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Jeanie Buss says she will hold Jim Buss to three-year timeline 

Post#1 » by leeprettyp » Wed Jan 7, 2015 2:00 pm

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-jeanie-buss-hold-jim-buss-timeline-20150106-story.html

Jeanie speaks up on the current Lakers situation, how she plans to hold her brother accountable for his timeline to get this team back into contention. Also how this franchise hasnt lost its luster with top free agents.. Makes you believe we'll be making a splash this offseason with the F.A. class if we plan to at least be competitive with Kobe still on the roster. Although it seems we may have dodged a bullet with the possible Melo signing this past offseason.

"Yeah, of course," Buss told The Times at the 11th annual Lakers All-Access event at Staples Center on Tuesday night. "But I don't see why -- given the resources, given our legacy, given who our head coach is, who our front office is -- [we'll have] any problem."

Jim Buss announced his deadline to the six Buss siblings, primary owners of the franchise, vowing the Lakers will advance at least to the Western Conference finals within a few seasons.

"It was a private conversation with our family but I understand why he said it. I mean, I don't understand why he said it but I don't think it'll be a concern," said Jeanie Buss. "I think he presented a challenge to himself, but I don't know why he made that public.

"'We'll be contending,' that's what he said. 'We'll be in the Western Conference finals within three years.' I think as long as you have Kobe Bryant on your team, anything can happen in the playoffs."

Jeanie Buss took a more active, albeit limited, role this summer in trying to sway big-name free agents to join the Lakers, although Carmelo Anthony chose instead to stay in New York with the Knicks.

"It's important, especially for the high-profile players ... that they know who the key players are in an organization, both on the basketball side and on the business side," she said. "I'm part of the overall message, but when it comes to basketball, they excuse me from the room. I'm not part of the basketball discussion."


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Post#2 » by Dr Aki » Wed Jan 7, 2015 2:30 pm

i hope she doesn't hire phil once he's fired
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Post#3 » by LApwnd » Wed Jan 7, 2015 3:56 pm

if one of the top 3 current NBA players isn't in a Laker after this season, Jeanine and Jim need to put down the crack pipe. there's no chance they can be a WC title game contending within the next 2 years if they're rebuilding with rookies.
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Post#4 » by iamworthy » Wed Jan 7, 2015 4:23 pm

I'm slowly starting to walk away from the idea of landing a top 3 player or a mega star. Getting Kevin Durant, or LeBron James at this point does nothing for me. Both of those guys are currently having a hard enough time winning on the team's they are on and they have far better supporting players that we have. When Miami had the big three had the spurs made their free throws and Ray Allen not hit a clutch 3 they would have won only one ring. Instead of targeting Durant let's target guys like Jimmy butler and so forth. Instead of getting one superstar and a side kick give me 4 really good guys and 4 role players. It seems like our scouting department sucks. I could be wrong but it appears that way.
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Post#5 » by leeprettyp » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:21 pm

Iamworthy I agree bro. We seriously need to start filling out the roster with talent. Starting PG, Starting SF and Starting C positions are the main targets IMO. This offseason has some depth at those positions. Affalo, R. Jackson and Koufo sound enticing fellas? All 3 of those guys would help immediately. (we could just move Kobe to the SF position next season)
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Post#6 » by aaron_gray » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:35 pm

I would hold him to a 3 year timeline if a. we had all our picks and b. this was in the east. Completeling a full rebuild and then making the playoffs in 3 years is almost impossible when you have to win 50 games to get into the playoffs. Plus, Randle being injured means that he'll be one step behind in terms of development on Buss's timeline. Look at the Magic. They have tons of young talent, which is what every team going through a rebuild wants, yet they are still 3 games back of the 8th seed. They don't have a KD or AD, but they did everything else right. They grabbed to prospects in trades, they found guys in the draft and they have yet to reach the next level.

Also, instead of going for the Jimmy Butler's of the world, a more realistic thing would be to find the next Eric Bledsoe. Everyone's going to offer him the max, which means that he'll just pick the team he likes the most.
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Post#7 » by Michael Lucky » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:57 pm

She kind of has to now that Jim made himself the scapegoat to the general public for everything when he made that proclamation.
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Post#8 » by Slava » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:00 pm

iamworthy wrote:I'm slowly starting to walk away from the idea of landing a top 3 player or a mega star. Getting Kevin Durant, or LeBron James at this point does nothing for me. Both of those guys are currently having a hard enough time winning on the team's they are on and they have far better supporting players that we have. When Miami had the big three had the spurs made their free throws and Ray Allen not hit a clutch 3 they would have won only one ring. Instead of targeting Durant let's target guys like Jimmy butler and so forth. Instead of getting one superstar and a side kick give me 4 really good guys and 4 role players. It seems like our scouting department sucks. I could be wrong but it appears that way.


That did not work well for the Nuggets. You need one top-5 player in the league or multiple top 10 players to win anything in this league.
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Post#9 » by Slava » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:01 pm

I do hope Jimmy doesn't do anything drastic like trade picks for vets to get his timeline going.
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Post#10 » by Kilroy » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:08 pm

Do not believe for a second that Jeanie would actually fire Jim if we weren't in contention in 3 years. So I don't for a second believe Jim is feeling any pressure to do anything drastic... Stupid, maybe, but not out of fear for his job.
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Post#11 » by Michael Lucky » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:11 pm

Kilroy wrote:Do not believe for a second that Jeanie would actually fire Jim if we weren't in contention in 3 years. So I don't for a second believe Jim is feeling any pressure to do anything drastic... Stupid, maybe, but not out of fear for his job.

She wouldn't fire him. He'd resign technically due to public pressure to follow up on his deadline.
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Post#12 » by Kilroy » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:16 pm

Don't believe that either. 8-)

I mean, if you think about it, we're really only a player or 2 from the playoffs right now. Things change when Kobe retires... IF he retires when he says he is... (I think a conference final contender would change his mind)
Obviously, there's a big difference from a playoff team to a legit WCF threat, but if we did get into the playoff hunt, I would bet the pressure on Jim would ease substantially. Not only from fans, but also because a playoff team in LA basically fills out it's own roster to become a WCF Contender.
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Post#13 » by iamworthy » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:23 pm

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iamworthy wrote:I'm slowly starting to walk away from the idea of landing a top 3 player or a mega star. Getting Kevin Durant, or LeBron James at this point does nothing for me. Both of those guys are currently having a hard enough time winning on the team's they are on and they have far better supporting players that we have. When Miami had the big three had the spurs made their free throws and Ray Allen not hit a clutch 3 they would have won only one ring. Instead of targeting Durant let's target guys like Jimmy butler and so forth. Instead of getting one superstar and a side kick give me 4 really good guys and 4 role players. It seems like our scouting department sucks. I could be wrong but it appears that way.


That did not work well for the Nuggets. You need one top-5 player in the league or multiple top 10 players to win anything in this league.


Top 5, I don't know about that. Top 10, maybe.Who are your top 10 players right now? Let's see if I can build a team without any of those guys... Within reason.
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Post#14 » by Michael Lucky » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:30 pm

Yeah the spurs didn't exactly have a top 5 or multiple top 10 players last year when they won it all. Having said that the premise is generally correct, since most championship teams fit that description. Houston - Hakeem Bulls - (Jordan/Pippen) 99 Spurs (Duncan/Robinson) Lakers (Shack/ Kobe) Spurs- Duncan - Mia (Shaq/Wade) Boston (KG/Pierce) Lakers - (Kobe/Pau) - Mavs (Dirk who was the best player on earth during the playoffs) - MIami(Lebron - Wade)

The only exceptions are 04 Pistons and 14 Spurs in the last 20 years


as for top 10 players, i'd personally have right now in no order:

Curry, Westbrook, Durant, Lebron, AD, Cp3, Harden, Lillard, Marc Gasol, Lowry. I could make an argument for Cousins as well.
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Post#15 » by leeprettyp » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:34 pm

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iamworthy wrote:I'm slowly starting to walk away from the idea of landing a top 3 player or a mega star. Getting Kevin Durant, or LeBron James at this point does nothing for me. Both of those guys are currently having a hard enough time winning on the team's they are on and they have far better supporting players that we have. When Miami had the big three had the spurs made their free throws and Ray Allen not hit a clutch 3 they would have won only one ring. Instead of targeting Durant let's target guys like Jimmy butler and so forth. Instead of getting one superstar and a side kick give me 4 really good guys and 4 role players. It seems like our scouting department sucks. I could be wrong but it appears that way.


That did not work well for the Nuggets. You need one top-5 player in the league or multiple top 10 players to win anything in this league.



Who's a top 10 player on the Spurs or Mavs right now? And both teams are contenders in the West
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Post#16 » by Kilroy » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:37 pm

It's not a 'top 10' vs the rest problem though, it's a 'max player' problem, and the fact that there are plenty of teams out there willing to give a guy like Chandler Parsons the Max... It gets really hard to fill out your roster with solid role players, when idiots want to max them out.
I think I get what you're saying though... LeBron and Durant are the best players in the league, but they've likely reached the limits of their potential, and LeBron at least seems to be declining physically... The other guys are on a lower tier. There are a few guys that might be heading for the top, like Brow... But most of them, like him, are basically untouchable.
The other top players like Melo, and Rose, etc, are falling fast, so the sweet spot is with guys like Gasol and Westbrook, who may not be the top-top players in the league, and by themselves, are not the threats guys like Gasol and LeBron are, but they're definitely not role-players either... And if you could get 3 or 4 guys to come together in that upper-middle class tier, and if they complimented each other well, and if they bought into the idea of playing together enough to make it happen, you might be in better shape... Jimmy Butler/Westbrook/Gasol would be pretty damn nice... Especially if you still had Randle and pieces... Or if Kobe decided not to retire...

That said, I'm not sure that's any easier to pull off than getting a guy like LeBron and building around him.

I theory I agree with the plan... I say we start going after young and talented players and see if we can come up with a complimentary group... Unless an Anthony Davis falls in our lap. That's essentially what OKC and Houston did respectively.
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Post#17 » by Michael Lucky » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:40 pm

I think more teams were willing to offer max contracts last year to the Parsons and Hayward because with the increase in the cap the number they are making now is what you'd typically consider a normal deal for that type of player in a year or two. Those teams just took a head start basically.
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Post#18 » by Kilroy » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:44 pm

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iamworthy wrote:I'm slowly starting to walk away from the idea of landing a top 3 player or a mega star. Getting Kevin Durant, or LeBron James at this point does nothing for me. Both of those guys are currently having a hard enough time winning on the team's they are on and they have far better supporting players that we have. When Miami had the big three had the spurs made their free throws and Ray Allen not hit a clutch 3 they would have won only one ring. Instead of targeting Durant let's target guys like Jimmy butler and so forth. Instead of getting one superstar and a side kick give me 4 really good guys and 4 role players. It seems like our scouting department sucks. I could be wrong but it appears that way.


That did not work well for the Nuggets. You need one top-5 player in the league or multiple top 10 players to win anything in this league.



Who's a top 10 player on the Spurs or Mavs right now? And both teams are contenders in the West


Missleading examples... Niether one of them fit, because Dirk, Duncan, Parker and maybe even Ginobili have all been top 10 players in their careers on those teams... So they didn't have to be acquired, just kept...
Apples/oranges to our situation.

Portland and Atlanta, etc, may be better examples... Would the top players on those teams be in the 'Top 10' discussion if they weren't on those teams?
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Post#19 » by Michael Lucky » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:45 pm

Kilroy wrote:
leeprettyp wrote:
Slava wrote:
That did not work well for the Nuggets. You need one top-5 player in the league or multiple top 10 players to win anything in this league.



Who's a top 10 player on the Spurs or Mavs right now? And both teams are contenders in the West


Missleading examples... Niether one of them fit, because Dirk, Duncan, Parker and maybe even Ginobili have all been top 10 players in their careers on those teams... So they didn't have to be acquired, just kept...
Apples/oranges to our situation.

Portland and Atlanta, etc, may be better examples... Would the top players on those teams be in the 'Top 10' discussion if they weren't on those teams?


I don't know about you, but Lillard definitely looks like he would be, you have a point with Atlanta though. They have their offensive system down to perfection right now.
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Post#20 » by Kilroy » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:50 pm

I think Lillard is in a really good situation for him. I'm not sure his game would be as dominant on another team.
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