into our system and doesn't meet the established criteria in my book.

He'd play with our second unit most of the time which doesn't contain great shooters and even if so, I don't think a low post play every now and then is worth the inevitable arising problems. Bogut's history with injuries is somewhat concerning, but let's face it: if Big Al is our insurance, we have not the slightest chance to contend. Easy no for my part.

While I respect and may agree with several of your opinions, look at it this way. Al is terrible defensively, but he is not any worse than Lee, because Lee is terrible. Al is better than Lee offensively, and rebounding is pretty even. Al will play the second team while having a great attitude. However, he would opt out to look for one last contract and a starting job somewhere. Thus, by getting Al and sending Lee away, the Warriors get cap help at seasons end. Henderson also more than likely opts out to find a lengthier contract, that is almost $20 million in cap flexibility for the Warriors.

Hornets take on extra year of Lee to acquire Barnes for the future. By sending out Al, the young guys like Biz, Zeller, and Vonleh can get much needed playing time and experience

[cdubbz]

Josh Smith probably wasn't high on the Warriors radar, but anyway he said he would only sign with a team that would make him a starter, plus he is good friends with Dwight. I'm sure Warriors could have trumped the Mavs offer for Rondo, but he's pretty duplicative here, and would be a half-season rental. IDK if Brandon Wright is the right fit - pretty undersized? - but he could be had, would take a pick or promising young guy. KG would be very interesting, great fit, and there is the Boston/Lacob connection. But again that would take a pick or promising young player. Is it worth it to trade them Barnes or a 1st rounder and matching salary? Dubious, unless KG helps get the Warriors a Championship
Right now I think the FO is waiting out Jermaine O'Neal and Ray Allen. And if they miss out on those guys they will look at some fallbacks.

Veterans like Iggy and Lee are useful when the playoffs come around, where young guys often fade. And it's really pretty silly and ignorant to propose trading those guys without also laying out some plausible scenario for what we'd be getting back.

I'm not too sure that KG could really help us. He barely earns the 20 minutes he's getting. Old KG, yes, but even older KG, no thanks.

The only thing he does is shave off a year of Lee's deal. As a Center, don't thin so. Probably no better than Mo and probably not as good as Festus.

Well Andre Igluedola for KG works straight up. Not real enticing for the Nets to do so though unless. I do think KG can still be useful on a good team. I can see an impactful 20 mpg on the Warriors over the Nets simply because Warriors are on a level to possibly come out of the Western converence. Plus we can use another crazy guy on the team that will mix things up with the opponents.

[FNQ]

Since Lee has come back that Warriors are allowing 113.1 points per 100 possessions... with Lee off the court. With Lee they allow 92.5.


Call me crazy but I'm thinking the Warriors recent issues are non-David Lee related.

How bout we wait for Bogut to come back?

This thread has tons of ideas that make it obvious that waiting is the best course of action. Can we trade Iguodala and Lee for scrubs yet tho? I have a feeling that's the missing ingredient to a championship season

[californiadude]

I don't think we should trade Iggy/Lee for scrubs.

What about Iggy for Brook Lopez?

We cut off 12 mil in 2017 for Barnes extension and take a chance on a 7 footer.

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[Darren_Errman]

Some of the comments here are really funny.

Are we really tripping over the Lakers getting Tarik Black?? Tarik Black??????

Brook Lopez? Serious? He's 2x more injury prone than Bogut.

I scratch my head a lot when I come here.

We don't settle for the least-worst of the available bunch. We wait until the trade market opens up more attractive options. Does anybody here have a gun pointed at his head? Then why must we make a trade now? GS is 25-5, #1 in the NBA. Relax. We have time. Black, Lopez, Dalembert, etc. are not going to take this team further in the playoffs. Why would we want those guys? Roster spots are scarce. We don't have 18 roster spots. We can only bring in 1 or 2 guys. Be picky. Be patient.

[Ganji]

When did Myers and Kerr and West tell you that?

When they don't do crap and talk about team chemistry.

Wasn't it a waiver pickup? What do you think the Warriors should have done to jump ahead of the Lakers (and all the other bad teams that might have filed waiver claims)?

Lakers have bigger salary payroll then we do, so it was just fail on our part.

[Mylie10]

When did Myers and Kerr and West tell you that?

When they don't do crap and talk about team chemistry.

Wasn't it a waiver pickup? What do you think the Warriors should have done to jump ahead of the Lakers (and all the other bad teams that might have filed waiver claims)?

Lakers have bigger salary payroll then we do, so it was just fail on our part.

It goes by record...not team salaries.....since we have the best record we're last in line.....I could be wrong, but.....

[Mylie10]

Oh and the Lakers had to have enough room under their cap to sign him, or if the team cannot fit that player under their cap, they can't claim said player.

If a big time player gets waived, most likely that player will clear waivers...which means no team signing him after clearing waivers will have to pay his original salary except the team waiving him. At that time the player can then negotiate with other team's and sign for whatever is agreed upon, as long as the new team can fit in under their cap.

[FNQ]

They can also use TEs