Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 50%

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Re: Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 0.500 

Post#41 » by jwise44 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 8:17 pm

Kevin Johnson wrote:Where are all the clowns claiming he is better than Chandler Parsons? He had an outlier 3PT shooting year last year and clowns were claiming he was a better 3Pt shooter than Parsons.

Just wana go on record as a rockets fan I did and still do hate losing parsons for Ariza. He was my favorite player.

I only thought Ariza would bring better d, which he has, but I would much rather parsons..he just cost too much for us
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Post#42 » by LoyalKing » Thu Jan 8, 2015 8:51 pm

niQ wrote:If it's any consolation, he started off the season on FIRE. Check his first 5 games.


Then he finally realized that he would get his 32m anyways, so he quit and said "See you in 17/18" :lol:
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Post#43 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Thu Jan 8, 2015 9:15 pm

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Kevin Johnson wrote:Where are all the clowns claiming he is better than Chandler Parsons? He had an outlier 3PT shooting year last year and clowns were claiming he was a better 3Pt shooter than Parsons.


I disagree. I think Ariza would be shooting much better had he stayed on the Wizards. What seems to be the issue is that Houston's offense is set up to take a ton of three whether good or bad attempts and he doesn't have anything close to the distributor he had in Wall. Ariza for the most part played within the offense last year, he took open shots and was a reliable defender. It seems that once again in Houston, they've set him up to be a player he's not. I also think their asking him to play too many minutes. 37 mpg seems like a lot of minutes for him.


James Harden is great at creating shots for others. He might not be as good as Wall but it's a stretch to say that he isn't close to Wall. One of the biggest problems is that the Rockets don't emphasize 3 point shot selection. Ariza is jacking up a lot more this year than he was in Washington. Ariza averaged almost 9 3s a game last month. Even Wall couldn't get him that many quality looks from the long distance.

And Beal should also get some love. If you are choosing between leaving Beal or Ariza you are picking Ariza 9 times out of 10.


Harden is a good passer, but he's not in Wall league.
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Re: Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 50% 

Post#44 » by a_sensei » Thu Jan 8, 2015 9:23 pm

Gang of Four wrote:I remember years ago Ariza tried to punch DeRozan in the back of the head, and luckily for both him and DeRozan he has bad aim and the shot he threw at DeRozan missed.


Rudy Fernandez was not so lucky. Hurt his back and derailed his career.
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In reality I think this is flagrant but not with intent and both our posts are off topic.
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Post#45 » by Th3RaptorSwag » Thu Jan 8, 2015 9:25 pm

Trey Burke tho. lol
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Re: Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 50% 

Post#46 » by fancynapkin » Thu Jan 8, 2015 9:38 pm

Edrees wrote: Once he's on fire, he doesn't miss.


Yes, once he doesn't miss, he doesn't miss.
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Post#47 » by NashtyNas » Thu Jan 8, 2015 9:48 pm

He's better than what he's done in this stretch but not as good as he was at the start our last year. Valuable addition for Houston but he always had looked much better in contact years. I wouldn't judge this guy until you see what he does in the playoffs. He's usually a solid contributor when it counts.
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Re: Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 50% 

Post#48 » by dreamcloud » Thu Jan 8, 2015 10:00 pm

Apparently he's shot below 42% in all the past 27 games, yikes..
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Post#49 » by Alfred » Thu Jan 8, 2015 10:01 pm

Have there ever been a player with as many peaks and valleys in their career as Trevor Ariza?
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Post#50 » by TroutMVP » Thu Jan 8, 2015 10:10 pm

This "streak" would actually mean something if there were a set minimum number of FGA per game, like say, 9.

I'm sure in at least a few of these 27 games, he had a 1-3 night or something, which counts as 33%. And for that reason, who really cares about this stat.
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Post#51 » by nybluemeadow » Thu Jan 8, 2015 10:36 pm

Ariza is having one of his worst years in his career, so is Josh Smith and Dwight Howard.... boy, Houstons really loves to get guys in their decline.
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Re: Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 50% 

Post#52 » by sixerswillrule » Fri Jan 9, 2015 12:13 am

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nate33 wrote:I'm unmoved by this revelation.

FG% as a stat become useless the day the 3-point line was introduced. Ariza shoots a poor FG% because his role in the offense is to shoot 3's almost exclusively. He's been a pretty bad 3-point shooter, but his overall efficiency has NOT been historically bad. In that stretch of 27 games cited in the OP, Ariza actually broke a .500 eFG% 5 times, including his most recent game.

His eFG% over that stretch of 27 games is .410. That would rank as the 5th worst this year among players with 500 or more minutes, better than MCW, Payton, Stephenson and DeRozan. Heck, the great Kobe Bryant has an eFG% of .411 this year. (And note, I'm just using the 27-game stretch to make Ariza look worse. If you use the entire season, Ariza's eFG% is .451, better than 35 other regular rotation players including guys like Russell Westbrook, Derrick Rose, Deon Waiters, Vince Carter, Alec Burks and CJ Miles.)

:nod: Pretty much this. Ariza know's his role and he's been playing it pretty well. He's just been in a shooting slump. He has to take every open 3 that the defense give's him to keep them honest. That way Dwight and Harden can operate. In fact looking at his FGA he takes 12 per game at a clip of 35.5% (about 4.5 FGM). That is really bad but not nearly as bad when you divide it up amongst 3's and 2's. Trevor attempts about 7.5 3FG per game and hits them at a lowly 31.2% (about 2.5 makes per game). That mean he only attempts about 4.5 2FGs per game and makes about 2 of them per game. That's not bad at all. His 3 point shooting has certainly been in a slump which why it seems like he's struggling really hard. He's had games of of 2/8, 1/9. 1/8, 1/7, 1/4, 0/4 from 3 in the last 27 games. But the Rockets and Ariza should be fine as long as he can hover around 33% from 3 if not stay above it.


43% 2P% is actually kinda bad. The average 2P% for a perimeter player is about 48%. I agree though, FG% is a stupid stat that people unfortunately keep using.
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Re: Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 50% 

Post#53 » by dlts20 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 12:37 am

TroutMVP wrote:This "streak" would actually mean something if there were a set minimum number of FGA per game, like say, 9.

I'm sure in at least a few of these 27 games, he had a 1-3 night or something, which counts as 33%. And for that reason, who really cares about this stat.

um, have you seen him? He's had 2 recent nights when he was 1-5 but thats only because he played like 22min after them adding help in Brewer and Smith. Other then that he's only had single digits twice and those were 9att. In the other 23 games he probably averages like 15attempts. To be fair like others have pointed out, he's shooting a ton of 3's but still
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Re: Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 50% 

Post#54 » by MaxRider » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:33 am

i guess ariza saw this today :lol:
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Post#55 » by BBgun » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:36 am

MaxRider wrote:i guess ariza saw this today :lol:


nah, he was just playing the Knicks. They're truly a great slumpbuster team.
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Re: Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 50% 

Post#56 » by dlts20 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:40 am

MaxRider wrote:i guess ariza saw this today :lol:

he started off hot last game too so maybe he is breaking out of it now, especially with playing less minutes
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Re: Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 50% 

Post#57 » by Fobbie » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:48 am

Still rather have Ariza and his contract than Parson and his near max contract.
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Re: Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 50% 

Post#58 » by thizznation » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:52 am

a_sensei wrote:
Gang of Four wrote:I remember years ago Ariza tried to punch DeRozan in the back of the head, and luckily for both him and DeRozan he has bad aim and the shot he threw at DeRozan missed.


Rudy Fernandez was not so lucky. Hurt his back and derailed his career.
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In reality I think this is flagrant but not with intent and both our posts are off topic.


looked more like a flop gone wrong
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Post#59 » by Cyrusman122000 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 4:37 am

two times in his career during contract years ariza has gotten red hot in a playoff run and gotten paid. I remember in 2009 when the Lakers won Ariza was on fire from beyond the arc. I think he literally shot 49% from 3. I firmly believe Lakers don't win that year without him. Then last years same thing happened in Washington with him in their playoff run. Once he signs the contracts he seems to have a down year in that first season. Although Ariza is one of those players that typically gets way better come playoff times. Kinda like Rondo
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Re: Ariza On The Verge Of Breaking Record For Most Games In A Row Shooting Under 50% 

Post#60 » by brutalitops » Fri Jan 9, 2015 4:47 am

Pretty harsh on the guy. He's been pretty good on the defensive end and started the season pretty hot.
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