Jeff Green Traded to the Memphis Grizzlies (official woj tweet page 1)

[GreenMachine]

Yeah, how dare anyone question the omnipotent Ainge and his tanking minions. They have incontrovertible facts about how the only way to win is to ... lose.

Um... I am an outspoken OPPONENT of "tanking". Afam is the Tank Commander.

Check your facts.

Ah, then we are on the same side of the argument. I thought you were advocating tanking.

Yes. But I do support 'asset accumulation' as well as being realistic. We are AT LEAST 3 years away from being a 'good' team. Three years from now Green will be old. And he would have walked this offseason. Get what you can for him. And I am excited to see Crowder and eventually Young get those minutes Green would have taken.

So we are both anti-tanking... but you seem to have a problem with 'asset accumulation' which I don't understand.

[GreenMachine]

yer hilarious. post more.

What's more hilarious is that Danny's ass has more ability to scout talent than this kid does. He's off his rocker & then some

Kid?????? Hey pal, you were still swingin' in your old man's basket when I was attending games and watching hoops. This ain't my first rodeo bruh....

Well then you are just young-at-heart And I really don't mean to be rude... though this will sound rude... Young-at-mind sometimes. Though I suppose young-at-mind could be considered a compliment. Sometimes.

[GreenMachine]

I know I should know this by now... but can TPEs be combined with players and/or other TPEs? Like can the Rondo 13mil TPE be combined with the Wright 5mil TPE to get one 18Mil player?

[Celts17Pride]

I know I should know this by now... but can TPEs be combined with players and/or other TPEs? Like can the Rondo 13mil TPE be combined with the Wright 5mil TPE to get one 18Mil player?

No

[Valid]

Um... I am an outspoken OPPONENT of "tanking". Afam is the Tank Commander.

Check your facts.

Ah, then we are on the same side of the argument. I thought you were advocating tanking.

Yes. But I do support 'asset accumulation' as well as being realistic. We are AT LEAST 3 years away from being a 'good' team. Three years from now Green will be old. And he would have walked this offseason. Get what you can for him. And I am excited to see Crowder and eventually Young get those minutes Green would have taken.

So we are both anti-tanking... but you seem to have a problem with 'asset accumulation' which I don't understand.

Yeah. This is what I don't get, either.

[Captain_Caveman]

Um... I am an outspoken OPPONENT of "tanking". Afam is the Tank Commander.

Check your facts.

Ah, then we are on the same side of the argument. I thought you were advocating tanking.

Yes. But I do support 'asset accumulation' as well as being realistic. We are AT LEAST 3 years away from being a 'good' team. Three years from now Green will be old. And he would have walked this offseason. Get what you can for him. And I am excited to see Crowder and eventually Young get those minutes Green would have taken.

So we are both anti-tanking... but you seem to have a problem with 'asset accumulation' which I don't understand.

I don't agree. Barring landing a top pick like Okafor, Ainge will clearly try to flip younger assets for established vets at every turn, IMO.

I don't think this management has any intention of just farting around for the next 3-5 years. This is all about making a big splash as soon as possible.

[chakdaddy]

So we are both anti-tanking... but you seem to have a problem with 'asset accumulation' which I don't understand.

I'm not convinced that we've acquired a single legitimate asset since the Pierce/KG trade. And even those are nothing special unless the Nets decline further.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Wright on CSN right now sounds like he's repeating what Ainge/Stevens told him verbatim..

I think we're taking on some money before the deadline, by the way.. Something like Wallace/Thornton/Bass to NOP for Gordon, Ryan Anderson, Rivers could actually make New Orleans better (too many generals there, not enough soldiers) and it cleans off their cap nicely.. We hope Gordon can get healthy, and Anderson's the get- a decent piece now, a nice trade asset..

Or something smaller, like Bass for Landry/Stauskas.. I don't think Ainge wants 40 million in cap room, and we have the picks to dump a bad deal or two in the summer if a great opportunity opens up, like Love/Jordan.. Worth taking on some bad money to get an asset or two..

[GreenMachine]

Ah, then we are on the same side of the argument. I thought you were advocating tanking.

Yes. But I do support 'asset accumulation' as well as being realistic. We are AT LEAST 3 years away from being a 'good' team. Three years from now Green will be old. And he would have walked this offseason. Get what you can for him. And I am excited to see Crowder and eventually Young get those minutes Green would have taken.

So we are both anti-tanking... but you seem to have a problem with 'asset accumulation' which I don't understand.

I don't agree. Barring landing a top pick like Okafor, Ainge will clearly try to flip younger assets for established vets at every turn, IMO.

I don't think this management has any intention of just farting around for the next 3-5 years. This is all about making a big splash as soon as possible.

Oh... I agree that it COULD be sooner... but Green was a gonner this summer anyway. And even if they make a 'splash' this summer... that will just make us a playoff team. They need at least two 'splashes' to make us contenders... that could take another year or two...

The original plan/hope was to keep Rondo and Green et al and add a bonafide star or two. In that case, Green and Bass etc would have been a really solid supporting cast. When that ship sailed, there was really no choice but to move Rondo and Green and probably Bass, Thorton, etc...

[BannersOnly]

So we are both anti-tanking... but you seem to have a problem with 'asset accumulation' which I don't understand.

I'm not convinced that we've acquired a single legitimate asset since the Pierce/KG trade. And even those are nothing special unless the Nets decline further.

Bingo. Effin right. Certailing nothing substantial. This entire rebuild will be made or broke on those Nets picks period. If we land at least one Top 5 pick we are in business. If not, we'll be trading mid to late 1st and pu-pu platters of sh*t for medicore vets on the decline or mediocre vets in their prime who ain't good enuff to take you anywhere. We ain't trading a pu-pu platter of non Top 5 picks for a Top 15 NBA STUD and you can take that to the effin bank.

[ConnorHenry]

So we are both anti-tanking... but you seem to have a problem with 'asset accumulation' which I don't understand.

I'm not convinced that we've acquired a single legitimate asset since the Pierce/KG trade. And even those are nothing special unless the Nets decline further.

BINGO!

[GreenMachine]

So we are both anti-tanking... but you seem to have a problem with 'asset accumulation' which I don't understand.

I'm not convinced that we've acquired a single legitimate asset since the Pierce/KG trade. And even those are nothing special unless the Nets decline further.

Young isn't a 'legitimate asset' -? And Smart (instead of whoever we would have got at number 20 or so if we hadn't moved PP/KG) isn't an asset?

Do we really need to go over the list of 'assets' Danny has got in the draft with picks 15 and later again? It's looooong...

[GreenMachine]

We got KEVIN Freakin GARNET mainly for players Danny drafted 15th or later. Just a friendly reminder...

[sully00]

So we are both anti-tanking... but you seem to have a problem with 'asset accumulation' which I don't understand.

I'm not convinced that we've acquired a single legitimate asset since the Pierce/KG trade. And even those are nothing special unless the Nets decline further.

While that is fair the reality is I don't think Ainge traded one away either.

[GreenMachine]

So we are both anti-tanking... but you seem to have a problem with 'asset accumulation' which I don't understand.

I'm not convinced that we've acquired a single legitimate asset since the Pierce/KG trade. And even those are nothing special unless the Nets decline further.

BINGO!

For someone who claims to be anti-tanking... you sure do agree with the tanktards a whole lot.

[ConnorHenry]

I'm not convinced that we've acquired a single legitimate asset since the Pierce/KG trade. And even those are nothing special unless the Nets decline further.

BINGO!

For someone who claims to be anti-tanking... you sure do agree with the tanktards a whole lot.

How? I feel that tanking is wrong and not only the philosophy behind it but DA's implementation of it. Sheer number of assets means nothing. All the stuff he's accumulating to take us to promised land is not even that spectacular.

[GreenMachine]

BINGO!

For someone who claims to be anti-tanking... you sure do agree with the tanktards a whole lot.

How? I feel that tanking is wrong and not only the philosophy behind it but DA's implementation of it. Sheer number of assets means nothing. All the stuff he's accumulating to take us to promised land is not even that spectacular.

Because the posters you keep agreeing with are the leaders of the tank brigade.

[Valid]

BINGO!

For someone who claims to be anti-tanking... you sure do agree with the tanktards a whole lot.

How? I feel that tanking is wrong and not only the philosophy behind it but DA's implementation of it. Sheer number of assets means nothing. All the stuff he's accumulating to take us to promised land is not even that spectacular.

Wow. You really don't get it.

[GreenMachine]

For someone who claims to be anti-tanking... you sure do agree with the tanktards a whole lot.

How? I feel that tanking is wrong and not only the philosophy behind it but DA's implementation of it. Sheer number of assets means nothing. All the stuff he's accumulating to take us to promised land is not even that spectacular.

Wow. You really don't get it.

For real. "Sheer number of assets" means EVERYTHING.

[BannersOnly]

We got KEVIN Freakin GARNET mainly for players Danny drafted 15th or later. Just a friendly reminder...

No FREAKIN Way! Using your logic, we also drafted Kevin McHale with the 3rd pick and won 3 titles with him as our 2nd best player. Yet you claim Top 5 picks don't matter......and, oh, btw, KG was a former Top 5 pick who we needed to trade for just to win our 1st title in 22 years.