Trade Ideas Thread

[greenroom31]

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[darrendaye]

This might have been mentioned previously, and there is a chance I'm wrong, but the $4.9 million disabled player exemption that the Cavs received would allow them to perfectly absorb the $5 million deal for Wright (there is a $100k allowance). Also the rule is that you can use it in trade ONLY if the player is in the last year of their deal, including option years (so Mosgov would not qualify).

[FakeScreenName123]

Bradley, Green, Zeller, (picks?) for Reggie Jackson

[Andrew McCeltic]

Bradley, Green, Zeller, (picks?) for Reggie Jackson

We talking about the Thunder guard or the hall of fame baseball player? That's a huge overpay for Jackson..

[Andrew McCeltic]

This might have been mentioned previously, and there is a chance I'm wrong, but the $4.9 million disabled player exemption that the Cavs received would allow them to perfectly absorb the $5 million deal for Wright (there is a $100k allowance). Also the rule is that you can use it in trade ONLY if the player is in the last year of their deal, including option years (so Mosgov would not qualify).

No, I've heard that, too.. What's not clear is whether Cleveland is using any of the Bogans exception in their deal with New York..

[Higgs Boston]

Bradley, Green, Zeller, (picks?) for Reggie Jackson

Westbrook, the all-star PG in OKC is westbrook. jackson is a poor and bad westbrook version, role player and starter PG in team that not have PG as much.

[Patsfan1081]

Why does everyone want Jackson? He has terrible soothing %, and wasn't a very good passer with Westbrook out either. Yeah, he was averaging 18 with the two stars out, but he was playing 38 minutes a night and shooting 20 fg's. Have patients with Smart and look to trAde for someone like Terrance Jones or Harrison Barnes who are good shooters but aren't getting enough shots a game.

[Patsfan1081]

Yeah, I don't have a strong opinion about it personally but it seems like Ainge's m.o. The guy who drove Jim O'Brien to quit and said he didn't care about chemistry seems to have evolved into a GM who treats his clubhouse like a brand, trading players to good situations and wanting a stable organization to sell to free agents..

But who are the disgruntled vets on this team? That's barely a problem at the moment.. And I want them to develop Young, but that guy's got dbag Jordan Crawford/Nick Young "swag" potential written all over him- it's really important to keep him humble and disciplined as much as possible..

I agree on Young. He needs to be play with a little more intensity on D, and there is a little bit of "swag" in him, which we don't need.

And to be clear, I think Ainge has done a heck of a job to this point. But the Rondo trade changed everything. We have the clarity we were looking for. This is a team rebuilding - no doubt any more. This type of team has no place for a Jeff Green, or Brandon Bass. I like those guys. But it's time to move on and fast.

As a franchise, there are only so many opportunities for a top 3-5 pick. Phil Jackson knows what he is doing. Ainge continues to play halfway.

I think that's being 19, Young should have stayed in college another year, has plenty time to mature. Let Young learn nba D by making mistakes.

[underneathtoDJ]

How about:

Green
Nelson
Wright (when both are eligible to be dealt with other players)
16.9M outgoing

for

Perkins
Jackson
McGary
Jerrett
14.1M outgoing

Green goes back to OKC and helps backup Durant, Nelson gives them security to move Jackson and McGary/Jerrett are spare parts. Wright adds a pick and roll big who can play D.

C's go the rest of the season with Jackson/Smart/Bradley in the back court, Crowder/Young on the wing, Sully/KO at PF, Zeller at C en route to a top 5 pick. DA would have to have some assurances he'd be able to resign Jackson long term at some not-crazy rate.

OKC would have Westbrook/Nelson at PG, Waiters/Morrow/Lamb at SG, Durant/Green/PJ3 at SF, Ibaka/Collison at PF, Adams/Wright at C. That's a pretty deep team, balanced team.

[sportscrazy]

Boston waives Jameer Nelson and Marcus Thornton then trades part of the Rondo TPE for THJ, Calderon and Cavs 2019 second round draft pick?

[SMTBSI]

I just had a terrifying revelation.

In the wake of the Cle/Okc/Nyk deal, a follow up of Wright for J.R. Smith and the OKC pick Cleveland just got makes a terrifying amount of sense.

For Cleveland:
- If they take Wright into the Bogans TPE, and sends Smith out for "nothing", they generate a TPE for Smith's contract size. In other words, they effectively upgrade the 5.285817mil TPE to a 5.982375mil TPE. Just a tiny bit more flexibility.
- Wright isn't the answer for them, but now they've dumped J.R.'s second year and turned him into a useful expiring player; created an even larger TPE; still have Haywood, the Memphis pick, and the Varejao DPE in their back pocket; and shaved a million farther below the tax, just in case.

For Boston:
- Danny rents cap space next year to get his 1st for Wright.


Like I said. Terrifying.

[OFWGKTA]

We need to give OKC and Phoenix whatever they want from our vets to push LAC out of the playoffs. Clippers are looking weak right now.

[165bows]

I just had a terrifying revelation.

In the wake of the Cle/Okc/Nyk deal, a follow up of Wright for J.R. Smith and the OKC pick Cleveland just got makes a terrifying amount of sense.

For Cleveland:
- If they take Wright into the Bogans TPE, and sends Smith out for "nothing", they generate a TPE for Smith's contract size. In other words, they effectively upgrade the 5.285817mil TPE to a 5.982375mil TPE. Just a tiny bit more flexibility.
- Wright isn't the answer for them, but now they've dumped J.R.'s second year and turned him into a useful expiring player; created an even larger TPE; still have Haywood, the Memphis pick, and the Varejao DPE in their back pocket; and shaved a million farther below the tax, just in case.

For Boston:
- Danny rents cap space next year to get his 1st for Wright.


Like I said. Terrifying.

Posted it in the other thread but here's this follow-up:
Green and Wright to Memphis, Kosta Koufos and Vince Carter to Cleveland, T. Prince, Calathes and both Cleveland picks to Boston.

[darrendaye]

I just had a terrifying revelation.

In the wake of the Cle/Okc/Nyk deal, a follow up of Wright for J.R. Smith and the OKC pick Cleveland just got makes a terrifying amount of sense.

For Cleveland:
- If they take Wright into the Bogans TPE, and sends Smith out for "nothing", they generate a TPE for Smith's contract size. In other words, they effectively upgrade the 5.285817mil TPE to a 5.982375mil TPE. Just a tiny bit more flexibility.
- Wright isn't the answer for them, but now they've dumped J.R.'s second year and turned him into a useful expiring player; created an even larger TPE; still have Haywood, the Memphis pick, and the Varejao DPE in their back pocket; and shaved a million farther below the tax, just in case.

For Boston:
- Danny rents cap space next year to get his 1st for Wright.


Like I said. Terrifying.

Makes greater sense to use the DPE in this scenario, given its size and limits in trade as I described in my earlier post. Though I have to think JR Smith is going to opt out of that player option year and, while I think Ainge is looking to shed bodies from the roster, even if he is coerced into taking Smith in the exchange as a "toxic element," there is always the option to give him the Bogans treatment and tell him to keep away.

[Murta]

165, I think that's fairly optimistic but it's not inconceivable. Trading Green and Wright in the same deal would be maximizing our asset value.

If Danny trades Wright for 1st and JR Smith, I think he either waives Smith or buys him out. He can't do any good to this Cs team and it's young players (particularly Young). Buyout is pretty likely. Cs could pay JR enough money this year to make up for the next (last) year of his contract because they're 7 mil. under the tax and he could play for a contender. If not, just waive him and have 6 mil. dead money next year. It's not like it'll matter.

[Ed Pinkney]

What about Green and Bass to the Lakers for Lin and Nash and some sort of draft pick, even if it is way down the track. I am thinking of this as purely a roster purge for the Celtics to try and clear the logjam. Might also improve the Lakers enough to ensure their draft pick falls outside the top five and goes to the Suns, which would be a very sweet little side benefit as a Celtics fan.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I just had a terrifying revelation.

In the wake of the Cle/Okc/Nyk deal, a follow up of Wright for J.R. Smith and the OKC pick Cleveland just got makes a terrifying amount of sense.

For Cleveland:
- If they take Wright into the Bogans TPE, and sends Smith out for "nothing", they generate a TPE for Smith's contract size. In other words, they effectively upgrade the 5.285817mil TPE to a 5.982375mil TPE. Just a tiny bit more flexibility.
- Wright isn't the answer for them, but now they've dumped J.R.'s second year and turned him into a useful expiring player; created an even larger TPE; still have Haywood, the Memphis pick, and the Varejao DPE in their back pocket; and shaved a million farther below the tax, just in case.

For Boston:
- Danny rents cap space next year to get his 1st for Wright.


Like I said. Terrifying.

Don't know about the Smith stuff, but yeah- that trade changed when we found out CLE got another first-rounder.. I think they can pretty much get Ainge's full cooperation now in sending them Wright or working out 3-team deals.. I just hope Danny doesn't overplay his hand..

[sully00]

Why does everyone want Jackson? He has terrible soothing %, and wasn't a very good passer with Westbrook out either. Yeah, he was averaging 18 with the two stars out, but he was playing 38 minutes a night and shooting 20 fg's. Have patients with Smart and look to trAde for someone like Terrance Jones or Harrison Barnes who are good shooters but aren't getting enough shots a game.

You are selling Jackson short here. He was putting up 20/5/8 in 13 games as a starter. He is 6'4". He is not a great shooter at this point but he can shoot, he can score, he can create offense for himself and others. That is what people miss when they look at the basketball reference page and don't watch a guy a ball. There is a huge a difference between taking an open 3 in the corner and creating that shot for yourself.

I think you would have to move Bradley if you are going to bring in Jackson but I kind of like the idea of Smart and Jackson in the same backcourt, more importantly I just like the idea of having someone in the fold who can put the ball in the hole. Doubt OKC would go for Bradley's salary though but maybe. Bottom line there is little chance that OKC is bringing Jackson back and at the same time they have got to make moves to get themselves in the playoffs if not back in contention. Maybe something built around Jackson and Green.

[Ed Pinkney]

Why does everyone want Jackson? He has terrible soothing %, and wasn't a very good passer with Westbrook out either. Yeah, he was averaging 18 with the two stars out, but he was playing 38 minutes a night and shooting 20 fg's. Have patients with Smart and look to trAde for someone like Terrance Jones or Harrison Barnes who are good shooters but aren't getting enough shots a game.

You are selling Jackson short here. He was putting up 20/5/8 in 13 games as a starter. He is 6'4". He is not a great shooter at this point but he can shoot, he can score, he can create offense for himself and others. That is what people miss when they look at the basketball reference page and don't watch a guy a ball. There is a huge a difference between taking an open 3 in the corner and creating that shot for yourself.

I think you would have to move Bradley if you are going to bring in Jackson but I kind of like the idea of Smart and Jackson in the same backcourt, more importantly I just like the idea of having someone in the fold who can put the ball in the hole. Doubt OKC would go for Bradley's salary though but maybe. Bottom line there is little chance that OKC is bringing Jackson back and at the same time they have got to make moves to get themselves in the playoffs if not back in contention. Maybe something built around Jackson and Green.

Are you thinking pre-deadline or in the off season Sully? The RFA situation makes things a little tricky I would think.

[TommyPointGawd]

BOS Mason Plumlee
BRK. Jeff Green

Why-
Honestly trying to be realistic. Many of these suggested trades are home runs for the Cs. Jeff Green makes BRK better this year and is expiring. Plumlee has decent upside and is exactly what the Celtics need. Plumlee has fallen out of favor with Lionel hollins

Home run trades are the ones to go after. This trade is like a sacrifice bunt. Plumlee's a center, yeah, but he's fallen out of favor with his coach- Green, on the other hand, is having the best season of his career. It's a huge overpay.

Do you still feel this way??