Jeff Green Traded to the Memphis Grizzlies (official woj tweet page 1)

[Slartibartfast]

Would Celtic fans do Lin for Jeff Green? I think it makes sense for both teams....

I'd consider it if we can't get anybody to offer up a pick. I'm sure we'd want the Lakers to take back Nelson too.

I like Lin next to Smart - a ballhandler with size and some shooting range.

[165bows]

Trade ideas have been beat to death for these two guys but here's a couple:

Bass to Milwaukee for second rounders +/- Damien Inglis.

Green to Indiana for Scola/Copeland/Soloman Hill

Edit - question is if they can dump more salary in season how much if any can they take advantage of it.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

All of this is gross

[UGA Hayes]

Would Celtic fans do Lin for Jeff Green? I think it makes sense for both teams....

I'd consider it if we can't get anybody to offer up a pick. I'm sure we'd want the Lakers to take back Nelson too.

I like Lin next to Smart - a ballhandler with size and some shooting range.

I would do it, if for no other reason to get the ball rolling on finding a green replacement be it jae or someone else.

Memphis is definitely a team I would target. They want to win this year and are weak at the sf position. I would see if we can't their guys like Jordan Adams or jarnell stokes, both guys I liked in college. Only problem is that it seems unlikely a stat oriented team like memorialize want green.

[Slartibartfast]

I suggested this in the trade ideas thread, but it's just as relevant here - Green and Bass to the Pelicans for Gordon, Rivers and their 2017 pick.

I know that's not good value, but it gets us the first we're looking for, clears up a role for Young, furthers the tank, gives a potential boost to our LAC and Dallas picks.

[2Mas]

i hate ainge. don't trade talent, goddamn. pay bradley 32 million, and then trade green. this fool needs to be FIRED.

What? Don't you read this board? DA is a G.O.D.!!!!!!!! The best GM in NBA history, if not in sports history.

I believe in assets, not talent. I think the best move would be to trade every player on the team for picks and then automatically forfeit all remaining games and thus put us in position for a top lottery pick, which we could then flip for even more assets.

It's all about the assets, baby. I think we need a banner to hang from the rafters to represent each draft pick we've accumulated.

Long may Ainge reign.

At least we'd be 100% in a direction. Keeping Rondo was pointless & same for Green & Bass & co. I honestly would love for DA to do what you said (minus the sarcasm draft pick banners lol) & at least 100% commit to this tank & rebuild.

This wanting to top out at 10th & get the 8th pick **** has to stop. It's miserable.

I wouldn't mind loosing every game this year. But I wanna watch Smart Young Sully KO lol. Not Bass, Bradley, Green & Turner jeez.

[Captain_Caveman]

Can you have a TPE if you're under the cap, so it counts like a player or a cap hold? Or does it go away once you drop under the line?

I think we're a dark horse for Kevin Love.. You get him to commit, then you pitch a defense-first 5 like Asik, Hibbert, Jordan to cover for him. Then you have the pieces to grow around him/Jordan (both still young) and/or trade for another star (Westbrook?).. The Cleveland situation is so sad to watch- they could put it all together, and they're two smart moves away from a rock-solid contender. But they're one or two dumb moves away from having it all fall apart again, and it would be so much worse the second time around. You know Love's got a little Dwight/Ray prima donna in him, even if he keeps quiet. And you know he likes our organization. If he does leave, New York and LA are obviously appealing, but Boston's got a leg up on Cleveland, too.. Who thought Dwight would pick Houston?

You keep the TPE if you are over the Cap, or if adding to the existing salaries and holds, brings you back over the Cap. If, even after adding it back in, it does not, you lose the TPE. You can't have any Exceptions (minus the Room Exception) and Cap space. It is either or.

As for the salary floor, too much is made of that, in my opinion. If you miss, you simply take the amount you missed by and divide it up amongst the players on your roster. Even Philadelphia managed to make the floor last year. You can always eat a deal later if it comes down to it. I don't think any team stresses over making the floor.

As for trades, I'd do the Gordon for Wallace deal. At least Gordon could have some semblance of value as a shooter. Wallace, at this point, has nothing left. Gordon will never be worth his contract, but he could be worth a portion of it. Wallace won't even get there.

I bring up the salary floor because people are saying there is economic incentive for the owners to dump Wallace, when the truth is, they will probably be charged that money anyways. It'd be nice to need that cap room this summer, or find a taker for his salary in a big trade, but both are highly unlikely prior to next year's trade deadline. What's most likely is that we will just hold onto him until his contract expires, or maybe just give him a courtesy buyout post-trade deadline next year.

No biggie. As to Gordon, keep that ****. He's terrible even when he is healthy, which he never is. No place for him in terms of either minutes or salary.

[jfs1000d]

Would Celtic fans do Lin for Jeff Green? I think it makes sense for both teams....

In what way? Lin is just another expiring. Solid point but Green definitely has more value.

Neither has any value. I think Lin can help a team as a spare partZ I am not sure Jeff can be a role player. He has to go to a team and start. Like the Memphis angle.

[Captain_Caveman]

I suggested this in the trade ideas thread, but it's just as relevant here - Green and Bass to the Pelicans for Gordon, Rivers and their 2017 pick.

I know that's not good value, but it gets us the first we're looking for, clears up a role for Young, furthers the tank, gives a potential boost to our LAC and Dallas picks.

We take on $15.5m in crap next year just for a likely late 1st in 2017?

Would rather just give them a pick to not do that trade with us.

[Slartibartfast]

I suggested this in the trade ideas thread, but it's just as relevant here - Green and Bass to the Pelicans for Gordon, Rivers and their 2017 pick.

I know that's not good value, but it gets us the first we're looking for, clears up a role for Young, furthers the tank, gives a potential boost to our LAC and Dallas picks.

We take on $15.5m in crap next year just for a likely late 1st in 2017?

Would rather just give them a pick to not do that trade with us.

It's about what I expect to get for the cap space next year anyways. But yes it is a pretty poor deal value wise. But with so few teams apparently willing to trade first rounders and our own brass so intent on stockpiling them while getting rid of Bass/Green, I thought it seemed like a deal they might do.

[Captain_Caveman]

I suggested this in the trade ideas thread, but it's just as relevant here - Green and Bass to the Pelicans for Gordon, Rivers and their 2017 pick.

I know that's not good value, but it gets us the first we're looking for, clears up a role for Young, furthers the tank, gives a potential boost to our LAC and Dallas picks.

We take on $15.5m in crap next year just for a likely late 1st in 2017?

Would rather just give them a pick to not do that trade with us.

It's about what I expect to get for the cap space next year anyways. But yes it is a pretty poor deal value wise. But with so few teams apparently willing to trade first rounders and our own brass so intent on stockpiling them while getting rid of Bass/Green, I thought it seemed like a deal they might do.

Well, right on. If we are intent on hoarding cap space for 2016, rather than doing what the Suns did this past offseason, so be it. But IMO, we'd take a ton of options off the table by eating *that* much salary next year for such a little return. Could probably get David Lee, Ezeli and a Ws pick for the same deal, and count me out on that one too.

[robbie84]

I'd be surprised if we got a first round pick for an expiring Jeff Green. Anything more would be a Danny Ainge hosing.

GM's understand that Jeff Green is only putting up mediocre numbers on one of the worst teams in the NBA. He's a terribly inefficient player and if you're giving him looks over guys like Marc Gasol, Randoph or Conley then you're only hurting your efficiency and production.

Of course Danny would 'leak' that multiple teams are interested in Jeff Green to stir up some value but the reality is that he's probably worth a few 2nd round picks.

I mean how many teams in the NBA have a late first round pick to give up for Green for a playoff push ? 2 or 3?

Doesn't Hollinger work for the Grizzlies? He openly hates Jeff Green too. Can't see that happening.

[165bows]

Well Zach Randolph is out with swelling in his knee and the Grizzlies have five of their nine losses in the last two weeks.

[Red2]

Green has no discipline to his game . Everything is loose with him

[Valid]

I'd be surprised if we got a first round pick for an expiring Jeff Green. Anything more would be a Danny Ainge hosing.

GM's understand that Jeff Green is only putting up mediocre numbers on one of the worst teams in the NBA. He's a terribly inefficient player and if you're giving him looks over guys like Marc Gasol, Randoph or Conley then you're only hurting your efficiency and production.

Of course Danny would 'leak' that multiple teams are interested in Jeff Green to stir up some value but the reality is that he's probably worth a few 2nd round picks.

I mean how many teams in the NBA have a late first round pick to give up for Green for a playoff push ? 2 or 3?

Doesn't Hollinger work for the Grizzlies? He openly hates Jeff Green too. Can't see that happening.

Hollinger also hated Rudy Gay, and now look at how well Gay is playing in Sacramento and how much Memphis could have used his perimeter scoring the past couple of seasons.

Not sure the Grizzlies' front office will allow him to have as strong of a say in their decisions anymore. The dude is a tool (did I ever tell you guys how much I hate John Hollinger?).

[Banks2Pierce]

Wonder if we're waiting it out for the market to heat up on Green or if it's not really there? Ainge did have that comment to the effect of "let's enjoy the holidays" so I do wonder if he wanted to see a bit how things looked without Rondo or maybe that's just too much of a speculation leap. No chance that there's an actual market for Bass.

[greenroom31]

Asked this in another thread but will try again here:

Does anyone know the date at which we can trade the guys we got from Dallas in the the Rondo deal? Seems to me that Ainge was really focused on trading Rondo in time for the returning players to be dealt again. I wouldn't be surprised if the hold-up on trading Bass, Green, etc. is to try to package those guys with Wright and Nelson.

Thanks in advance!

[Valid]

Asked this in another thread but will try again here:

Does anyone know the date at which we can trade the guys we got from Dallas in the the Rondo deal? Seems to me that Ainge was really focused on trading Rondo in time for the returning players to be dealt again. I wouldn't be surprised if the hold-up on trading Bass, Green, etc. is to try to package those guys with Wright and Nelson.

Thanks in advance!

We can trade any of the Dallas guys by themselves; just can't trade them in a package.

That restriction expires Feb. 17, though, which is two days before the deadline.

[Bohemian]

Asked this in another thread but will try again here:

Does anyone know the date at which we can trade the guys we got from Dallas in the the Rondo deal? Seems to me that Ainge was really focused on trading Rondo in time for the returning players to be dealt again. I wouldn't be surprised if the hold-up on trading Bass, Green, etc. is to try to package those guys with Wright and Nelson.

Thanks in advance!

On their own, each player can be traded at any moment but if any of those players is packed with others in the same deal then the Celtics need to wait 2 months. That is, right at the February deadline, that's why Ainge was pressed to do the Rondo deal.

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Ainge has gotta be thinking that maybe a Green/Wright package could potentially shake loose a first from a team looking to take a step forward in the frontcourt. We shall see I guess.