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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1841 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:00 am

MasterIchiro wrote:We are merely peeling off Cho's bandaid and getting a glimpse of his wound.


If Biyombo doesn't play well Cho's job is in severe jeopardy. Let alone how awful Vonleh played tonight in the D League. Zeller has been terrible lately, and MKG still can't consistently hit a jump shot.
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1842 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:01 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:We are merely peeling off Cho's bandaid and getting a glimpse of his wound.


If Biyombo doesn't play well Cho's job is in severe jeopardy. Let alone how awful Vonleh played tonight in the D League. Zeller has been terrible lately, and MKG still can't consistently hit a jump shot.


Let's take a peek under the hood.
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1843 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:04 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:We are merely peeling off Cho's bandaid and getting a glimpse of his wound.


If Biyombo doesn't play well Cho's job is in severe jeopardy. Let alone how awful Vonleh played tonight in the D League. Zeller has been terrible lately, and MKG still can't consistently hit a jump shot.


Let's take a peek under the hood.


I can't wait until we get a top 5 pick and draft another massive project like karl anthony towns. This team is just pissing me off at this point. Trade for shooters, draft shooters, do anything you can to get people who can catch, and shoot a basketball. Off topic at this point, but damn.
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1844 » by Diop » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:08 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:We are merely peeling off Cho's bandaid and getting a glimpse of his wound.


If Biyombo doesn't play well Cho's job is in severe jeopardy. Let alone how awful Vonleh played tonight in the D League. Zeller has been terrible lately, and MKG still can't consistently hit a jump shot.

Zeller is the big one for me. He had his pick of the litter and even had an argument with the owner to select his man. It was a big call then and its really beginning to haunt him.
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1845 » by Diop » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:09 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Off topic at this point, but damn.

good point, I got sucked into it as well.
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1846 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:11 am

How this team plays without Al Jefferson is a reflection of Cho's drafting, team building and Clifford's coaching. This is fascinating stuff! How can anyone fear change when we can't possibly get any worse?
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1847 » by Braggins » Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:24 am

I'm glad Al is gone for a while but I must say that his toughness and desire to play is quite impressive.
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1848 » by LamarMatic7 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:12 am

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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1849 » by Bassman » Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:24 pm

fatlever wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Not going to lie. Im much more interested in watching our games now with him out, although we will be worse. Im very, very intrigued to see what Biyombo can do as a starter over 15 games or so.


kemba's life is about to get much worse as teams blitz him with two defenders pretty much every time he touches the ball. getting lance back can help give us another ball handler to attack the aggressive perimeter traps we will face.

time to push the tempo as much as possible.


Agree that tempo is one key way to utilize this turn of events. Not sure we can do that, as according to Clifford all the teaching and game planning and practice are installed before the season. Without having the offense run through Al, what now? I guess we'll run it through Biz?? :lol:
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1850 » by W_HAMILTON » Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:33 pm

Bassman wrote:Agree that tempo is one key way to utilize this turn of events. Not sure we can do that, as according to Clifford all the teaching and game planning and practice are installed before the season. Without having the offense run through Al, what now? I guess we'll run it through Biz?? :lol:


It's a little worrying. Sure, it will be interesting to see if they can play more up tempo and drive more in the half-court set; however, at the same time, look how horrible our offense was (don't even mention our defense...) to start OT in the Bucks game? Watching their offense, it seemed almost hopeless.

I think we could have some success if we try to be more of a running/penetration team, but I fear that we will end up getting bogged down in a half-court offense and we will look as bad as we did early in that OT.
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1851 » by EwingSweatsALot » Wed Dec 31, 2014 3:10 pm

Finally get to see what a few of us have been clammoring for. Though I would prefer it had been more from a trade than an injury. We lose a top 2-3 player on our team and get nothing and return.

Maybe it's the Ewing/Gay theory and this works or maybe it's just Al doesnt fit our players and we needed a guy in his spot that does.

Will Clifford change up our tempo? Our offense has to because we have no one in the post, but will we still play slow? Will we still halt on fast breaks?

We now have a full team of long, athletic, defensive guys. Will we use this to our advantage? Will we get back to our defensive mentality? Will we run on missed shots and turnovers?

A lot of questions with how Clifford will handle this.

Preferably we need to run on missed shots, run on turnovers and in half court run a lot of PnRs and PnPs with our bigs. I don't think our pace needs to increase, but we need to take advantage of our athleticism which we haven't done the last year and a half.

With our lineup now we might be a top 5 athletic team, until Maxiell gets 25 minutes a game. We may be devoid in talent but you can overwhelm teams in athleticism. It will be interesting to see if we do it.

How will we finish games now? Do we still go offense even though our second best weapon is out? Or do we keep Biz and Cody in and try to get stops and hope Kemba can win it for us(what we do anyway).

Was it really a Lance Al issue? Will we find that out when Lance comes back?

How much will Vonleh play? Will MKG get more minutes since we might go small? Will he get more minutes because we should be more defensive?

A lot of questions go into this because the guy that our offense is built around is gone and all 12 other guys don't play any style like him.

I have a feeling though that Clifford will still try to be offensive and we will see too many shooters who can't really shoot and are awful defensively because he thinks we now need more offense. So lets put our midget lineup out there for 10 minutes a game and some in crunch time because we have to score to win and we get blown out constantly.
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1852 » by BobsBuddy » Wed Dec 31, 2014 3:26 pm

:( :( :o :o Look at my post on the Rich Cho thread.Al maybe tradeable even if hurt. OR we maybe able to trade Lance for a Center?
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1854 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:18 pm

W_HAMILTON wrote:
Bassman wrote:Agree that tempo is one key way to utilize this turn of events. Not sure we can do that, as according to Clifford all the teaching and game planning and practice are installed before the season. Without having the offense run through Al, what now? I guess we'll run it through Biz?? :lol:


It's a little worrying. Sure, it will be interesting to see if they can play more up tempo and drive more in the half-court set; however, at the same time, look how horrible our offense was (don't even mention our defense...) to start OT in the Bucks game? Watching their offense, it seemed almost hopeless.

I think we could have some success if we try to be more of a running/penetration team, but I fear that we will end up getting bogged down in a half-court offense and we will look as bad as we did early in that OT.


Hey W, so this is where you hang out. Sorry to hear about Big Al. But given this unfortunate circumstance, seems to be you guys need some low post scoring. Can I interest you in one Mr. Amare Stoudemire?
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1855 » by ball teacher » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:41 pm

This is terrible, we're now left with Kemba who'll only shoot more and most likely have terrible field goal percentage while doing so, well see Hendo also shoot more, we'll see more small ball due to Cliff relying on Neal and Roberts to be scorers...smh, losing Al is terrible news. We looked bad without MKG, but Al settled things down by his post presence, we had a solid 17-20 points he gave us every night, this is very bad. We should try and move Lance and Vonleh or Cody for a big or our season maybe over.
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1856 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:45 pm

OR our season may be over? OR?
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1857 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:47 pm

Seasons over. No need in trying to trade young assets for a big that will just make us even more mediocre. If you're going to suck be great at it.
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Re: Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1858 » by JDR720 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:49 pm

our season has been over, its been 30 something games and we have 10 wins. If we panic and trade any young players i will literally lose my mind.
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