Rudy Gobert: Future DPOY

orlandomanic · Post #21 » by **orlandomanic** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 6:27 am

He will never be an all star, but i think at best he could be a 12/9 guy. Just like DeAndre, McGee, and Drummond, his free throw shooting is horrible and that will be what limits his playing time and 4th quarter appearances.

Post #22 » by **kingkirk** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 6:29 am

He has future DPOY written all over him. Jazz nailed that pick.

MinneOOPalis · Post #23 » by **MinneOOPalis** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 6:40 am

this guy isn't fair.

DiscoLives4ever · Post #24 » by **DiscoLives4ever** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 6:51 am

orlandomanic wrote:He will never be an all star, but i think at best he could be a 12/9 guy. Just like DeAndre, McGee, and Drummond, his free throw shooting is horrible and that will be what limits his playing time and 4th quarter appearances.

He's shooting 68% from the line this year and keeps improving. If he can hit 70%+ then he won't be much of a liability

Post #25 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 7:00 am

Jazz got suck a steal... Gobert was someone I REALLY wanted on my Blazers and on draft night I was saying we should have outbid the Jazz

HawaiianJazzFan · Post #26 » by **HawaiianJazzFan** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 7:05 am

[quote="orlandomanic"]He will never be an all star, but i think at best he could be a 12/9 guy. Just like DeAndre, McGee, and Drummond, his free throw shooting is horrible and that will be what limits his playing time and 4th quarter appearances.[/quote]

His free throw shooting isn't going to be a problem, he has EXCELLENT form and has been improving a ton. He should be at least a 70% FT shooter and is shooting it at 69.2% right now. Deandre and Drummond are in the 40's, so he isn't anywhere close to as bad as they are and he won't be in the future. I think Gobert will average more than 9 rebounds per game as his percentages are some of the best in the NBA. I don't know about scoring yet but as he gets more experienced I could also see him as a 3 bpg player easily.

Macho · Post #27 » by **Macho** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 7:16 am

Why isn't he starting alongside Favors? like him a lot more than Kanter.

HawaiianJazzFan · Post #28 » by **HawaiianJazzFan** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 7:44 am

[quote="Macho"]Why isn't he starting alongside Favors? like him a lot more than Kanter.[/quote]

The biggest reason is spacing, I think. Actually some of the best minutes have been when Kanter and Gobert are together (Kanter all offense, little D and Gobert all D, little O). The Jazz have a little bit of a problem although it isn't a bad one to have with their young bigs. Kanter is clearly the best offensively out of the 3 bigs, Gobert is clearly the best defender, and Favors is good, but not great on both ends. With that said, initially when Favors and Gobert were on the court together we struggled offensively but it has been getting better. They are both young so with Kanter being out a couple of games with his ankle, they may be able to grow together a little bit as they are forced to start together.

Damon_3388 · Post #29 » by **Damon_3388** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 8:03 am

orlandomanic wrote:He will never be an all star, but i think at best he could be a 12/9 guy. Just like DeAndre, McGee, and Drummond, his free throw shooting is horrible and that will be what limits his playing time and 4th quarter appearances.

He's shooting .692 from the line this year. Not mindblowing, but hardly "horrible".

What I like about him for a young big, especially one that contests shots often, is that his foul rate is pretty low, and his block-to-foul ratio is pretty high. Shows that he can play hard and smart. Can be a bit fumbly and turn the ball over a little too much on offense though, considering his role.

I see him turning out like Tyson Chandler, or at least being molded into that type of player. Pretty good value for an foreign big coming late in the first round. Seems to be a lot further along and much more of a sure thing than someone of similar age and size like Lucas Nogueira, who was taken eleven spots higher in the same draft.

stitches · Post #30 » by **stitches** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 8:52 am

Hard to predict especially having in mind that his minutes in the future will depend to a big extend on how much he improves offensively. Defensively he is already at an elite level and I'd say he's a top 5 defensive center in the NBA right now. He made a huge jump in the last off season and if he has another leap in him, then he might be truly special. His biggest problems in offense right now are his weak hands. He has trouble catching passes with pace, passes in traffic. He has trouble keeping the ball in his hands when the defenders are swiping at the ball. I'd like him to work on that one the most so he'd be used with better confidence by his teammates inside the paint, also he's already shown he has nice touch, good vision and passing inside the paint, whenever he can actually keep the ball in his hands long enough to make those passes, so that would improve too. I'd also like to see the development and use of some rudimentary post moves and a hook shot, as well as 10-15 foot jumper. His free throw shooting has improved dramatically from last year(from 49% to 69%), so I don't think it's impossible for him to start hitting some short mid-range jumpers. But let me stop because I am starting to day-dream...

Here's highlights from his game today:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crMXZq_lzoM[/youtube]

Amish Mafioso · Post #31 » by **Amish Mafioso** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 9:14 am

King Ken wrote:I can't wait till Walter Tavares comes to the Hawks from Europe.

That guy is not Rudy, who is awesome and already in the NBA. Yeah, let's talk about Rudy.

The rest of the league is starting to sit up and take notice of what Jazz fans already know, that we have a very special player on our hands. His combination of extraordinary length and athleticism for someone that big make him a very rare defensive presence. I don't blame fans of other teams for drooling, as I have to wear a bib every time I watch Rudy play. :wink:

laploutocratie · Post #32 » by **laploutocratie** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 9:21 am

stitches wrote:Hard to predict especially having in mind that his minutes in the future will depend to a big extend on how much he improves offensively. Defensively he is already at an elite level and I'd say he's a top 5 defensive center in the NBA right now. He made a huge jump in the last off season and if he has another leap in him, then he might be truly special. His biggest problems in offense right now are his weak hands. He has trouble catching passes with pace, passes in traffic. He has trouble keeping the ball in his hands when the defenders are swiping at the ball. I'd like him to work on that one the most so he'd be used with better confidence by his teammates inside the paint, also he's already shown he has nice touch, good vision and passing inside the paint, whenever he can actually keep the ball in his hands long enough to make those passes, so that would improve too. I'd also like to see the development and use of some rudimentary post moves and a hook shot, as well as 10-15 foot jumper. His free throw shooting has improved dramatically from last year(from 49% to 69%), so I don't think it's impossible for him to start hitting some short mid-range jumpers. But let me stop because I am starting to day-dream...

Here's highlights from his game today:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crMXZq_lzoM[/youtube]

Rudy didn't get credited for all of his blocks last night. He had more than six. Come on. :noway:

Based Mike Ross · Post #33 » by **Based Mike Ross** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 9:42 am

deandre jordan with a little footwork?

thamadkant · Post #34 » by **thamadkant** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 10:23 am

Mark Eaton-lite (Mark Eaton was 7'4 though)
12ppg 7rpg 3bpg

Nice pick Jazz

Post #35 » by **Young_Star11** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 10:31 am

His play in the World Championships helped a lot. Good to see him panning out, pre-Draft he was your classic 'boom or big-time bust' sort of a pick.

HawaiianJazzFan · Post #36 » by **HawaiianJazzFan** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 10:36 am

[quote="1UPZ"]Mark Eaton-lite (Mark Eaton was 7'4 though)
12ppg 7rpg 3bpg

Nice pick Jazz[/quote]

The Crazy thing is that because of his freakishly long arms, he has a higher standing reach than Eaton. Mark Eaton averaged 5.6 bpg one year, he was insane. I love that he wears 27 because that is where he was drafted, and he was pretty pissed he was picked so late, so it is a reminder for him.

Amish Mafioso · Post #37 » by **Amish Mafioso** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 11:04 am

HawaiianJazzFan wrote: I love that he wears 27 because that is where he was drafted, and he was pretty pissed he was picked so late, so it is a reminder for him.

I think it's also a reminder to everyone who passed him over. He seems to be on a mission.

Side beard · Post #38 » by **Side beard** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 2:04 pm

Dcebucks11 wrote:id love to have him on my team

Gotta get that team in your city first. :lol:

King Ken · Post #39 » by **King Ken** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 2:34 pm

Amish Mafioso wrote:
King Ken wrote:I can't wait till Walter Tavares comes to the Hawks from Europe.

That guy is not Rudy, who is awesome and already in the NBA. Yeah, let's talk about Rudy.

The rest of the league is starting to sit up and take notice of what Jazz fans already know, that we have a very special player on our hands. His combination of extraordinary length and athleticism for someone that big make him a very rare defensive presence. I don't blame fans of other teams for drooling, as I have to wear a bib every time I watch Rudy play.

You haven't watched Edy play then. Edy is beasting in Spain and putting up way better numbers in a better league then Rudy in France. On top of that, his game translates to the NBA and our style of basketball in Atlanta. Rudy wasn't expected to be this good. He looked like rubbish last year but if you watched him closely, you saw the talent. Same can be said for Edy who is more physically talented, faster, longer, and has higher BBIQ than Gobert. Gobert has more explosiveness and offensive skill than Edy.

hands11 · Post #40 » by **hands11** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 2:35 pm

XTC wrote:Javale McGee with a brain

Hey, McGee with a brain could have been dominate.

I like me some Rudy G

What a great last first pick. Why not swing for the fence with that pick ?