Nerlens Noel Thread

[CoreyGallagher]

just a question, were does everyone reckon nerlens would have gone if he had not have declared for the 2013 Draft and went in the 2014 instead??

Somewhere from 6-10

So Noel is around the same level as Randle, Stauskas and Smart?

That just doesnt seem right

Don't believe he falls close to 10, although that's one person's opinion. 4-7 imo. Could imagine the Magic taking him at 4, would have fit perfectly next to Vuce.

[42uptop]

The thing that worries me about Noel is not his offensive game but it's the defensive side. He's just not that great (or at least not great as advertised), right now - and you have to be great in order to a very good player without an impressive offensive game.

Noel is every bit as good as advertised defensively. He can be credited for our league average defense, about the only positive thing the season has had to offer.

[Agnostifarian]

I think Noel's defensive impact will be elite. I think he will take years to become aa viable scoring option other than garbage at the rim and that's fine with me. He's got to stop shooting that jumper from behind his head. It doesn't look like he can even see the ball before he slings it up there. It's hard to believe we spent a year hearing about the "total rebuild" of his shot. Yikes.

If he was in last year's draft, the Lakers or Celtics would have drafted him, IMO.

[Ericb5]

Somewhere from 6-10

So Noel is around the same level as Randle, Stauskas and Smart?

That just doesnt seem right

Don't believe he falls close to 10, although that's one person's opinion. 4-7 imo. Could imagine the Magic taking him at 4, would have fit perfectly next to Vuce.

I agree that 4-7 would be his range, but probably closer to 4. Assuming he was healthy, then each team in the 4-7 range would have seriously considered him.

[James40]

I think if he was effective as Mason Plumlee, or Kelly Olynyk as rookies, guys taken after him, this would be a different story. Alex Len ( taken before) and Gorgui Dieng can block shots at the rim. Granted those guys are centers, I'm not even sure what Noel is anymore. What really kills him is the talent around him, which is nil.

I didn't realize how good Plumlee was as a rookie.

Plumlee entered the league at the age of 23. Kelly was 22. Gorgui was 23.

Nerlens holds opponents to a lower % at the rim then all four of them at 47%.[/quot

That stat will mean a lot more when the Sixers aren't 20 some games under .500. The Sixers need scoring, but it not Noels job to score, I get that. He has had 4-5 games this year where he was very effective on both sides of the ball, and he's way to athletic not to be more often than not.

[JordanMars]

Nerlens looks scared out there, really needs to add weight, Honestly he has a shot at rookie of the year still but doesnt mean he deserves it, guy looks like a nba role player in the making that can come off the bench for some blocked shots and defense.

[Bigballer74]

Noelol is average at best. If he was on any other team, cats on this board would be clowning the **** out of him. I think his ceiling is 10 to 15 minute guy off the bench. He will be traded if they draft another big this year for a pick.

[MRxBLACK]

^^^^The haters have arrived.

Fact is Noel is having a similar rookie season that Jo Noah did, and Noah played three full years of college ball.

[Mik317]

I can't stand posters who seemingly wants dudes to fail just so they can go "I told you so"...that is some lame ****

[P4nthers11]

Plus Hinkie would have to decide where Noel's value is at right now. People don't seem to understand that this isn't fantasy. If Noel continues to struggle, this isn't going to be a secret that only Sixers fans know. Who the hell is going to trade anything of value for a player that is in a rut? Well, you might say that they would trade for Noel's potential as a defensive force, plus rebounder, and developing offense. And if that's the case then I would argue he has more value to US for those reasons than anything we could get in return right now. We are in the best place to develop him. Even if we draft another big there will still be plenty of minutes for Noel to play and improve. Whether he gets traded down the line remains to be seen, but Hinkie is not the sort to get the bad end of a trade value-wise.

What I think is pretty funny is that of our players I think Wroten is the most likely to be traded. And that is because of perceived value. We picked him up for almost nothing. He is young and starting to improve in going to the right. Maybe we will see continued improvement in his shot. These things make him valuable to other teams for the same reasons they are valuable to us. If we do not think that he is part of our long-term plans then I think he gets moved to a team that wants the spark he provides. Teams give value for value.

[MRxBLACK]

Breaking news, raw 20 year old center is lacking consistency on one of the worst offensive teams of all time in his first 30 games after missing a year of playing time. More at 11.

[Sixerscan]

He needs to figure out how to catch the ball.

[Ericb5]

Breaking news, raw 20 year old center is lacking consistency on one of the worst offensive teams of all time in his first 30 games after missing a year of playing time. More at 11.

LOL. That is the point that people need to understand.

He is 20 years old on a dumpster fire of a team(in terms of talent on the floor), after an 18 month layoff, and trying a new position.

If he was 23, and going into his third year and was playing this way then I would be really disappointed.

To me, the positives are obvious. He is an electric athlete, with great length and defensive instincts. He is a competitive and coachable kid. He is completely healthy.

Let's focus on the positives and give him some room to feel his way into the league. I see no red flags with him other than the ones that we already knew about, namely his lack of strength and his poor offensive skill. Both of those weaknesses WILL improve over time, and how much they improve will largely determine how good of an overall player he can be.

[Ericb5]

Did anyone catch Marc Zumoff saying last night that Noel is right on the border of averaging 1.5 stls, and 1.5 blks and that the only rookie to ever do that before was David Robinson?

Plus Robinson was a four year college player with an additional 2 years in the Navy so he was 4 or 5 years older at the time of his rookie season.

Granted, they didn't keep those stats until the 70's, but it is a pretty damn impressive stat regardless.

[MRxBLACK]

Yeah, I had to confirm it myself but Robinson is the only rookie on record to do it. Noel has a legit chance to do it.

[ryst]

so, has he learn to catch the ball?
maybe the guy has the most defensive potential ever, maybe.

how ever he cant do the most essential and simple thing in basketball , which is CATHING THE **** BALL

[roma258]

so, has he learn to catch the ball?
maybe the guy has the most defensive potential ever, maybe.

how ever he cant do the most essential and simple thing in basketball , which is CATHING THE **** BALL

I don't think he'll ever have great hands, but I think he'll improve as he gets stronger. Besides, he can do some nice things on offense (once he catches the ball that is).

[Sixerscan]

He has great hands when it comes to getting them in the way of the ball on defense

He's just not good at actually catching the ball.

It's weird (Like everything with this team)

[Mik317]

His hands have been less awful recently

as he has caught some of Wroten YOLO Bullet Passes and got some rebounds in traffic.

still bad tho

[Ericb5]

I think that he doesn't have great hands, but more drops can be attributed to poor concentration and bad passes than can be attributed to bad hands.