Jeff Green Traded to the Memphis Grizzlies (official woj tweet page 1)

[165bows]

My guess is they are trying to get Deng, but Miami may not want to move him. Heat would have a tough time replacing him next year so if they want to maintain any competitiveness this year or next best option is keep him.

Other thing with Deng (maybe Smitty or SMT or someone can weigh in on this) is that Memphis would be limited in how much they could re-sign him for if he opts out since they wouldn't have his Bird Rights (since he just signed in MIA as a FA). With Green they would have rights.

So who knows.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Green's lethargic? I can't believe it..

Memphis doesn't have the pieces to get Green or Deng, but they're trying to bait both teams into a salary dump by creating competition for the opportunity- act fast and dump your mediocre wing before the other guy does!

[Ben-N1ce]

Green's lethargic? I can't believe it..

Memphis doesn't have the pieces to get Green or Deng, but they're trying to bait both teams into a salary dump by creating competition for the opportunity- act fast and dump your mediocre wing before the other guy does!

It's probably his lack of athleticism

[darrendaye]

Personally, I have ZERO problems taking a pick further down the road. I mean, posters are already crying about James Young not getting PT. This year there will likely be two draftees who should warrant rotation time given where they are drafted and at least 3 draftees who should stick on the roster. In 2016, they have an even larger basket of picks. Now, sure, it's probable that some of these picks are moved in deals, but there is a tipping point where too many picks puts more pressure and incentive on YOU to get rid of them and thus lose a bit of your leverage in negotiations.

Even more than assets, now, the team needs breathing space on the roster. They have two players who are great 11th and 12th men at the moment, Wallace and Pressey. But given the situation, they are the 14th and 15th men because of other factors. I'm rooting for consolidation trades or picking up an injured guy in an advantageous deal (say Gallinari or McGee), where you have at least 2-3 more guys who can't or shouldn't expect to play. Ainge should be able to play the 10 day contract d-league dance at some point this season.

I'm perfectly fine with a 2019 or 2020 pick coming back for Jeff Green. Hopefully by then, Ainge will be in an enviable position to add a strong rookie to a title contending nucleus.

[ballup]

I think we all can agree that whoever is exchanged for Green, he needs to be bench stashed, waived if he is an expiring, or Keith Bogans' d

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Green's got more job security than you do. Worst case is that he takes his 9 million dollar option next year. He's still a vet minimum guy at worst, or he can go to China and be adored like Stephon Marbury. Sales is like being in the NFL with a non-guaranteed contract- the NBA, you're more like a teacher with tenure.

Exactly. That's why I'm not buying the sympathy, poor Jeff, he's human, the NBA is a business bull.

If playing for the opportunity to secure a longer, as lucrative or more lucrative deal isn't motivating enough for him, then why do we want him?

He's doing the opposite of what you'd expect a regular Joe like us, and in this day and age, athletes, to do when there's an opportunity to secure a huge pay day w/ additional GUARANTEED years.

It actually makes me think he's complacent and indifferent on whether he gets a 12mil per year deal or an 7mill per year deal. Because regardless it's going to be millions. And that's not an attitude I want on my team.

Just my thoughts on it.

I think your missing the point all together. Basically what Boston is asking Green to do is to work his ass off so they can fire him. It is like your boss coming to you saying I want to have your best quarter ever so I can sell this **** company and you can get laid off.

This isn't a situation where Ainge is committing to Jeff for the rest of the season, he basically committed to him through the holidays. He isn't trying to trade Jeff to the best situation for Jeff he is trying to trade him for the best return for the Celtics.

This is Ainge's mess and he has probably sealed Brad Stevens fate as a coach.

Yeah but Green is not really getting fired. To me it's more like “Yeah we are going move you to a different department, you may not like where you’re going but its only for 3 or 4 months and you will be getting your full salary. If you like it there you can stay for another year and keep getting paid. If you don’t you can leave and there are several departments that will be interested in you.”

[No-Man]

Prince plus Adams for Green, that's the trade.

Trade Bass somewhere for a TPE and a 2nd round pick.

Smart-Nelson-Pressey
Bradley-Thornton-Adams
Crowder-Turner-Young
Sullinger-Prince-Wallace
Zeller-Olynyk-Wright

Trade Wright at some point for another pick if possible.

[ddb]

Gotta move on from Green. I would do Green for Prince and future draft consideration in a heartbeat. Prince can sit at the end of the bench and expire. Might as well waive Prince and let him sign elsewhere once he goes unclaimed. Gotta pay his pro-rated expiring salary no matter what. I don't want Brad Stevens tempted to play him!

Green started out great but has returned to form as the frustrating inconsistent player that he is. My gut tells me that if he isn't traded he most likely opts out of his contract and becomes and UFA (which would be great), but his most recent comments about not wanting to be traded (I don't believe him), raises some concern that he COULD opt in.. At that point we'd be on the hook for another 9.7 million. Green isn't in the long-term plans...that experiment never panned out. Chalk up that trade as a draw. Didn't really work out for either team.

[bucknersrevenge]

Prince plus Adams for Green, that's the trade.

Trade Bass somewhere for a TPE and a 2nd round pick.

Smart-Nelson-Pressey
Bradley-Thornton-Adams
Crowder-Turner-Young
Sullinger-Prince-Wallace
Zeller-Olynyk-Wright

Trade Wright at some point for another pick if possible.

I'd hang on to Wright myself...unless we can find a sweet deal for him. I like his athleticism and I think he at least gives energy out there and a little better rim protection than Bass. Either way I can't wait to get a number of these guys outta here. Kinda souring a little on Sully too but I think of him as more of a draft night trade asset.

[No-Man]

I still like more the Lamb+Perkins for Green for the Celtics, but dunno if OKC is up for it, with Waiters they should, but they are not a big trading franchise.

[klemen4]

Im also perfectly ok with 2019 first rounder with lottery protection, 1-12 in 2020, 1-10 in 2021, unprotected in 2022

Man 2022

Looking MEM salaries, imo they would want one of Vince Carter or Pondexter to be included to get out of their salaries.

Carter has 2 years remaining 4 mill per
Pondexter has 3 years at 3,3 to 3,8 per year

Well if they are willing to take Nelson and his 15/16, 3 mill player option.

Green for Prince, 2019 first rounder
Nelson for Pondexter

[Banks2Pierce]

Yea, I want no part of Pondexter's contract. I know that 3mil will seem like nothing in the new world NBA, but that's just too much baggage to take for a 1st rounder. Especially as I think we can weasel out of the Nelson 15-16' $ somehow.

[Fencer reregistered]

Do you know that as a fact or are you speculating? I don't mean to question your knowledge... just wondering...

It's pretty well-known. The rule is that they can't trade picks that fall two years in a row, subject to whatever exceptions there are that I couldn't reliably state. So if they trade two different future contingent picks, with the contingencies being such that the picks can't possibly fall in consecutive years, they've obeyed the rule.

[avi623]

Prince plus Adams for Green, that's the trade.

Trade Bass somewhere for a TPE and a 2nd round pick.

Smart-Nelson-Pressey
Bradley-Thornton-Adams
Crowder-Turner-Young
Sullinger-Prince-Wallace
Zeller-Olynyk-Wright

Trade Wright at some point for another pick if possible.

I would like if we could add Jarnell Stokes along with Prince and Adams, but yes, that trade with Memphis works very well. But I think we would just buyout Prince in that scenario -- no real need for him here and he'd probably want to play with a contender anyway.

[Red2]

Its addition by subtraction . Whatever Danny can get is gravy . He has to go

[Red2]

man I would be all over the jordan trade but I think Memphis will be very reluctant to give him up. But he's exactly what we need- a shooting guard with size and potential. I'd even sweeten the deal to get him. As for prince I guess you either move him or waive him or whatever. heck even keep him until the end of the year to show the young guys how to play. I'd throw in a second rounder to do this deal. C'mon danny- make it happen!

[Red2]

as for wright I don't get why we're not using him? also don't we have to wait a while before we can trade him? Cleveland is no longer a destination so who else needs a shot blocking center/forward who plays 18-20 minutes a night? hopefully nelson is on the next plane as well.

[SMTBSI]

Do you know that as a fact or are you speculating? I don't mean to question your knowledge... just wondering...

It's pretty well-known. The rule is that they can't trade picks that fall two years in a row, subject to whatever exceptions there are that I couldn't reliably state. So if they trade two different future contingent picks, with the contingencies being such that the picks can't possibly fall in consecutive years, they've obeyed the rule.

Coon's FAQ speaks generally on this point.

If a team trades two future first round picks and the first pick is protected, then the first pick would be conveyed in the first draft in which it is not a protected pick (as described above), and the second pick would be conveyed in the first allowable draft (per the Stepien rule) in which that pick is not protected (i.e., two years after the first pick). But since both picks must be conveyed within seven years, the protection on the first pick cannot last longer than four years (i.e., the first pick must be conveyed by the fifth year). A team can have no more than one trade with such a waiting period in effect at any time.

Though Fencer is right that it happens all the time. There's, by my count, one instance of it happening currently: The Lakers owe a "2017" 1st round pick to Orlando, "if at least two years" after the pick they owe Phoenix. (See RealGM's own traded pick tracker).

[Elrod is Back]

Place to shop Brandan Wright: Portland.

Trade Wright and our highest no. 2 pick in 2016 for Thomas Robinson's expiring and Portland's 2018 no. 1, top-12 protected until 2021 when it is unprotected..

[BakersDozen]

I always thought Robinson would be a star... wouldn't mind seeing what he could do here.