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kblo247 · Post #161 » by **kblo247** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:35 am

bws94 wrote:Why does coach like Lin inbounding the ball late in games?

Why is Ed out there when you need 3 over Wayne?

Kupchak9 · Post #162 » by **Kupchak9** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:45 am

kblo247 wrote:
bws94 wrote:Why does coach like Lin inbounding the ball late in games?

Why is Ed out there when you need 3 over Wayne?

Who sets the pick for Kobe to get an open look?

kblo247 · Post #163 » by **kblo247** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 8:36 am

Kupchak9 wrote:
kblo247 wrote:
bws94 wrote:Why does coach like Lin inbounding the ball late in games?

Why is Ed out there when you need 3 over Wayne?

Who sets the pick for Kobe to get an open look?

Small to small for a switch like Kobe and fish. Preferably nick and Kobe

Worst case marc wrecks the small screener before an inbounds for fts

cw3k · Post #164 » by **cw3k** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 1:44 pm

Lakers played a great game. Kobe played great and he get everyone involved. The area needed to work on is defend the PnR.

It is not just Lin got the hit. Look how many points were scored by their big rolled off a PnR.

Post #165 » by **crazyeights** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 4:27 pm

IIRC we only had 2 timeouts left. We were only down 1. I agree with not extending the game more than one more possession.

We had two chances to win/tie after that point. The worst thing would be to not have a timeout left to advance the ball.

The problem is the fact that the team wasn't aware of that strategy beforehand.

Tonyism74 · Post #166 » by **Tonyism74** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 5:16 pm

crazyeights wrote:IIRC we only had 2 timeouts left. We were only down 1. I agree with not extending the game more than one more possession.

We had two chances to win/tie after that point. The worst thing would be to not have a timeout left to advance the ball.

The problem is the fact that the team wasn't aware of that strategy beforehand.

This was actually a god strategy.

Tonyism74 · Post #167 » by **Tonyism74** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 5:28 pm

kblo247 wrote:
crazyeights wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/KevinDing/status/551260860723634176[/tweet]

Maybe the timeout situation? Didn't want to lengthen the game too much? IDK....

Clock was damn near even ... and ... Lin was doing nothing. Okay if y6oure going to waste time, but at least try to steal the ball over looking

I watched the whole game..Kobe was screaming to foul with a little less than 20 seconds left. I dont know which game you were watching. There are only a few guys in the league that can go against their coach regularly, and it aint Lin. Lin heard Kobe and that is why Lin kept looking back at Scott to confirm...way above the 10 second mark, which tells me that Lin was not only listening to coach, but he was also cognizant of the fact that Kobe was screaming at him. Lin did what coach wanted...and kept confirming.

I liked the overall effort of the team, I think for the most part, everyone played well. Kobe getting worked up when a call doesent go his way, and of course, not getting irate with your players is something I would like to see less. All in all, I think Kobe is making the right plays, and getting his team more involved. He is still going to have to learn that not everyone is as good as he is, and that Lin and company will continue to be knuckleheads here and there...but public displays of anger should be limited.

EdXDavis21 · Post #168 » by **EdXDavis21** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 5:49 pm

bws94 wrote:What's wrong with Hill? He hasn't been playing very well in most recent games.

Probably knows.... he might get traded in the next few weeks... I also wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Gasol and suffers some sort of last minute injury to make a trade harder to get done.....

at the very least... Lin is doing a good job raising his trade value... and he still has that large expiring deal that will make teams interested.

MAMBAEMD · Post #169 » by **MAMBAEMD** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 5:56 pm

I thought we played very well.
We were very competitive and played hard.

I thought we should have fouled Conley earlier, but understand what BScott is saying about the time-out situation.
I still would have fouled earlier and put the pressure on their foul shooters to make the free throws.

Post #170 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:50 pm

EdXDavis21 wrote:
bws94 wrote:What's wrong with Hill? He hasn't been playing very well in most recent games.

Probably knows.... he might get traded in the next few weeks... I also wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Gasol and suffers some sort of last minute injury to make a trade harder to get done.....

at the very least... Lin is doing a good job raising his trade value... and he still has that large expiring deal that will make teams interested.

He can just refuse to be traded if he wanted to. He has a de facto no trade clause cause of the 1 yr deal he signed.

leeprettyp · Post #171 » by **leeprettyp** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:32 pm

I don't understand why so many people are against bringing Lin back at a reasonable dollar to be our backup PG going forward. Paying Lin 4-6mill a season would be a solid pickup. He's a GREAT backup combo guard

bws94 · Post #172 » by **bws94** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 8:12 pm

leeprettyp wrote:I don't understand why so many people are against bringing Lin back at a reasonable dollar to be our backup PG going forward. Paying Lin 4-6mill a season would be a solid pickup. He's a GREAT backup combo guard

Lin is not going to accept that, he wants to be a starter or at least a player that gets 30 mpg and is in at the end closing games. He will also want to make around 8-9 mill a year probably but would take less if he liked the team. He likes LA and the Lakers, I don't think he loves the coach or thinks the system is good for him long-term. So, I don't see him staying beyond the season.

EdXDavis21 · Post #173 » by **EdXDavis21** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 8:38 pm

dockingsched wrote:He can just refuse to be traded if he wanted to. He has a de facto no trade clause cause of the 1 yr deal he signed.

I'm sure he won't mind getting traded to a team that is in contention for a playoff spot.... he knows hes not gonna be here for the long-term..... so he might want to go to a team that will give him a long-term commitment.

Post #174 » by **Slava** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 10:13 pm

bws94 wrote:
leeprettyp wrote:I don't understand why so many people are against bringing Lin back at a reasonable dollar to be our backup PG going forward. Paying Lin 4-6mill a season would be a solid pickup. He's a GREAT backup combo guard

Lin is not going to accept that, he wants to be a starter or at least a player that gets 30 mpg and is in at the end closing games. He will also want to make around 8-9 mill a year probably but would take less if he liked the team. He likes LA and the Lakers, I don't think he loves the coach or thinks the system is good for him long-term. So, I don't see him staying beyond the season.

If it took a first round pick to get rid of a contract there's a very good chance you won't be getting that contract again in free agency. Nothing wrong with trying though. He could be starting at a place like Detroit if Jennings screws up his chance this season. Would also be a good fit in Milwaukee but not sure if he's Kidd's idea of a PG.

Post #175 » by **Slava** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 10:15 pm

crazyeights wrote:IIRC we only had 2 timeouts left. We were only down 1. I agree with not extending the game more than one more possession.

We had two chances to win/tie after that point. The worst thing would be to not have a timeout left to advance the ball.

The problem is the fact that the team wasn't aware of that strategy beforehand.

We could always have run the clock and start the action at 10 second if that's what he wanted. That was just a terrible job of coaching in that situation. No two ways about it.

leeprettyp · Post #176 » by **leeprettyp** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 10:30 pm

Slava wrote:
bws94 wrote:
leeprettyp wrote:I don't understand why so many people are against bringing Lin back at a reasonable dollar to be our backup PG going forward. Paying Lin 4-6mill a season would be a solid pickup. He's a GREAT backup combo guard

Lin is not going to accept that, he wants to be a starter or at least a player that gets 30 mpg and is in at the end closing games. He will also want to make around 8-9 mill a year probably but would take less if he liked the team. He likes LA and the Lakers, I don't think he loves the coach or thinks the system is good for him long-term. So, I don't see him staying beyond the season.

If it took a first round pick to get rid of a contract there's a very good chance you won't be getting that contract again in free agency. Nothing wrong with trying though. He could be starting at a place like Detroit if Jennings screws up his chance this season. Would also be a good fit in Milwaukee but not sure if he's Kidd's idea of a PG.

I just dont see any team paying Lin that type of money. He's not an NBA starting PG on a contending team IMO

ChokeFasncists · Post #177 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 11:21 pm

So, Kobe vs Scott

Lin gets blamed

Kobe should apologize for making a scene

Post #178 » by **Slava** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 11:29 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:So, Kobe vs Scott

Lin gets blamed

Kobe should apologize for making a scene

He should be whipped and have his wounds salted for antagonizing Lin.

Post #179 » by **crazyeights** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 11:32 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:So, Kobe vs Scott

Lin gets blamed

Kobe should apologize for making a scene

Keep drinking the Kool Aide. This is a coaching issue:

Either by not preparing the team to his own strategy, or simply a dumb mistake.

Kobe just hit a huge shot, made the foul off his man, and then got a key rebound, and then tried to spoon feed Ed, and then tried to bail us out with an in-line improbable shot.

"Apologize for making a scene?" We're talking about professional sports, not a group therapy session.

"a scene?" seriously?

Is that you, Jeremy?

ChokeFasncists · Post #180 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 11:39 pm

leeprettyp wrote:
Slava wrote:
bws94 wrote:
Lin is not going to accept that, he wants to be a starter or at least a player that gets 30 mpg and is in at the end closing games. He will also want to make around 8-9 mill a year probably but would take less if he liked the team. He likes LA and the Lakers, I don't think he loves the coach or thinks the system is good for him long-term. So, I don't see him staying beyond the season.

If it took a first round pick to get rid of a contract there's a very good chance you won't be getting that contract again in free agency. Nothing wrong with trying though. He could be starting at a place like Detroit if Jennings screws up his chance this season. Would also be a good fit in Milwaukee but not sure if he's Kidd's idea of a PG.

I just dont see any team paying Lin that type of money. He's not an NBA starting PG on a contending team IMO

Well, he has shown that with the right situation he can average 17/7. IMO it's about fit and if there's a GM that believe he can become more consistent and less mistake prone down the road.

OTOH, it's also about his play this season. If he can somewhat consistently play like the last game, which he is capable of if his head is right, he could get paid again. And it probably will be less about immediate impact, more about long term.