Finding a Backup for Buckets

exospheer · Post #1 » by **exospheer** » Tue Jan 6, 2015 8:54 pm

Who is a realistic option for a backup for Jimmy Buckets that we can trade for or sign? Is Ray Allen going to play this year?

ryannik09 · Post #2 » by **ryannik09** » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:08 pm

Jae Crowder for 5-10 mins a game

Nucky Thompson · Post #3 » by **Nucky Thompson** » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:11 pm

A healhty McDermott.

Gray Poster · Post #4 » by **Gray Poster** » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:12 pm

MDJ, Captain Kirk and Tony Snell are better than any unsigned FA out there right now. The D-League has no one really. I liked Quincy Miller, but he is not an answer at the 2.

T-MAC anyone???

The Explorer · Post #5 » by **The Explorer** » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:38 pm

Doug McDermott is the backup. He'll return in a few more weeks.

panthermark · Post #6 » by **panthermark** » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:50 pm

Kurt is the back-up for Jimmy (at SG).
Sometimes Rose slides to SG and Brooks plays PG.
Now if you are talking SF...well....MDJ SHOULD be the back-up SF, but he is the starter. However, it looks like we have two rookies that will be just fine as back-up/time-share SF's.

Post #7 » by **Rerisen** » Tue Jan 6, 2015 11:03 pm

Yeah its Hinrich, but he looked pretty feeble trying to guard James Harden.

Seeing his effort juxtaposed vs the juggernaut that is Butler, one half vs the other, shows just how big the gap is, and how far Kirk's defense has slid since the days he was locking up prime Wade.

panthermark · Post #8 » by **panthermark** » Tue Jan 6, 2015 11:13 pm

Snell has all the tools to be a 3&D wing. Too bad he can't put it together.

Jeremy Lamb? (Snell and Moore) He is another guy that lacks faith in himself (or something)....but with the latest trade...there are basically no minutes for him. Plus...the Thunder could use whatever salary relief they can get.

unknownnewbie · Post #9 » by **unknownnewbie** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 1:23 am

Rerisen wrote:Yeah its Hinrich, but he looked pretty feeble trying to guard James Harden.

Seeing his effort juxtaposed vs the juggernaut that is Butler, one half vs the other, shows just how big the gap is, and how far Kirk's defense has slid since the days he was locking up prime Wade.

In Hinrich's defense, he is smaller than both Butler and Harden, both heightwise and in terms of weight. Most SGs aren't as big or strong as Harden. And after those first few possessions of the game (I think he started 3-for-4), Harden didn't torch Hinrich -- Harden shot 7-for-13 in the first half which is good, but not ridiculously so. And he wasn't getting to the FT line. Obviously it looks bad compared to Jimmy totally locking him down after halftime, but in terms of a James Harden performance (he does lead the league in scoring, remember) it wasn't anything remarkable.

Yes, his defense has slipped, but it is still solid enough on a night in, night out basis. Hinrich is still the best option on the team to be the backup at SG. He's a far better defender than Brooks or McDermott and he is also slightly better than Snell (who still tends to get lost on defense at times). And he is a more reliable offensive weapon than Snell or Moore or (based on McD's performance so far) McDermott.

In terms of trying to bring anyone in, I don't see the team having any real urgency in wanting to mess with a good thing, especially now that the team seems to be gelling. Unless they can get a major upgrade over Kirk at a relatively bargain price (which isn't likely) before the trade deadline, I wouldn't be surprised if the FO puts off worrying about this issue until the offseason.

dafunky1 · Post #10 » by **dafunky1** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 1:32 am

panthermark wrote:Snell has all the tools to be a 3&D wing. Too bad he can't put it together.

Jeremy Lamb? (Snell and Moore) He is another guy that lacks faith in himself (or something)....but with the latest trade...there are basically no minutes for him. Plus...the Thunder could use whatever salary relief they can get.

Was thinking the same about Jeremy Lamb....prolly have to give OKC a 1st along with Snell/Moore.

unknownnewbie · Post #11 » by **unknownnewbie** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 1:43 am

dafunky1 wrote:
panthermark wrote:Snell has all the tools to be a 3&D wing. Too bad he can't put it together.

Jeremy Lamb? (Snell and Moore) He is another guy that lacks faith in himself (or something)....but with the latest trade...there are basically no minutes for him. Plus...the Thunder could use whatever salary relief they can get.

Was thinking the same about Jeremy Lamb....prolly have to give OKC a 1st along with Snell/Moore.

Is Lamb a good defender? I haven't seen him play enough to know how he plays on that end of the floor. He's not really much better of a shooter than Hinrich...in fact worse from 3-point range.

SimonFish · Post #12 » by **SimonFish** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 1:46 am

Realistically? This thread begins and ends with Wesley Johnson.

JohnnyKILLroy · Post #13 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 1:47 am

Wes just got hurt.

Crowder is the correct answer.

SearsTower · Post #14 » by **SearsTower** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 1:55 am

Kirk Hinrich.

Enough with this Ray Allen stuff already, please.

ryannik09 · Post #15 » by **ryannik09** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 3:13 am

Crowder is the answer, solid defender, 33-35% from 3, makes $900k so the Bulls would only need to move a vet min contract to trade for him. He can play a little offense, he is from Marquette and went to Jr College before going to Marquette just like Butler, he can spell Butler for 10 mins a game

Boardwalker · Post #16 » by **Boardwalker** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 3:25 am

I like the team as it is, but I wouldn't be opposed to somehow acquiring Arron Afflalo. Brooks and Afflalo off the bench would be murder for other teams.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #17 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 3:48 am

Wayne Ellington for Snell and our first.

whodey · Post #18 » by **whodey** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 3:59 am

Boardwalker wrote:I like the team as it is, but I wouldn't be opposed to somehow acquiring Arron Afflalo. Brooks and Afflalo off the bench would be murder for other teams.

If, and it's a big if, we could get Afflalo for Snell, Dunleavy, and a 2nd rounder. That's a championship all in move.

Rose / Brooks
Afflalo / Hinrich / Rose
Butler / Afflalo / Mirotic
Noah / Gibson / Mirotic
Gasol / Noah / Gibson

Easily the best 9 man rotation in basketball. So many possibilities. You play Afflalo in the Noah role. Play him for the first 7 minutes of the first and third quarter. The bring him back in for Butler to start the second and fourth quarter. Get Jimmy 7-11 minutes rest every game.

mhsiao · Post #19 » by **mhsiao** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 4:01 am

It is one thing finding a backup for bucket we fans wants, it is another thing finding a backup that Thibs will play.

I am going to throw a name that makes everyone throw up..

Keith Bogans.

That is type of player Thibs will insert to line up at day one because he knows Thib's system.

musiqsoulchild · Post #20 » by **musiqsoulchild** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 4:07 am

Rerisen wrote:Yeah its Hinrich, but he looked pretty feeble trying to guard James Harden.

Seeing his effort juxtaposed vs the juggernaut that is Butler, one half vs the other, shows just how big the gap is, and how far Kirk's defense has slid since the days he was locking up prime Wade.

We are going to use defense against an MVP candidate now to show that the talent drop off from Jimmy to Kirk is large?

Come on man.

Harden is several inches taller and many leagues better than Kirk.