Frank Kaminsky

[ManualRam]

He can't defend PF in the NBA. He is too large and slow for that.

He can play a stretch C like Frye, but his shot right now is too poor to be effective.

I don't get why people have him in the lotto. He was crap early in his career and is playing well this year only because he is much more skilled and physically dominant, an indication of a skill plateau.

His best case is Hawes. I don't think any lotto team is that desperate for a medium floor, low ceiling center prospect.

he actually defends well in space. i wouldn't call him slow. he's yet another one of those guys who grew up a guard and had a late big growth spurt. he's always been mobile, his issue athleticially was that he was weak. he's not dominating physically, but he is skilled.

he's 7', mobile and skilled. who cares how he started?
and fwiw frye is playing PF. frank's also shooting 42% from 3

i dont think he's lotto either

[noobcake]

He can't defend PF in the NBA. He is too large and slow for that.

He can play a stretch C like Frye, but his shot right now is too poor to be effective.

I don't get why people have him in the lotto. He was crap early in his career and is playing well this year only because he is much more skilled and physically dominant, an indication of a skill plateau.

His best case is Hawes. I don't think any lotto team is that desperate for a medium floor, low ceiling center prospect.

he actually defends well in space. i wouldn't call him slow. he's yet another one of those guys who grew up a guard and had a late big growth spurt. he's always been mobile, his issue athleticially was that he was weak. he's not dominating physically, but he is skilled.

he's 7', mobile and skilled. who cares how he started?
and fwiw frye is playing PF. frank's also shooting 42% from 3

i dont think he's lotto either

That is the short college 3 against teams with essentially 0 experience playing against 7 shooters can camp the perimeter, while having a good 4-6 inches on most nights on his defender.

He has only had 33 shots this year. That is barely anything.

[ManualRam]

He can't defend PF in the NBA. He is too large and slow for that.

He can play a stretch C like Frye, but his shot right now is too poor to be effective.

I don't get why people have him in the lotto. He was crap early in his career and is playing well this year only because he is much more skilled and physically dominant, an indication of a skill plateau.

His best case is Hawes. I don't think any lotto team is that desperate for a medium floor, low ceiling center prospect.

he actually defends well in space. i wouldn't call him slow. he's yet another one of those guys who grew up a guard and had a late big growth spurt. he's always been mobile, his issue athleticially was that he was weak. he's not dominating physically, but he is skilled.

he's 7', mobile and skilled. who cares how he started?
and fwiw frye is playing PF. frank's also shooting 42% from 3

i dont think he's lotto either

That is the short college 3 against teams with essentially 0 experience playing against 7 shooters can camp the perimeter, while having a good 4-6 inches on most nights on his defender.

He has only had 33 shots this year. That is barely anything.

how many bigs are good at getting out on 3 point shooting bigs, at any level? not many, hence the value of the stretch big.
you don't like that sample size? fine, 38% combined with last yr. there are a few things i doubt about frank's game translating. his shooting isn't one of them and i would definitely not label his shot poor. "poor" shooting bigs wouldn't even attempt college 3's.

[Laimbeer]

Very poor man's lamarcus Aldridge.

I can't imagine being that poor.

[Johnlac1]

He can't defend PF in the NBA. He is too large and slow for that.

He can play a stretch C like Frye, but his shot right now is too poor to be effective.

I don't get why people have him in the lotto. He was crap early in his career and is playing well this year only because he is much more skilled and physically dominant, an indication of a skill plateau.

His best case is Hawes. I don't think any lotto team is that desperate for a medium floor, low ceiling center prospect.

he actually defends well in space. i wouldn't call him slow. he's yet another one of those guys who grew up a guard and had a late big growth spurt. he's always been mobile, his issue athleticially was that he was weak. he's not dominating physically, but he is skilled.

he's 7', mobile and skilled. who cares how he started?
and fwiw frye is playing PF. frank's also shooting 42% from 3

i dont think he's lotto either

I'm a big Badger fan, and I wonder about the lotto thing too. But again, looking at Kelly Olynyk, I can see a place for Frank. Many people are looking for superstars in the draft. Maybe just being able to help some team should be the thought. I think Olynyk is a little more mobile, but if Frank can play center without being overwhelmed, he's going to give a lot of teams problems trying to guard him given his ability to play inside and outside.

[Johnlac1]

he actually defends well in space. i wouldn't call him slow. he's yet another one of those guys who grew up a guard and had a late big growth spurt. he's always been mobile, his issue athleticially was that he was weak. he's not dominating physically, but he is skilled.

he's 7', mobile and skilled. who cares how he started?
and fwiw frye is playing PF. frank's also shooting 42% from 3

i dont think he's lotto either

That is the short college 3 against teams with essentially 0 experience playing against 7 shooters can camp the perimeter, while having a good 4-6 inches on most nights on his defender.

He has only had 33 shots this year. That is barely anything.

how many bigs are good at getting out on 3 point shooting bigs, at any level? not many, hence the value of the stretch big.
you don't like that sample size? fine, 38% combined with last yr. there are a few things i doubt about frank's game translating. his shooting isn't one of them and i would definitely not label his shot poor. "poor" shooting bigs wouldn't even attempt college 3's.

As far as outside shooting, I would think Frank would be the best outside shooting center in the league....better than OLynyk who is shooting over 40% beyond the three point line this year. He has excellent form.

[ManualRam]

He can't defend PF in the NBA. He is too large and slow for that.

He can play a stretch C like Frye, but his shot right now is too poor to be effective.

I don't get why people have him in the lotto. He was crap early in his career and is playing well this year only because he is much more skilled and physically dominant, an indication of a skill plateau.

His best case is Hawes. I don't think any lotto team is that desperate for a medium floor, low ceiling center prospect.

he actually defends well in space. i wouldn't call him slow. he's yet another one of those guys who grew up a guard and had a late big growth spurt. he's always been mobile, his issue athleticially was that he was weak. he's not dominating physically, but he is skilled.

he's 7', mobile and skilled. who cares how he started?
and fwiw frye is playing PF. frank's also shooting 42% from 3

i dont think he's lotto either

I'm a big Badger fan, and I wonder about the lotto thing too. But again, looking at Kelly Olynyk, I can see a place for Frank. Many people are looking for superstars in the draft. Maybe just being able to help some team should be the thought. I think Olynyk is a little more mobile, but if Frank can play center without being overwhelmed, he's going to give a lot of teams problems trying to guard him given his ability to play inside and outside.

olynyk has more offensive versatility with better ball skills and a bigger bag of tricks, but i disagree that he's more mobile than kaminsky. defensively he sucked in college and is even worse in the pros. kaminsky's more mobile defensively, with better balance and agility. kelly's a mess trying to track and change directions laterally.

[Kevin Willis]

How is Kaminsky doing this year? I know Dekker needs to get better but in terms of game play - how is his game looking?

[Johnlac1]

How is Kaminsky doing this year? I know Dekker needs to get better but in terms of game play - how is his game looking?

Real good. He didn't have a great game against Duke... but neither did Okafur. They sort of cancelled each other out. To me, he looks better than last year. Again, it's kind of difficult to believe how much better he is than two years ago.

[SBM]

He has improved over his career but I am not really a fan. He really did not rebound well enough for my liking early in his career. He is another pick and pop, stretch big, he will probably make someones team, but I don't think he will be a rotation player throughout his career.

[god4gives]

Besides OK4, Kaminsky is the best C/PF. Better than Towns, Cauley-Stein, & Turner

[Marcus]

Besides OK4, Kaminsky is the best C/PF. Better than Towns, Cauley-Stein, & Turner

in terms of being more complete right now? yeah i think so too.

[EMG518]

I think he is getting a bit too much hype. I would certainly take him in the 1st round but I wouldnt be looking at him in the lottery. I think he could be a nice pick around 20.

[god4gives]

I think he is getting a bit too much hype. I would certainly take him in the 1st round but I wouldnt be looking at him in the lottery. I think he could be a nice pick around 20.

nah, not as much hype as Towns or Turner who I think should stay in school to develop their game. None of those guys including Cauley-Stein have a better all around game like Kaminsky. I will dare to say Kaminsky has a better defensive game than OK4.

[Ruzious]

I think he is getting a bit too much hype. I would certainly take him in the 1st round but I wouldnt be looking at him in the lottery. I think he could be a nice pick around 20.

nah, not as much hype as Towns or Turner who I think should stay in school to develop their game. None of those guys including Cauley-Stein have a better all around game like Kaminsky. I will dare to say Kaminsky has a better defensive game than OK4.

I like Kaminsky, but I'd be surprised if he's not bullied by most NBA bigs. I think he's a 4 who can play a little 5. Towns and Turner are both far better prospects, imo. Turner reminds me so much of LMA.

[20110913]

I think he is getting a bit too much hype. I would certainly take him in the 1st round but I wouldnt be looking at him in the lottery. I think he could be a nice pick around 20.

you think Frank Kaminsky is as same as Kristaps Porzingis , maybe Frank Kaminsky is better, right?

[20110913]

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Fra ... 066/stats/

look at 3P shots of his rookie and 2nd year in ncaa, he is not a natural shooter
He need 2 or 3 years to adapt 3P line in NBA. whether he is pf or C, quick or slow.
and if he can not shoot, how much is his value? at that time ,can he better than Jeff Withey? OMG, you forgot the kansas hero?

another NCAA hero, NBA disaster?

[20110913]

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[god4gives]

I think he is getting a bit too much hype. I would certainly take him in the 1st round but I wouldnt be looking at him in the lottery. I think he could be a nice pick around 20.

nah, not as much hype as Towns or Turner who I think should stay in school to develop their game. None of those guys including Cauley-Stein have a better all around game like Kaminsky. I will dare to say Kaminsky has a better defensive game than OK4.

I like Kaminsky, but I'd be surprised if he's not bullied by most NBA bigs. I think he's a 4 who can play a little 5. Towns and Turner are both far better prospects, imo. Turner reminds me so much of LMA.

I like Towns & Turner as well but their game isn't complete. I think they should stay in school and develop their game some more like Kaminsky did. I do agree that Kaminsky has to get stronger and I think that will eventually happen. He still has good size at 7' 0" 245. It doesn't matter what position. Some days he will be able to play Center and some days power forward. Towns has the strength which he is still growing into but his skill set isn't polished and complete compared to Kaminsky's.

[HeartBreakKid]

nah, not as much hype as Towns or Turner who I think should stay in school to develop their game. None of those guys including Cauley-Stein have a better all around game like Kaminsky. I will dare to say Kaminsky has a better defensive game than OK4.

I like Kaminsky, but I'd be surprised if he's not bullied by most NBA bigs. I think he's a 4 who can play a little 5. Towns and Turner are both far better prospects, imo. Turner reminds me so much of LMA.

I like Towns & Turner as well but their game isn't complete. I think they should stay in school and develop their game some more like Kaminsky did. I do agree that Kaminsky has to get stronger and I think that will eventually happen. He still has good size at 7' 0" 245. It doesn't matter what position. Some days he will be able to play Center and some days power forward. Towns has the strength which he is still growing into but his skill set isn't polished and complete compared to Kaminsky's.

Why would lotto picks stay in college to develop their game, when they would just develop their game against the pros?

This idea that people develop their game faster in college vs the greatest league in the world in the NBA is utterly bizarre.