Valid wrote:sully00 wrote:Valid wrote:So you're telling me that he is going to be worth more this offseason than he is going to be worth now? Gotchya.
You also have no idea what teams have offered for Green. It's Jan. 9. The trade deadline is Feb. 17. It is entirely possible that Ainge has received some tempting offers but is still searching around the league to see if he can get a better deal.
Either you make a trade, or Green walks. It's that simple. He isn't opting in. It's blatantly obvious that he is miserable here and wants out just as much as Ainge wants him gone.
And you can read my post below to see how simple you sound. If Ainge wanted him gone, if that was the motivation then he would be a Laker. Trade offered trade refused. From the reports that are out there Ainge had been refusing to even talk about Jeff in trades until Rondo was dealt.
I expect that he will get dealt before the deadline but I think that there are enough reasons to not do it if you don't get the return. If you can get a TPE and a 2nd rounder in the off season, or if Tellum says he wants to opt in to his deal and be traded to destination X and sign an extension there. Why deal him for an expiring stiff and 2nd rounder or take on salary at the deadline?
Okay first of all, you need to stop belittling anyone who doesn't share your opinion. You are a mod. You are supposed to be above this. You get snippy with just about every single person on this board who dares to disagree with you, and it's getting tiresome.
There is nothing disrespectful in what I said to you or that violates the terms of service and I don't throw around the fact that I am a moderator at you so don't throw it my face. You don't get to tell me what I get to say and how I say it and trust me I have to deal with things that are more tiresome than my being "snippy." You are allowed to disagree, it is a message board. You are posting in absolutes I am showing quite clearly that there is more to it than you are looking at. You do not have to respond to my posts if I am so tiresome just ignore me.
Second of all, just because Green isn't gone yet doesn't mean Ainge doesn't want him gone. THAT is what you call "simple" thinking. The trade deadline is over a month away. Ainge's hands are not tied yet. He doesn't have to make a deal now if he doesn't want to.
Also, why is it a shock that he didn't even entertain offers for Green until Rondo was traded? The Rondo deal signaled that the potential for a quick rebuild was over. Obviously, keeping Green around was not a bad idea if we were able to turn things around quickly, but we weren't. Now that Rondo is gone, Green becomes all too expendable.
I think you are overthinking this. The chances of him opting in, picking where he wants to go and then signing an extension at said destination are very slim, and even if he does, I don't know what makes you think we are going to get more for him then than we will now. I could actually argue that he would actually be worth a bit more now due to the fact that teams tend to get desperate this time of year (see: Cleveland).
Nobody is saying that Ainge doesn't want to trade him, again your posting in absolutes instead of looking at the nuances of the situation. Ainge was not taking offers on Green until Rondo was dealt. That was probably because if Ainge couldn't deal Rondo for a satisfactory return then he would have held on to both players into the off season and played out the hand.
I am telling you that the price tag of an expiring contracts and a first round pick is extremely difficult for contending teams to come up with at this point in the season. Part of the issue is that teams don't even have the salary on their books because contending teams are built with extremely high priced stars and low priced role players. The other issue is that the rules for dealing draft picks and the fact that a couple of teams are stockpiling them makes it difficult to free one up for a deal.
I am not sure if you feel that expiring money and 1st rounder is the starting price or sold price on Green. I think he is sold at that price. If the return is going to be a 2nd rounder or that you have to take on salary to get the first then yes I think Ainge can live with nothing or maybe get more in the off season, I think he got more for Hump.
