Trade Ideas Thread

[Andrew McCeltic]

BOS Mason Plumlee
BRK. Jeff Green

Why-
Honestly trying to be realistic. Many of these suggested trades are home runs for the Cs. Jeff Green makes BRK better this year and is expiring. Plumlee has decent upside and is exactly what the Celtics need. Plumlee has fallen out of favor with Lionel hollins

Home run trades are the ones to go after. This trade is like a sacrifice bunt. Plumlee's a center, yeah, but he's fallen out of favor with his coach- Green, on the other hand, is having the best season of his career. It's a huge overpay.

Do you still feel this way??

About going for home run trades? Yeah. You can always fall back on small deals. About this trade? Ask again in a month. Right now Green is slumping and Plumlee is looking good- I think Green+ for Lopez is more likely at this point..

[underneathtoDJ]

Would you do Green and Wright for Lopez? Would BKL do the deal?

[15th overall]

Couple of nuggets dropped by Ken Berger in a recent article. Both of which we either knew or expected, but potential trade options for us nonetheless:

• LAC is shopping hard for a SF
• Charlotte is still looking for bigman help.

[TommyPointGawd]

Home run trades are the ones to go after. This trade is like a sacrifice bunt. Plumlee's a center, yeah, but he's fallen out of favor with his coach- Green, on the other hand, is having the best season of his career. It's a huge overpay.

Do you still feel this way??

About going for home run trades? Yeah. You can always fall back on small deals. About this trade? Ask again in a month. Right now Green is slumping and Plumlee is looking good- I think Green+ for Lopez is more likely at this point..

My point is the NBA has scouts they know what Jeff Green is and isn't. You can't trick most teams. Even if Jeff goes on a tear his value will be relatively the same. Knowing the Celtics want him gone it can only really go down.
You said this is a sac bunt now it's not even feasible. That is probably what Danny did with rondo and ended up with peanuts.

[greenroom31]

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Sort of, maybe, kind of interesting??

Probably not...

[RR9]

I just had a terrifying revelation.

In the wake of the Cle/Okc/Nyk deal, a follow up of Wright for J.R. Smith and the OKC pick Cleveland just got makes a terrifying amount of sense.

For Cleveland:
- If they take Wright into the Bogans TPE, and sends Smith out for "nothing", they generate a TPE for Smith's contract size. In other words, they effectively upgrade the 5.285817mil TPE to a 5.982375mil TPE. Just a tiny bit more flexibility.
- Wright isn't the answer for them, but now they've dumped J.R.'s second year and turned him into a useful expiring player; created an even larger TPE; still have Haywood, the Memphis pick, and the Varejao DPE in their back pocket; and shaved a million farther below the tax, just in case.

For Boston:
- Danny rents cap space next year to get his 1st for Wright.


Like I said. Terrifying.

Posted it in the other thread but here's this follow-up:
Green and Wright to Memphis, Kosta Koufos and Vince Carter to Cleveland, T. Prince, Calathes and both Cleveland picks to Boston.

bows and BSI i fully agree with you guys - i seriously think that boston and cleveland are currently perfect trade partners (including memphis or not): boston has wright who'd make a perfect fit on cleveland and cleveland has some 1sts to work with, which are exactly what we're looking for. I wonder if it'll be as simple as a straight up wright for protected 1st? Heck, they could move smith to us for bass for a year even, but that's terrible for the lockerroom.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Couple of nuggets dropped by Ken Berger in a recent article. Both of which we either knew or expected, but potential trade options for us nonetheless:

• LAC is shopping hard for a SF
• Charlotte is still looking for bigman help.

I'd only deal Green if we're getting Deandre- otherwise they can have Wallace.. It's not worth hurting that pick we have coming our way by making them better.. Still calling Jamal Crawford/1st for Wilson Chandler. I think a deal's coming since they just opened up a roster spot..

Bass is the obvious one to move to Charlotte, but if they want Tyler Zeller, Vonleh would be tempting.

[SMTBSI]

bows and BSI i fully agree with you guys - i seriously think that boston and cleveland are currently perfect trade partners (including memphis or not): boston has wright who'd make a perfect fit on cleveland and cleveland has some 1sts to work with, which are exactly what we're looking for. I wonder if it'll be as simple as a straight up wright for protected 1st? Heck, they could move smith to us for bass for a year even, but that's terrible for the lockerroom.

(Edit: Others waaaay ahead of me in other threads)

Scratch that.

From Game6 on the general board:

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Two decent 1sts for Mozgov.

[greenroom31]

Two decent 1sts for Mozgov.

It's a good haul, but let's face it -- if those picks were coming to us people would say they're mid to late 20's picks.

[Valid]

Two decent 1sts for Mozgov.

It's a good haul, but let's face it -- if those picks were coming to us people would say they're mid to late 20's picks.

I don't think so, in this case.

I think I'd say that Green is a better player than Mozgov, and if Ainge is able to dupe some team into giving up two firsts for him, 99 percent of this board would be overjoyed.

[greenroom31]

Two decent 1sts for Mozgov.

It's a good haul, but let's face it -- if those picks were coming to us people would say they're mid to late 20's picks.

I don't think so, in this case.

I think I'd say that Green is a better player than Mozgov, and if Ainge is able to dupe some team into giving up two firsts for him, 99 percent of this board would be overjoyed.

Sorry I must have been unclear -- the 2 picks are great, but I just don't think they're going to be "decent 1sts" when you you look at the protection on them.

[Valid]

It's a good haul, but let's face it -- if those picks were coming to us people would say they're mid to late 20's picks.

I don't think so, in this case.

I think I'd say that Green is a better player than Mozgov, and if Ainge is able to dupe some team into giving up two firsts for him, 99 percent of this board would be overjoyed.

Sorry I must have been unclear -- the 2 picks are great, but I just don't think they're going to be "decent 1sts" when you you look at the protection on them.

I actually think people would be happy with two firsts for Green even with protection.

Let's be honest: we probably aren't going to get anything great for him.

[greenroom31]

I don't think so, in this case.

I think I'd say that Green is a better player than Mozgov, and if Ainge is able to dupe some team into giving up two firsts for him, 99 percent of this board would be overjoyed.

Sorry I must have been unclear -- the 2 picks are great, but I just don't think they're going to be "decent 1sts" when you you look at the protection on them.

I actually think people would be happy with two firsts for Green even with protection.

Let's be honest: we probably aren't going to get anything great for him.

Agreed. My comment wasn't about Green or whether the Mozgov trade was good -- it was just about the quality of the 1st rounders irrespective of anything else. I think it was a great deal for Denver and would gladly take it for Green.

[RR9]

Another possibility is Green goes to the Pelicans for a future 1st and maybe Gordon?

[Andrew McCeltic]

What's with the Eric Gordon obsession? If anything, you deal Wallace for him, or Green/Wallace for Gordon/someone more valuable (Anderson, Evans)

[Valid]

Yeah. No interest in Gordon. He has a $15 million player option that he will assuredly pick up this summer. Plus, he can't stay on the floor and he hasn't been a good player, irrespective of his contract, since his days with the Clippers.

It's a shame what happened to him. He had "stud" written all over him his first couple of years.

[sully00]

Why does everyone want Jackson? He has terrible soothing %, and wasn't a very good passer with Westbrook out either. Yeah, he was averaging 18 with the two stars out, but he was playing 38 minutes a night and shooting 20 fg's. Have patients with Smart and look to trAde for someone like Terrance Jones or Harrison Barnes who are good shooters but aren't getting enough shots a game.

You are selling Jackson short here. He was putting up 20/5/8 in 13 games as a starter. He is 6'4". He is not a great shooter at this point but he can shoot, he can score, he can create offense for himself and others. That is what people miss when they look at the basketball reference page and don't watch a guy a ball. There is a huge a difference between taking an open 3 in the corner and creating that shot for yourself.

I think you would have to move Bradley if you are going to bring in Jackson but I kind of like the idea of Smart and Jackson in the same backcourt, more importantly I just like the idea of having someone in the fold who can put the ball in the hole. Doubt OKC would go for Bradley's salary though but maybe. Bottom line there is little chance that OKC is bringing Jackson back and at the same time they have got to make moves to get themselves in the playoffs if not back in contention. Maybe something built around Jackson and Green.

Are you thinking pre-deadline or in the off season Sully? The RFA situation makes things a little tricky I would think.

This would be right now.

I am not saying OKC would do this kind of trade I don't know enough about their situation off hand but you could do

Green and Bradley
for
Jackson, Perkins, and Lamb. I don't know how much they like Lamb but his minutes have evaporated since the big guns came back and if they believed in him they wouldn't have likely gone after Waiters.

[sully00]

Would you do Green and Wright for Lopez? Would BKL do the deal?

No interest in Lopez he is a turd burger. He can't rebound, can't stay healthy, and he has a player option after this season in which someone else wills surely give him another 60-70 mil bucks.

[Banks2Pierce]

I am not saying I would necessarily condone this, but this is probably the last good time for a while to trade Zeller or Sullinger. If the team sees something in either that would make us seriously hesitate to go long-term and on big money with them, it would make sense to cash in. Maybe a swap for youth or something along those lines. Needless to say, it'd have to be a return that gave you THE THICKENING.

I say that because they will be heading into RFA at the trade deadline next year. Their value as an asset takes a big hit after the trade deadline and trends down from then on.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I don't think Sullinger's worth the long-term investment. The only risk with him is that he finally gets in shape this summer- he's never had a completely healthy off-season, he's going into a contract year, it could be the time he finally does the Kevin Love slim-down. But other teams know that, too, so it helps his trade value. Zeller is a keeper, IMO.