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Post#21 » by PDay8810 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 4:37 am

Dallas airwaves talk up the maturity to Tony's game. I see it as well and thought it was on display yesterday. These guys aren't satisfied, especially Romo.....it's within their responses to the media after the game.

Won, Lose or Draw....this team has been an unexpected surprise in SO MANY WAYS.

as for Dez....passion is one thing, stupidity has no place.
I'm sure somebody is pointing out how lucky he was not getting flagged. My God, I almost kicked in the TV
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Post#22 » by Manster7588 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 4:55 am

Romotodez wrote:
Manster7588 wrote:Per Weather.com the temp in GB this Sunday will be between 12 and 16 degrees during the game and foggy. I hope the fog is extremely dense.


Any wind?????


12 MPH.
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Post#23 » by Manster7588 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 4:58 am

PDay8810 wrote:Dallas airwaves talk up the maturity to Tony's game. I see it as well and thought it was on display yesterday. These guys aren't satisfied, especially Romo.....it's within their responses to the media after the game.

Won, Lose or Draw....this team has been an unexpected surprise in SO MANY WAYS.

as for Dez....passion is one thing, stupidity has no place.
I'm sure somebody is pointing out how lucky he was not getting flagged. My God, I almost kicked in the TV


It sounds like a few players have done this this year. Jarntt pointed out Beckham done it twice with no flag. I'm sure that will change starting now.

I thought I saw Murray take his helmet off after he scored but he put it right back on. Not sure if someone told him to or not.
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Post#24 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Jan 6, 2015 6:16 am

Earl Stevens wrote:How about that Cole Beasley kid though? Went from quitting to becoming a solid NFL player. I'm not sure where this offense would be without him now. What a 3rd down weapon he is. He could have had more catches if Romo made some better throws.

And after rewatching the game, I gotta rescind my original thoughts on how Romo played. Yes, Romo took some horrible sacks, but he never really put the offense at risk for a turnover and he eventually made up for those horrible sacks with that game-winning drive. Romo made a conscientious effort not to turn that football over yesterday and it makes me forgive him for some of those errant passes. Protecting the football is the most important thing a qb can do in a playoff game and Romo did his best not to turn it over. A back breaking interception would have hurt this team big time yesterday but Romo avoided it. I think I trust Romo more now to win a road playoff game more than I ever have before.

That was the one thing Romo didn't do, turn the ball over. However he did have one fumble but luckily we recovered it. What upset me with Romo was his lack of picking up blitz's and not throwing the ball away when he has nothing. After the back to back sacks and losing 18 yards I was so livid, I didn't even see the field goal. Had to walk around for a bit. Its these type of decisions that Romo makes in big games and in the playoffs that separates him from the very elite. If Romo doesn't improve in this area and never gets by the divisional round, he will never be crack the top 4 qb's in Cowboy history. I love presently his high level play, his focus and growth in maturity, however if we are to advance next week and beyond, Romo will have to make better decisions or the nice ride we have been on all year will come to a close.
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Post#25 » by RJ MacReady1 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 1:04 pm

I had planned on asking this question.

No question some of Romo's sacks were him holding the ball too long.

But some of those plays were he gets rocked immediately, Are they just blown assignments by the line or is Romo not reading
the blitz packages correctly?
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Post#26 » by RJ MacReady1 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 1:15 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Earl Stevens wrote:How about that Cole Beasley kid though? Went from quitting to becoming a solid NFL player. I'm not sure where this offense would be without him now. What a 3rd down weapon he is. He could have had more catches if Romo made some better throws.

And after rewatching the game, I gotta rescind my original thoughts on how Romo played. Yes, Romo took some horrible sacks, but he never really put the offense at risk for a turnover and he eventually made up for those horrible sacks with that game-winning drive. Romo made a conscientious effort not to turn that football over yesterday and it makes me forgive him for some of those errant passes. Protecting the football is the most important thing a qb can do in a playoff game and Romo did his best not to turn it over. A back breaking interception would have hurt this team big time yesterday but Romo avoided it. I think I trust Romo more now to win a road playoff game more than I ever have before.

That was the one thing Romo didn't do, turn the ball over. However he did have one fumble but luckily we recovered it. What upset me with Romo was his lack of picking up blitz's and not throwing the ball away when he has nothing. After the back to back sacks and losing 18 yards I was so livid, I didn't even see the field goal. Had to walk around for a bit. Its these type of decisions that Romo makes in big games and in the playoffs that separates him from the very elite. If Romo doesn't improve in this area and never gets by the divisional round, he will never be crack the top 4 qb's in Cowboy history. I love presently his high level play, his focus and growth in maturity, however if we are to advance next week and beyond, Romo will have to make better decisions or the nice ride we have been on all year will come to a close.


Trying to make something out of nothing is in Romo's DNA and it will never change. The more that is on the line on any given play, the tighter his grip on the ball gets. The only question is,will this get us to higher heights or lower lows.
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Post#27 » by Jarntt » Tue Jan 6, 2015 2:11 pm

RJ MacReady1 wrote:I had planned on asking this question.

No question some of Romo's sacks were him holding the ball too long.

But some of those plays were he gets rocked immediately, Are they just blown assignments by the line or is Romo not reading
the blitz packages correctly?


I think one in particular was so fast that there was pretty much nothing to do but eat it. 4 of them most QBs would have gotten rid of the ball. If you can count to 2 before the QB gets hit there is often reason to take the sack other than special cases like a blind side hit or when the pressure and the play just match up perfectly for the defense or the defender is in between him and where he wants to go with the ball. My point isn't the sacks as much as when he takes them. A sack after 5 seconds is always on the QB. The two FGs that he made much harder are inexcusable. However, if the last TD pass ended up in a sack it would have been fine. Whether it's a 21 yarder or a 29 yarder doesn't matter as long as there was no turnover since a FG ties the game. We wanted a TD there.

As far as the hot read goes, that has been perplexing for years to me. Does Romo have no clue what to do, do the receivers just not see the blitz and not break off their routes or is it just not clear in our Offense what should happen. If you watch Eli on a blitz (in Gilbride's Offense, not sure about this one) you can see he almost always had an outlet and normally uses it (remember their OL has been pathetic for a couple years now). Often he would throw it at the guys feet or sail it over his head, but there was at least an option. With us, even if you watch the play back and ignore the fact that Romo may not be able to see what you can in slo-mo I sometimes can't figure out what possible throw he could make unless he throws it at the feet of a guy running down the field. Maybe some of you that are at the game and can see the field have a better perspective on this. Regardless, these aren't teh plays I criticize him for. I think these are "don't get killed plays".
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Post#28 » by PDay8810 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 5:29 pm

"Are they just blown assignments by the line or is Romo not reading
the blitz packages correctly?"

Short answer: Combo of both

I think many fans loose sight of one very simple fact about this level.
Professional on BOTH sides.
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Post#29 » by PDay8810 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 5:39 pm

To me....Rodgers remains the best QB in pro football. He will have his success. We have to make sure the run efforts become minimal as the game goes on by plugging the gaps to allow LB's to run to the football. Better to have Rodgers become one dimensional. Lacy is the key to me. Thankfully GB seldom involves the TE. Their wides will have their moments, that's a given, but Lacy becomes the real key here.

Yes we gotta pound....BUT he also need to throw the football DOWN the field on play action.
Screen will also be huge this week.

GO COWBOYS!
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Post#30 » by Romotodez » Tue Jan 6, 2015 6:47 pm

One of the writers on Dc.com broke down every sack. Hearing Broaddus talk. Romo did hold the ball on some as we ALL know but they both mentioned that Parnell really struggled. On one of the sacks Cllutts Parnell and Murray all went to block the same guy. It sounded like Clutts was the one right. Now that Matthews comes from all over including the middle- they need to get that fixed
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Post#31 » by CarlHoudini » Tue Jan 6, 2015 9:53 pm

PDay8810 wrote:To me....Rodgers remains the best QB in pro football. He will have his success. We have to make sure the run efforts become minimal as the game goes on by plugging the gaps to allow LB's to run to the football. Better to have Rodgers become one dimensional. Lacy is the key to me. Thankfully GB seldom involves the TE. Their wides will have their moments, that's a given, but Lacy becomes the real key here.

Yes we gotta pound....BUT he also need to throw the football DOWN the field on play action.
Screen will also be huge this week.

GO COWBOYS!



With their style of offense and that last Washington game on film, there's no doubt in my mind about that. They're going to make Dallas prove they can sniff it out.
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Post#32 » by CarlHoudini » Tue Jan 6, 2015 9:59 pm

Personally, I'm getting concerned about the injuries. I know Doug Free is a hated man by some, and Parnell seems to be alright in pass protection, but I can't help but feel the running game doesn't look quite the same without Free out there. The ground game has been key all year, and I don't think that changes Sunday.
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Post#33 » by PDay8810 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:03 pm

CarlHoudini wrote:Personally, I'm getting concerned about the injuries. I know Doug Free is a hated man by some, and Parnell seems to be alright in pass protection, but I can't help but feel the running game doesn't look quite the same without Free out there. The ground game has been key all year, and I don't think that changes Sunday.

Yes Sir...Free is missed in the run game.
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Post#34 » by Romotodez » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:05 pm

I don't think Free plays again even if we advance
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Post#35 » by PDay8810 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:07 pm

well...half empty opinions would see it that way. We know he's out this Sunday.
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Post#36 » by CarlHoudini » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:13 pm

Romotodez wrote:I don't think Free plays again even if we advance



Really? Based on what? You may be right, but I thought he was week to week. I could be naive here, but I'm under the impression he's got a chance.
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Post#37 » by Romotodez » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:23 pm

He has bone spurs that are obviously giving him lots of problems. When you are getting ruled out on Mondays you are hurt, don't you think??? I could be wrong and hope I am. Nothing half empty about that opinion- it's a fact- the guy is hurt.
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Post#38 » by Romotodez » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:25 pm

CarlHoudini wrote:
Romotodez wrote:I don't think Free plays again even if we advance



Really? Based on what? You may be right, but I thought he was week to week. I could be naive here, but I'm under the impression he's got a chance.



Just going by what I hear and read. Maybe they are half empty opinions.
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Post#39 » by PDay8810 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 11:10 pm

Romotodez wrote:
CarlHoudini wrote:
Romotodez wrote:I don't think Free plays again even if we advance



Really? Based on what? You may be right, but I thought he was week to week. I could be naive here, but I'm under the impression he's got a chance.



Just going by what I hear and read. Maybe they are half empty opinions.

Is to me since he's week to week and you're looking two weeks out
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Post#40 » by Romotodez » Tue Jan 6, 2015 11:42 pm

PDay8810 wrote:
Romotodez wrote:
CarlHoudini wrote:

Really? Based on what? You may be right, but I thought he was week to week. I could be naive here, but I'm under the impression he's got a chance.



Just going by what I hear and read. Maybe they are half empty opinions.

Is to me since he's week to week and you're looking two weeks out



I gotcha. You are correct as well. It is said he is week to week.

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