GT: Lakers (10-22) vs Grizzlies (23-8) | 1/2/15 | 7:30 PM

[ChokeFasncists]

So, Kobe vs Scott

Lin gets blamed

Kobe should apologize for making a scene

He should be whipped and have his wounds salted for antagonizing Lin.

That's not what it's about. If he might defy the coach, maybe he should have talked to him beforehand?

Keep drinking the Kool Aide. This is a coaching issue:

Either by not preparing the team to his own strategy, or simply a dumb mistake.

I'm not so sure that it's totally a one way street. A player usually follows what the coach want, if he has unusual authority maybe he should have discussed the situation with Scott? Did Scott really not tell the players to foul later except to Lin?

Kobe just hit a huge shot, made the foul off his man, and then got a key rebound, and then tried to spoon feed Ed, and then tried to bail us out with an in-line improbable shot.

Sure, doesn't mean he is above the team.

"Apologize for making a scene?" We're talking about professional sports, not a group therapy session.

"a scene?" seriously?

Is that you, Jeremy?

I don't mean a serious or public apology, just a small "my bad" would suffice.

He was visibly angry at Lin for a wrong reason.

No, I'm not Jeremy.

[crazyeights]

The players involved were obviously confused as to what was going on.

Evidenced by Kobe saying to foul and Lin asking Scott multiple times.

I don't blame Lin for following the coach. I blame the coach for not having practiced that scenario with his team.

It's embarassing and falls on Scott, IMO.

[leeprettyp]

lol we're still talking about that play? It is what it is that was a bad idea by our coach if that was the case. Obviously you try to maximize the positions under 20 secs to play the game clock and shot clock were damn near identical. And it looked like all the guys didnt know what to do out there. We played a tough close game and lost. I was encouraged though by what I saw out there. I still believe a core of Kobe, Randle, Young, Davis, Lin, Clarkson and this version of Wes Johnson is a nice group to entice a prime level free agent this offseason and we still need a Ascending Pg and that guy is Reggie Jackson to me

[kblo247]

I don't understand why so many people are against bringing Lin back at a reasonable dollar to be our backup PG going forward. Paying Lin 4-6mill a season would be a solid pickup. He's a GREAT backup combo guard

Lin is not going to accept that, he wants to be a starter or at least a player that gets 30 mpg and is in at the end closing games. He will also want to make around 8-9 mill a year probably but would take less if he liked the team. He likes LA and the Lakers, I don't think he loves the coach or thinks the system is good for him long-term. So, I don't see him staying beyond the season.

1 - He's not good enough to start

He can't make simple passes like vs Denver with post entries to boozer, is turnover prone because of bad handles, and his shot is way too dependent on being at home.

2 - he can't play 30 minutes a night

He is utterly gassed on back to backs this year at the age of 26 and without injuries or high playoff minutes; to top it off he is a bad defender as seen last night when Udrih took him for a point a minute

3 - he's not getting 10 mil

No team in the league besides us was willing to eat his cap figure or pay him 15 mil this year without a lot of sweetening when the rockets were trying to give him away

[Slava]

I don't understand why so many people are against bringing Lin back at a reasonable dollar to be our backup PG going forward. Paying Lin 4-6mill a season would be a solid pickup. He's a GREAT backup combo guard

Lin is not going to accept that, he wants to be a starter or at least a player that gets 30 mpg and is in at the end closing games. He will also want to make around 8-9 mill a year probably but would take less if he liked the team. He likes LA and the Lakers, I don't think he loves the coach or thinks the system is good for him long-term. So, I don't see him staying beyond the season.

1 - He's not good enough to start

He can't make simple passes like vs Denver with post entries to boozer, is turnover prone because of bad handles, and his shot is way too dependent on being at home.

2 - he can't play 30 minutes a night

He is utterly gassed on back to backs this year at the age of 26 and without injuries or high playoff minutes; to top it off he is a bad defender as seen last night when Udrih took him for a point a minute

3 - he's not getting 10 mil

No team in the league besides us was willing to eat his cap figure or pay him 15 mil this year without a lot of sweetening when the rockets were trying to give him away

No ****, I looked at his home and road splits during his best run in NY and the home-away disparity is clear as summer sky.

Home: 50% FG, 37% from 3, 54.2 eFG%
Away: 39.4 % FG, 25 % from 3 & 41.5 eFG%

[leeprettyp]

Lin is not going to accept that, he wants to be a starter or at least a player that gets 30 mpg and is in at the end closing games. He will also want to make around 8-9 mill a year probably but would take less if he liked the team. He likes LA and the Lakers, I don't think he loves the coach or thinks the system is good for him long-term. So, I don't see him staying beyond the season.

1 - He's not good enough to start

He can't make simple passes like vs Denver with post entries to boozer, is turnover prone because of bad handles, and his shot is way too dependent on being at home.

2 - he can't play 30 minutes a night

He is utterly gassed on back to backs this year at the age of 26 and without injuries or high playoff minutes; to top it off he is a bad defender as seen last night when Udrih took him for a point a minute

3 - he's not getting 10 mil

No team in the league besides us was willing to eat his cap figure or pay him 15 mil this year without a lot of sweetening when the rockets were trying to give him away

No ****, I looked at his home and road splits during his best run in NY and the home-away disparity is clear as summer sky.

Home: 50% FG, 37% from 3, 54.2 eFG%
Away: 39.4 % FG, 25 % from 3 & 41.5 eFG%

Yeah thats why I said 4-6mill a season as a backup PG is what we should be looking for to pay him

[EArl]

Davis has been promising. We should ship Hill and resign Davis on an affordable contract.

[Optms]

I don't understand why so many people are against bringing Lin back at a reasonable dollar to be our backup PG going forward. Paying Lin 4-6mill a season would be a solid pickup. He's a GREAT backup combo guard

Lin is not going to accept that, he wants to be a starter or at least a player that gets 30 mpg and is in at the end closing games. He will also want to make around 8-9 mill a year probably but would take less if he liked the team. He likes LA and the Lakers, I don't think he loves the coach or thinks the system is good for him long-term. So, I don't see him staying beyond the season.

Houston benched in favor of Patrick Beverly. He's coming off the bench here to Ronnie Price. This is it for him. He's not starting anywhere else and he isn't getting anywhere near 8-9 million.

Leepretty had it right.

I'd be comfortable paying him 4-5 million as a back up and no more. He's free to test the waters if he and his agent disagree. He's not exactly playing a premium position in this league.

[leeprettyp]

Lin, Young, Clarkson, Boozer make up a really nice bench core... Per game thats at least 40pts right there. The issue with us this season was we had to start 2 of those players when in reality they'll shine better off the bench. All these close games we lost this year was because we're lacking that top tier player to carry us for almost 40mpg like Kobe once was able to. The role/core players are there we just need a starting PG and a top tier FA. I doubt its Marc Gasol or Lamarcus Aldridge (they're not leaving their current teams). Its gonna be up to the front office to figure out who to target and how to get them. And I'm not a big fan of Kevin Love being your best player on a contending team, especially in the West

[bws94]

I don't understand why so many people are against bringing Lin back at a reasonable dollar to be our backup PG going forward. Paying Lin 4-6mill a season would be a solid pickup. He's a GREAT backup combo guard

Lin is not going to accept that, he wants to be a starter or at least a player that gets 30 mpg and is in at the end closing games. He will also want to make around 8-9 mill a year probably but would take less if he liked the team. He likes LA and the Lakers, I don't think he loves the coach or thinks the system is good for him long-term. So, I don't see him staying beyond the season.

1 - He's not good enough to start

He can't make simple passes like vs Denver with post entries to boozer, is turnover prone because of bad handles, and his shot is way too dependent on being at home.

2 - he can't play 30 minutes a night

He is utterly gassed on back to backs this year at the age of 26 and without injuries or high playoff minutes; to top it off he is a bad defender as seen last night when Udrih took him for a point a minute

3 - he's not getting 10 mil

No team in the league besides us was willing to eat his cap figure or pay him 15 mil this year without a lot of sweetening when the rockets were trying to give him away

A lot of people said Lin can't do this that and the other all of his career. We'll see. None of us have a crystal ball so we'll see what happens. All I expressed was what I think I've heard from Lin himself, whether anyone on any forum agrees or not with him.

[kblo247]

Lin is not going to accept that, he wants to be a starter or at least a player that gets 30 mpg and is in at the end closing games. He will also want to make around 8-9 mill a year probably but would take less if he liked the team. He likes LA and the Lakers, I don't think he loves the coach or thinks the system is good for him long-term. So, I don't see him staying beyond the season.

1 - He's not good enough to start

He can't make simple passes like vs Denver with post entries to boozer, is turnover prone because of bad handles, and his shot is way too dependent on being at home.

2 - he can't play 30 minutes a night

He is utterly gassed on back to backs this year at the age of 26 and without injuries or high playoff minutes; to top it off he is a bad defender as seen last night when Udrih took him for a point a minute

3 - he's not getting 10 mil

No team in the league besides us was willing to eat his cap figure or pay him 15 mil this year without a lot of sweetening when the rockets were trying to give him away

A lot of people said Lin can't do this that and the other all of his career. We'll see. None of us have a crystal ball so we'll see what happens. All I expressed was what I think I've heard from Lin himself, whether anyone on any forum agrees or not with him.

What he said vs what he's shown ... He's not shown to be consistent, a good starter, or a play any team wants to keep long term. His legacy could be a serviceable guy who wonders around like Strickland

[bws94]

1 - He's not good enough to start

He can't make simple passes like vs Denver with post entries to boozer, is turnover prone because of bad handles, and his shot is way too dependent on being at home.

2 - he can't play 30 minutes a night

He is utterly gassed on back to backs this year at the age of 26 and without injuries or high playoff minutes; to top it off he is a bad defender as seen last night when Udrih took him for a point a minute

3 - he's not getting 10 mil

No team in the league besides us was willing to eat his cap figure or pay him 15 mil this year without a lot of sweetening when the rockets were trying to give him away

A lot of people said Lin can't do this that and the other all of his career. We'll see. None of us have a crystal ball so we'll see what happens. All I expressed was what I think I've heard from Lin himself, whether anyone on any forum agrees or not with him.

What he said vs what he's shown ... He's not shown to be consistent, a good starter, or a play any team wants to keep long term. His legacy could be a serviceable guy who wonders around like Strickland

There's more to Lin than the 32 games he played as a Laker. And he has more to play. He sure played well tonight after a pretty bad start in the first half. He's an impact player if you ask me. And he's way better than he's shown himself to be as a Laker.