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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#161 » by KGboss » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:50 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I am starting to wonder how much luck the Celtics will actually have trading Green. He is going to opt out and if teams really want to go after him they can in free agency. Not sure they want to give up picks and players for a 4 month rental.


Bass is an expiring as well.

We will get peanuts for both if we trade them, but they will both walk in the off season anyway. 99% sure of that at this point.
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#162 » by mwhis21 » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:57 pm

Would you, or would Charlotte do something like the following:

Jeff Green for Gerald Henderson and Brian Roberts. Celtics would probably waive one of Nelson/Pressey/Roberts

Charlotte gets an upgrade in Green to help make a run at the playoffs / show fans they care.

Boston gets, well not much: Henderson is decent off the bench and expiring next year. Roberts makes the salaries work.

I don't know just a thought about a team that might be in the market.
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#163 » by darrendaye » Wed Jan 7, 2015 5:57 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I am starting to wonder how much luck the Celtics will actually have trading Green. He is going to opt out and if teams really want to go after him they can in free agency. Not sure they want to give up picks and players for a 4 month rental.


I have been of the belief that a team likely will not give up an expiring and a 1st for him for some time. With the POSSIBLE exception of a team like Memphis that might believe the upgrade this year might net them a ring. Otherwise, I think you are looking at a pick only for team looking for cap space next year. Which is why Eric Gordon is go heavily mentioned in hypotheticals on here.
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#164 » by Banks2Pierce » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:28 pm

GreenMachine wrote:An injury could put any team "on the hook" in any trade for any non-expiring player. Everything I have heard is just the opposite... that teams don't want to give up a 1st for a half year rental... and Danny doesn't want to trade him for less then a 1st. I think the market would be bigger, not smaller, if Green was locked up for next season.


Yea, the market probably would be bigger. I'm saying that teams already pay small for rentals and this rental also comes with the caveat that you could get screwed out of $9m in cap space, issues with compounding lux tax, etc.
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#165 » by 15th overall » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:31 pm

Pray that those reports of Jeff holding more trade value than Rondo ring true.
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#166 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:37 pm

darrendaye wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I am starting to wonder how much luck the Celtics will actually have trading Green. He is going to opt out and if teams really want to go after him they can in free agency. Not sure they want to give up picks and players for a 4 month rental.


I have been of the belief that a team likely will not give up an expiring and a 1st for him for some time. With the POSSIBLE exception of a team like Memphis that might believe the upgrade this year might net them a ring. Otherwise, I think you are looking at a pick only for team looking for cap space next year. Which is why Eric Gordon is go heavily mentioned in hypotheticals on here.


Memphis, Chicago, New Orleans are the teams who have incentive to pay the most for him, IMO- two contenders who can give up expirings and a 1st, a fringe team that needs to shake things up and could part ways with Evans or Ryan Anderson..
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#167 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:38 pm

mwhis21 wrote:Would you, or would Charlotte do something like the following:

Jeff Green for Gerald Henderson and Brian Roberts. Celtics would probably waive one of Nelson/Pressey/Roberts

Charlotte gets an upgrade in Green to help make a run at the playoffs / show fans they care.

Boston gets, well not much: Henderson is decent off the bench and expiring next year. Roberts makes the salaries work.

I don't know just a thought about a team that might be in the market.


Nope. I get the 'show fans they care' angle, but I don't think Charlotte's making the postseason. Henderson's a nice player, but you'd have to send him to a third team willing to give up a cheaper asset (!st, prospect)
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#168 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:39 pm

darrendaye wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I am starting to wonder how much luck the Celtics will actually have trading Green. He is going to opt out and if teams really want to go after him they can in free agency. Not sure they want to give up picks and players for a 4 month rental.


I have been of the belief that a team likely will not give up an expiring and a 1st for him for some time. With the POSSIBLE exception of a team like Memphis that might believe the upgrade this year might net them a ring. Otherwise, I think you are looking at a pick only for team looking for cap space next year. Which is why Eric Gordon is go heavily mentioned in hypotheticals on here.


I agree with this. Yeah Gordon does make some sense. Like you said about Memphis maybe there is a team or two out there that believes Green will help them make a deep playoff run.

Overall I am disappointed by Green. He is talented and was playing great until he decided to shut it down after the Rondo trade. To me Green is acting like my 9 year old when I ask him to clean his room. He does not want to do it, he pouts, huffs and puffs, whines and does a half assed job.
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#169 » by KJandHondo35 » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:41 pm

I guess you hold out until a team like Memphis gets desperate and wants to make the push, but he looks like death in the court right now. Moping around, not doing anything on defense. He's tanking his value and the teams morale, do you make up an injury just to protect the value he has? You'd think he would be pumped up to play himself on to a new team obviously not happening... Pretty disappointed, always liked the guy before he started being all like:

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Post#170 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:59 pm

KJandHondo35 wrote:I guess you hold out until a team like Memphis gets desperate and wants to make the push, but he looks like death in the court right now. Moping around, not doing anything on defense. He's tanking his value and the teams morale, do you make up an injury just to protect the value he has? You'd think he would be pumped up to play himself on to a new team obviously not happening... Pretty disappointed, always liked the guy before he started being all like:



Yup, well- Green's turned out to be way more entitled than I would've expected. But the NBA's so different now with Internet coverage and fan participation- I'm sure players have made faces like that for the last 30 years, but it's only in the last few that they can be made into vines.
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Post#171 » by CelticFaninLBC » Wed Jan 7, 2015 7:02 pm

Hopefully Green is headed to PHX soon, along with Bradley, for Thomas, Plumlee and Ennis.
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Post#172 » by Afam » Wed Jan 7, 2015 7:16 pm

KJandHondo35 wrote:I guess you hold out until a team like Memphis gets desperate and wants to make the push, but he looks like death in the court right now. Moping around, not doing anything on defense. He's tanking his value and the teams morale, do you make up an injury just to protect the value he has? You'd think he would be pumped up to play himself on to a new team obviously not happening... Pretty disappointed, always liked the guy before he started being all like:



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Post#173 » by Afam » Wed Jan 7, 2015 7:20 pm

I was a big supporter of Bradley, but not anymore. He brings nothing special to the table. He is no longer a pest on defense, he is not a PG, too undersized to play the Shooting Guard position. Furthermore his dribbling is very mediocre at best. I would definitely package him and green, and see if it could land us a star player like Cousins. Bradley is severely overrated here.

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Post#174 » by ryaningf » Wed Jan 7, 2015 7:27 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Hopefully Green is headed to PHX soon, along with Bradley, for Thomas, Plumlee and Ennis.


Ennis would make little sense on our roster.

If I'm making a deal with PHX involving Green I'm getting TJ Warren. SF of the future, great at getting to the line and scoring without plays getting run for him. Green for Warren + IT works salary wise. We'd have to throw in a pick too I'd assume.

CHA also has loads of intriguing young talent who'd make a nice return for Green. Anyone outta MKG (unlikely, but I'd inquire), Hairston, Vonleh would suffice, though we'd likely need a 3rd team to make the #s work.
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#175 » by ballup » Wed Jan 7, 2015 7:39 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Hopefully Green is headed to PHX soon, along with Bradley, for Thomas, Plumlee and Ennis.

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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#176 » by rmal8852 » Wed Jan 7, 2015 8:11 pm

No one ever talks about Detroit as a landing spot for Green, and maybe even Bass, but I think they would be a good fit with us as trading partners, especially for Green.

They have won 6 in a row since Smith has been gone. I have no doubt that vanGundy wants to make the playoffs. Given that:

1.a three like Green gives them a front-court of Drummond/Monroe/Green (which would be one of the best in basketball for now and the near future) and
2. given that Monroe and Green are Hoya buddies and Detroit would have both their Bird-rights, getting Green would make it more enticing for Monroe to stay and
3. getting Green fills the hole at the 3 that Josh Smith (square peg, round hole) was unsuccessfully forced into, they might be interested.

Something like Green for KCP, Jerebko and a pick?

Or expand the trade to include Bass and Nelson (two of SVG's boys from Orlando Magic days) or Bradley and get back Jennings and Butler to balance the roster and the $$$. Jennings has been playing out of his mind lately (buzzer beater last night, 35 the other night) but vanGundy early on wanted to dump him with Smith.
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#177 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Jan 7, 2015 8:16 pm

rmal8852 wrote:No one ever talks about Detroit as a landing spot for Green, and maybe even Bass, but I think they would be a good fit with us as trading partners, especially for Green.

They have won 6 in a row since Smith has been gone. I have no doubt that vanGundy wants to make the playoffs. Given that:

1.a three like Green gives them a front-court of Drummond/Monroe/Green (which would be one of the best in basketball for now and the near future) and
2. given that Monroe and Green are Hoya buddies and Detroit would have both their Bird-rights, getting Green would make it more enticing for Monroe to stay and
3. getting Green fills the hole at the 3 that Josh Smith (square peg, round hole) was unsuccessfully forced into, they might be interested.

Something like Green for KCP, Jerebko and a pick?

Or expand the trade to include Bass and Nelson (two of SVG's boys from Orlando Magic days) or Bradley and get back Jennings and Butler to balance the roster and the $$$. Jennings has been playing out of his mind lately (buzzer beater last night, 35 the other night) but vanGundy early on wanted to dump him with Smith.

No to Jennings. Jennings is garbage. Detroit is rebuilding, they are not giving up KCP or a first round pick.
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#178 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jan 7, 2015 8:37 pm

Yeah, Green would fit nicely in Detroit, but I don't think they'll give up their first-rounder.. You might be able to get a future 1st- maybe 2016, top 3 protected, or one of those 1-5, 15-30 protected ones..
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Post#179 » by GreenMachine » Wed Jan 7, 2015 8:40 pm

andy582 wrote:Yeah, Green would fit nicely in Detroit, but I don't think they'll give up their first-rounder.. You might be able to get a future 1st- maybe 2016, top 3 protected, or one of those 1-5, 15-30 protected ones..


Even if they were willing to give up a future pick... it won't be a lotto pick. NO WAY they trade a "top 3 protected, or one of those 1-5, 15-30" - if anything it would be "lotto protected" or at the very least "top 12 protected."
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Re: Rumor:Celtics Are Actively Looking to Trade Both Jeff Green & Bass. 

Post#180 » by FakeScreenName123 » Wed Jan 7, 2015 8:49 pm

15th overall wrote:Pray that those reports of Jeff holding more trade value than Rondo ring true.



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