Rudy Gobert: Future DPOY

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Re: What's Rudy Gobert's Ceiling? 

Post#101 » by Damon_3388 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 2:32 am

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TeaM DimE wrote:Turn on the Jazz/Bulls if you can. Gobert with a 5 point 6 reb 2 block first Q. In his 3rd start he Jazz hold the Bulls to a 16 point first Q. Gobert sits the first 2 minutes of the 2nd Q and Bulls go on a 6-0 run. It's truly unbelievable the impact he is having on the game. THIS KID IS SPECIAL!!!


Why doesn't he start over Kanter when all three bigs are healthy?


Because Favors/Kanter and Gobert/Kanter line-ups are more complimentary than a Gobert/Favors line-up would be.
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Post#102 » by ufsports » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:18 am

I hate to just talk about potential, but this guy could really be something!
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Post#103 » by jmnvcavs » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:21 am

Kid is going to be really damn good.
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Post#104 » by Kabookalu » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:24 am

Kid is making me wish I dropped Ryan Anderson for him.
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Re: What's Rudy Gobert's Ceiling? 

Post#105 » by Moonbeam » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:38 am

Utah has some exciting prospects! Gobert is really come into his own, Hayward has taken off, Favors keeps getting better, and Exum could be their PG of the future once he gets more accustomed to the NBA.
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Post#106 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:44 am

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Post#107 » by californiadude » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:47 am

I know this is being said by everyone and their mother but....
I really wanted the W's to buy a pick so they could draft this guy...They bought 26 and I was fist pumping because i thought they were going after him. Instead they drafted NEDOVIC!!!
Not only do I have to live with the frustration them taking Barnes over Drummond but now I now have to deal with rudy too.

Gobert is awesome but I really have to give the jazz credit for the roster they've esemblled. They're wothout a doubt my favorite lottery team to watch. If they can get just one superstar on next years draft...
They're going to be really good.


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Post#108 » by Amish Mafioso » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:56 am

Teams are going to be looking past Utah due to their record, only to run into the buzz saw that is Rudy. By this time next year, Rudy will be a household name.
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Post#109 » by Yoshun » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:01 am

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laploutocratie wrote:
TeaM DimE wrote:Turn on the Jazz/Bulls if you can. Gobert with a 5 point 6 reb 2 block first Q. In his 3rd start he Jazz hold the Bulls to a 16 point first Q. Gobert sits the first 2 minutes of the 2nd Q and Bulls go on a 6-0 run. It's truly unbelievable the impact he is having on the game. THIS KID IS SPECIAL!!!


Why doesn't he start over Kanter when all three bigs are healthy?


Because Favors/Kanter and Gobert/Kanter line-ups are more complimentary than a Gobert/Favors line-up would be.


Yea this is probably true. It's really just a matter of fit. Gobert is definitely better than Kanter, but Favors is the best of the 3.
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Post#110 » by pace31 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:05 am

I get that on paper the combinations of Kanter/Gobert and Kanter/Favors look better on paper because one brings the offense and one brings the defense, but just use the eye test. The Jazz are a better team with Favors/Gobert on the floor together.
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Post#111 » by DrCoach » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:07 am

I'm hoping at least 10ft high
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Post#112 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:10 am

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:tyson chandler


Much better shot blocker than Tyson.
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Post#113 » by StocktonShorts » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:57 am

pace31 wrote:I get that on paper the combinations of Kanter/Gobert and Kanter/Favors look better on paper because one brings the offense and one brings the defense, but just use the eye test. The Jazz are a better team with Favors/Gobert on the floor together.


Exactly. I think people who say Favors/Gobert are a worse fit than Favors/Kanter are guilty of:

1) Underestimating Favors' offensive skill set
2) Overestimating Favors' ability to defend at the center spot; I think he's a better defensive 4
3) Overestimating Kanter's offensive ability; Favors is arguably a better offensive player.
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Post#114 » by TKainZero » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:01 am

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Heat_Fan_87 wrote:tyson chandler


Much better shot blocker than Tyson.


Also a much better athlete than chandler. Chandler is no stiff, but gobert has special athleticism .

The fact he went 27th in a terrible draft is insane. Insane. Any team could have used him.
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TKainZero wrote:
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Heat_Fan_87 wrote:tyson chandler


Much better shot blocker than Tyson.


Also a much better athlete than chandler. Chandler is no stiff, but gobert has special athleticism .

The fact he went 27th in a terrible draft is insane. Insane. Any team could have used him.


To be fair, it seems like there's a big guy with Gobert's potential in every draft, and usually they don't pan out.
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Post#116 » by orlandomanic » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:32 am

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orlandomanic wrote:He will never be an all star, but i think at best he could be a 12/9 guy. Just like DeAndre, McGee, and Drummond, his free throw shooting is horrible and that will be what limits his playing time and 4th quarter appearances.


He's shooting .692 from the line this year. Not mindblowing, but hardly "horrible".

What I like about him for a young big, especially one that contests shots often, is that his foul rate is pretty low, and his block-to-foul ratio is pretty high. Shows that he can play hard and smart. Can be a bit fumbly and turn the ball over a little too much on offense though, considering his role.

I see him turning out like Tyson Chandler, or at least being molded into that type of player. Pretty good value for an foreign big coming late in the first round. Seems to be a lot further along and much more of a sure thing than someone of similar age and size like Lucas Nogueira, who was taken eleven spots higher in the same draft.


When has Gobert ever shot .692 from the line??? he is shooting .650 from the line. like i said, he is a good prospect and i can see him at 12/9 role player, but he won't be able to play in the fourth and finish games unless its a blow out. he needs to do better than JaVale McGee and Mark Eaton and improve on his free throw shooting
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Post#117 » by StocktonShorts » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:43 am

orlandomanic wrote:When has Gobert ever shot .692 from the line??? he is shooting .650 from the line. like i said, he is a good prospect and i can see him at 12/9 role player, but he won't be able to play in the fourth and finish games unless its a blow out. he needs to do better than JaVale McGee and Mark Eaton and improve on his free throw shooting


Before the Minnesota game and the Pacers game (he went 3-6 in both) he was shooting .692.

After tonight's game (1-2) he is shooting .658.

For reference:
Tim Duncan is a career .695 shooter.
Tyson Chandler is a career .643 shooter.

I think Gobert will be fine. His shot looks good. He has good form and a good release.

Finally, Mark Eaton was a career .649 shooter from the line and two-time defensive player of the year. He was three times first team All-NBA defensive team. He was (and is) a smart dude who had a great NBA career that was cut short by injuries. Javale McGee should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Eaton.
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Post#118 » by HawaiianJazzFan » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:52 am

orlandomanic wrote:
Damon_3388 wrote:
orlandomanic wrote:He will never be an all star, but i think at best he could be a 12/9 guy. Just like DeAndre, McGee, and Drummond, his free throw shooting is horrible and that will be what limits his playing time and 4th quarter appearances.


He's shooting .692 from the line this year. Not mindblowing, but hardly "horrible".

What I like about him for a young big, especially one that contests shots often, is that his foul rate is pretty low, and his block-to-foul ratio is pretty high. Shows that he can play hard and smart. Can be a bit fumbly and turn the ball over a little too much on offense though, considering his role.

I see him turning out like Tyson Chandler, or at least being molded into that type of player. Pretty good value for an foreign big coming late in the first round. Seems to be a lot further along and much more of a sure thing than someone of similar age and size like Lucas Nogueira, who was taken eleven spots higher in the same draft.


When has Gobert ever shot .692 from the line??? he is shooting .650 from the line. like i said, he is a good prospect and i can see him at 12/9 role player, but he won't be able to play in the fourth and finish games unless its a blow out. he needs to do better than JaVale McGee and Mark Eaton and improve on his free throw shooting


Gobert has great form on his FT shooting... he'll be fine, I don't know why you are so worried about it, no one in our organization is. You should relax man, that is like the one thing you keep pointing out over and over, it can't be good for your blood pressure to worry that much. You haven't mentioned any other aspect of his game. When Karl Malone was 22 he shot FT's at 48%, plus rudy is a hard worker. He needs to do better than Mark Eaton? Mark Eaton averaged 9.7 ppg 11.3 rpg 5.6 bpg playing all 82 games in a season once. If he's better than Eaton, he'll be scary good.
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Post#119 » by orlandomanic » Thu Jan 8, 2015 6:04 am

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Damon_3388 wrote:
He's shooting .692 from the line this year. Not mindblowing, but hardly "horrible".

What I like about him for a young big, especially one that contests shots often, is that his foul rate is pretty low, and his block-to-foul ratio is pretty high. Shows that he can play hard and smart. Can be a bit fumbly and turn the ball over a little too much on offense though, considering his role.

I see him turning out like Tyson Chandler, or at least being molded into that type of player. Pretty good value for an foreign big coming late in the first round. Seems to be a lot further along and much more of a sure thing than someone of similar age and size like Lucas Nogueira, who was taken eleven spots higher in the same draft.


When has Gobert ever shot .692 from the line??? he is shooting .650 from the line. like i said, he is a good prospect and i can see him at 12/9 role player, but he won't be able to play in the fourth and finish games unless its a blow out. he needs to do better than JaVale McGee and Mark Eaton and improve on his free throw shooting


Gobert has great form on his FT shooting... he'll be fine, I don't know why you are so worried about it, no one in our organization is. You should relax man, that is like the one thing you keep pointing out over and over, it can't be good for your blood pressure to worry that much. You haven't mentioned any other aspect of his game. When Karl Malone was 22 he shot FT's at 48%, plus rudy is a hard worker. He needs to do better than Mark Eaton? Mark Eaton averaged 9.7 ppg 11.3 rpg 5.6 bpg playing all 82 games in a season once. If he's better than Eaton, he'll be scary good.


I lived through both Shaquille O'Neal and Dwight Howard..... so ya, I know.

I also saw the same with Bo Outlaw, just a fantastic player, but coach had to sit him at the end of all the games.
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Post#120 » by Damon_3388 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 6:10 am

orlandomanic wrote:When has Gobert ever shot .692 from the line???


When I made that post four days ago, his season mark was .692. He's since shot 7/14 from the line, dropping his season mark to .662. Again, not great, but hardly "horrible", and a solid improvement from last year, where he shot .492.
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