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Re: GT: Hornets @ Boston Mon Jan 5 7:30PM EST 

Post#261 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jan 6, 2015 6:31 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:That's a roster problem as much as it is an individual one.


Its absolutely a roster problem. All our problems start with the lack of talent on the roster and poor roster composition.


I know I take my crusade against Cho to an extreme but it is good to know at least I am not entirely imagining things. Now maybe I'm a little more upset than I should be because the front office has been struck by misfortune, but it has been very difficult for me to come to terms with the poor roster composition. If you make a series of unwise decisions, eventually you will look unlucky.
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Boston Mon Jan 5 7:30PM EST 

Post#262 » by yosemiteben » Tue Jan 6, 2015 6:32 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Roberts is such a huge problem with this team.

He's played poorly his past several games and was terrible last night, but IMO he's not in the top 5 of problems with this team. He's posting decent shooting percentages and doesn't turn the ball over. I don't think we were expecting to get a dynamic playmaker from our backup PG spot, especially with him having to play with Neal and Lance for stretches (which, if our early season rotation is any indication, was the original plan). I would say he's a league average backup PG.
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Boston Mon Jan 5 7:30PM EST 

Post#263 » by yosemiteben » Tue Jan 6, 2015 6:39 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
fatlever wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:That's a roster problem as much as it is an individual one.


Its absolutely a roster problem. All our problems start with the lack of talent on the roster and poor roster composition.


I know I take my crusade against Cho to an extreme but it is good to know at least I am not entirely imagining things. Now maybe I'm a little more upset than I should be because the front office has been struck by misfortune, but it has been very difficult for me to come to terms with the poor roster composition. If you make a series of unwise decisions, eventually you will look unlucky.

I think that's a fair take, and I agree with fats as well. This team is definitely not composed in such a way that you can take away what were supposed to be two starters and two of its offensive weapons and expect to be able to have dynamic offensive sets. It absolutely was dependent on Al and Lance producing somewhat efficiently.
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Boston Mon Jan 5 7:30PM EST 

Post#264 » by ball teacher » Tue Jan 6, 2015 7:40 pm

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fatlever wrote:Tonight is the perfect example of a game where playing MKG and Biz in the 4th quarter
is impossible to do. The way the Celtics are pressing, we need guys who shoot and
create shots and handle the pressure. MKG turns into a deer in headlights sometmes
in games like this. So kudos to Clifford for making the right call and putting in Neal
and Marvin at the end. It was the right move, even if we still lose.


I completely disagree. MKG should play as long as he isnt hurt or in foul trouble. He's shown already that he can be a efficient scorer when put in position, why would you not play him when he is no liability? He's shooting about 70 percent from the free throw line, he makes the right plays, and he makes his teamates better. Neal was 2-12, how is he possibly a better option to close the game over MKG?
MKG's flaws can easilly be corrected if we had someone who actually sees him as more than a energy guy, for example, i'd have him work on developing a floater since he's a slasher, this could prevent alot of those charges where he over penetrates. I'd also have him work on attacking the rim aggressively and protecting the ball better cause he likes to take his man off the dribble, but not aggressively covering the ball causes him to not finish at the rate he should.
We owe it to him and the fans of the team to push him to be the best player he can be, instead we treat him like he's a liability when thats far from the truth. Calling timeouts to sub him out and only playing him on defense can wear on a ball player psychologically. Especially one who's never seen himself as a offensive liability. I completely disagree, MKG should be getting as many minutes as possible so he can have the experience to develop, his best years are yet to come and if we're gonna lose I'd rather we lose with him failing as opposed to Neal or Roberts stinking up the place.


I probably should have been more specific in my comment. Most nights I am completely on board with MKG playing as many 4th quarter minutes as his foul situation will allow. However, last night, once the Celtics started really trapping the ball handlers aggressively, MKG really disappeared. I am mostly talking about the last 5-6 minutes of the game. At that point in the game, I thought Clifford made the correct move by bringing in Neal and Marvin in place of MKG and Biz. Neal gave the team a 2nd ball handler and a great FT shooter and Marvin gave Kemba and outlet, someone who could bury a jumper when the defenders left to trap.

My comments were specific to that game and that particular situation not a blanket statement for all 4th quarters or all opponents.

Clifford has routinely been making the wrong adjustments in the 4th quarters this season. Last night I felt he got it right. It should be noted however, that he got it wrong by once again having the entire bench in the game at the end of the 3rd and early 4th. Although the primary problem was Brian Roberts who couldnt even initiate the offense w/out turning it over. I'm not sure there was any sub/lineup other than Kemba coming back in the game that would have solved the Roberts problem.


I can respect that, I thought you meant that you didnt think he deserved to play in the 4th quarter and last night was an example why. I got ya and that points valid.
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Boston Mon Jan 5 7:30PM EST 

Post#265 » by TheKingofSting » Wed Jan 7, 2015 3:21 am

Hopefully Cody can do this more often.
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Boston Mon Jan 5 7:30PM EST 

Post#266 » by Eoghan » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:13 am

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catch20two wrote:If Clifford had Biz in then we wouldn't be getting killed by Sully fat ass in the paint down the stretch. But no no no, Cliff gonna Cliff.


To be fair, we're all still a little traumatized from when Biz scored for the Celtics.

LP's fault, he just had to bitch about Biz's lack of scoring. :D
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Boston Mon Jan 5 7:30PM EST 

Post#267 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:17 am

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MasterIchiro wrote:
catch20two wrote:If Clifford had Biz in then we wouldn't be getting killed by Sully fat ass in the paint down the stretch. But no no no, Cliff gonna Cliff.


To be fair, we're all still a little traumatized from when Biz scored for the Celtics.

LP's fault, he just had to bitch about Biz's lack of scoring. :D


Lol. You son of a gun.

Edit: What about Zellers 20 point game there BD? ;)
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Boston Mon Jan 5 7:30PM EST 

Post#268 » by Eoghan » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:50 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
To be fair, we're all still a little traumatized from when Biz scored for the Celtics.

LP's fault, he just had to bitch about Biz's lack of scoring. :D


Lol. You son of a gun.

Edit: What about Zellers 20 point game there BD? ;)

If he doesn't average at least 20 points a game on 80% efficiency from here on out I'm calling him a bust.
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Boston Mon Jan 5 7:30PM EST 

Post#269 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:51 am

BrotherDave wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:LP's fault, he just had to bitch about Biz's lack of scoring. :D


Lol. You son of a gun.

Edit: What about Zellers 20 point game there BD? ;)

If he doesn't average at least 20 points a game on 80% efficiency from here on out I'm calling him a bust.


Just stick to me calling out Bonnell on twitter and we will call it even.
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Boston Mon Jan 5 7:30PM EST 

Post#270 » by Eoghan » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:54 am

I'll always be the 'shot clock' to your 'it's an issue, folks.'
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Boston Mon Jan 5 7:30PM EST 

Post#271 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:04 am

BrotherDave wrote:I'll always be the 'shot clock' to your 'it's an issue, folks.'


You ever get on here mentioning shot clock every possession and I might find you and kill you.

It could be an issue, folks.

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