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Post#941 » by Pointgod » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:38 pm

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Asianiac_24 wrote:A first rounder likely in the late 20s to 30s isn't worth Jordan Hill imo. I'd want at least one of TT or Waiters with the pick or its a no deal for me.


This is Jordan Hill, not Wilson Chandler.


They are the same level of player. To me, its either one of TT/Waiters and a pick or both TT/Waiters. A first round pick alone is too little for Hill, I'd rather just keep him instead.


You think Jordan Hill is going to get you two guys that were picked high in the lottery? :crazy: Remember we traded a heavily protected low first round pick just to get him and it's not like he's exactly lit the world on fire since then. Hill's value is a low first rounder.
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Post#942 » by Asianiac_24 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:27 am

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You think Jordan Hill is going to get you two guys that were picked high in the lottery? :crazy: Remember we traded a heavily protected low first round pick just to get him and it's not like he's exactly lit the world on fire since then. Hill's value is a low first rounder.


He hasn't lit the world on fire, but he has proved to be a very competent big man, which is a rare commodity right now. Waiters is a cancer right now, and TT hasn't shown anything yet. These two have both, for now, been busts for their draft slots. Hill's value is a mid-first, which is about the sum of Waiters/TT IMO.
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Post#943 » by Asianiac_24 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:28 am

Pointgod wrote:
You think Jordan Hill is going to get you two guys that were picked high in the lottery? :crazy: Remember we traded a heavily protected low first round pick just to get him and it's not like he's exactly lit the world on fire since then. Hill's value is a low first rounder.


He hasn't lit the world on fire, but he has proved to be a very competent big man, which is a rare commodity right now. Waiters is a cancer right now, and TT hasn't shown anything yet. These two have both, for now, been busts for their draft slots. Hill's value is a mid-first, which is about the sum of Waiters/TT IMO.
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Post#944 » by Asianiac_24 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:28 am

Pointgod wrote:
You think Jordan Hill is going to get you two guys that were picked high in the lottery? :crazy: Remember we traded a heavily protected low first round pick just to get him and it's not like he's exactly lit the world on fire since then. Hill's value is a low first rounder.


He hasn't lit the world on fire, but he has proved to be a very competent big man, which is a rare commodity right now. Waiters is a cancer right now, and TT hasn't shown anything yet. These two have both, for now, been busts for their draft slots. Hill's value is a mid-first, which is about the sum of Waiters/TT IMO.
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Post#945 » by Asianiac_24 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:29 am

Pointgod wrote:
You think Jordan Hill is going to get you two guys that were picked high in the lottery? :crazy: Remember we traded a heavily protected low first round pick just to get him and it's not like he's exactly lit the world on fire since then. Hill's value is a low first rounder.


He hasn't lit the world on fire, but he has proved to be a very competent big man, which is a rare commodity right now. Waiters is a cancer right now, and TT hasn't shown anything yet. These two have both, for now, been busts for their draft slots. Hill's value is a mid-first, which is about the sum of Waiters/TT IMO.
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Post#946 » by TyCobb » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:24 pm

Think Hibbert gets traded by the deadline?
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Post#947 » by Fresh360Waves » Thu Jan 1, 2015 1:17 am

TyCobb wrote:Think Hibbert gets traded by the deadline?


Perhaps depending on what the return would be. I think it would be good for both Indy and Hibbert. Are you suggesting the Lakers should go after him?
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Post#948 » by TyCobb » Thu Jan 1, 2015 4:12 am

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TyCobb wrote:Think Hibbert gets traded by the deadline?


Perhaps depending on what the return would be. I think it would be good for both Indy and Hibbert. Are you suggesting the Lakers should go after him?


I think he can be a decent player, but I'm not comfortable with having to count on him.
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Post#949 » by EdXDavis21 » Thu Jan 1, 2015 5:31 am

Roy Hibbert can probably be had for Hou's 1st round pick and some filler we're not looking to keep past this year..... maybe Nash and the Hou pick is enough to get him.
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Post#950 » by Danny Darko » Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:18 pm

I'm all about Hibbert. I know very well he's super streaky and has some mental fortitude issues, but to have a big center that can occasionally take over and can anchor a defense would be great.

Hibbert/Davis/Randle/E. Okafor would be great. The only situation where that sucks is if we snake into a position to draft J Okafor or Towns, but at this rate that's probably not statistically something we want to bank on and there's always Mudiay and Johnson.
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Post#951 » by Fresh360Waves » Sat Jan 3, 2015 9:55 pm

Danny Darko wrote:I'm all about Hibbert. I know very well he's super streaky and has some mental fortitude issues, but to have a big center that can occasionally take over and can anchor a defense would be great.

Hibbert/Davis/Randle/E. Okafor would be great. The only situation where that sucks is if we snake into a position to draft J Okafor or Towns, but at this rate that's probably not statistically something we want to bank on and there's always Mudiay and Johnson.


Good point, and who knows maybe Roy just needs a change of scenery. He may click with Byron and play at a better, consistent level. There was something in that Pacers locker room that had a negative vibe when PG and Lance were playing in the playoffs.
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Post#952 » by Danny Darko » Sat Jan 3, 2015 10:56 pm

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Danny Darko wrote:I'm all about Hibbert. I know very well he's super streaky and has some mental fortitude issues, but to have a big center that can occasionally take over and can anchor a defense would be great.

Hibbert/Davis/Randle/E. Okafor would be great. The only situation where that sucks is if we snake into a position to draft J Okafor or Towns, but at this rate that's probably not statistically something we want to bank on and there's always Mudiay and Johnson.


Good point, and who knows maybe Roy just needs a change of scenery. He may click with Byron and play at a better, consistent level. There was something in that Pacers locker room that had a negative vibe when PG and Lance were playing in the playoffs.


yeah, that's also a good point. Remember how Pau and Lamar played when there was whatever the hell happened behind the scenes with us before we tried to trade them? team chemistry is huge. Case in point- Seahawks ship off Percy Harvin and immediately start playing like champs again even though they lost tons of talent.
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Post#953 » by Penberthy » Sat Jan 3, 2015 11:14 pm

Why does Hibbert average so few boards? Haven't seen him play much.
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Post#954 » by Fresh360Waves » Sat Jan 3, 2015 11:26 pm

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Danny Darko wrote:I'm all about Hibbert. I know very well he's super streaky and has some mental fortitude issues, but to have a big center that can occasionally take over and can anchor a defense would be great.

Hibbert/Davis/Randle/E. Okafor would be great. The only situation where that sucks is if we snake into a position to draft J Okafor or Towns, but at this rate that's probably not statistically something we want to bank on and there's always Mudiay and Johnson.


Good point, and who knows maybe Roy just needs a change of scenery. He may click with Byron and play at a better, consistent level. There was something in that Pacers locker room that had a negative vibe when PG and Lance were playing in the playoffs.


yeah, that's also a good point. Remember how Pau and Lamar played when there was whatever the hell happened behind the scenes with us before we tried to trade them? team chemistry is huge. Case in point- Seahawks ship off Percy Harvin and immediately start playing like champs again even though they lost tons of talent.


Yeah I remember that. Some false rumor got spread around. I think Shannon Brown was involved some kind of way too, but I'm not sure. Still scratching my head about the Jets acquiring Percy Harvin. At least their GM got fired. *shrugs*
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Post#955 » by PKABOOICU » Mon Jan 5, 2015 4:50 am

I would actually be for hibbert. His contract isn't a good one, but he's surely a serviceable starting Center. Too much offense was expected out of him though. He's a premier interior defender and decent rebounder. I guess thats all you can really ask for in a center nowadays.
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Post#956 » by Penberthy » Mon Jan 5, 2015 5:19 am

Hibbert looks really stiff/slow/unathletic.
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Post#957 » by LApwnd » Tue Jan 6, 2015 5:30 pm

why trade for Hibbert? He's expected to opt out of his contract after this season, we're not gona make the playoffs and giving up any asset for another uncertainty in a player like Hibbert is dumb. If they want him just wait for the off-season.
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Post#958 » by LApwnd » Tue Jan 6, 2015 5:51 pm

Seeing what the Cavs got in the Waiters trade, I'm pretty disappointed in mgmt. Clev managed to get players they could use in addition to a 1st rd pick. Why can't we do stuff like that? We got a boat load of cap room, are they really that stuck on waiting every off-season for absolute cap space? I mean it took Dall 4-5 yrs before they finally took hold of their space and what they do? MAX out a marginal player in Parsons but they always mgmt. to add picks and useful players during those times and managed to keep in contention. We have sunk to the bottom of the West and still don't seem to have any asset or that bright of a future.
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Post#959 » by Laker_Kid » Tue Jan 6, 2015 7:13 pm

i'd hold my tongue until after the trade deadline passes if i were you.

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Post#960 » by LApwnd » Tue Jan 6, 2015 8:13 pm

Laker_Kid wrote:i'd hold my tongue until after the trade deadline passes if i were you.

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