Jeff Green Traded to the Memphis Grizzlies (official woj tweet page 1)

[GreenMachine]

I guess people prefer being an 8 seed and getting destroyed in the first round.

I prefer having a GM that doesn't trade our best players for a pile of crap.

We are two years into rebuilding and there has been absolutely zero progress. In fact, we're getting much, much worse.

One. More. Time. WHAT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE? Rondo and Green were both going to walk this offseason... PLEASE tell us what you would have done differently???

I keep asking this of the people who are against what Danny is doing... and keep getting ignored. I wonder why?

[aim2please]

Perk was never the same after that knee injury and was particularly horrifying in the 2011 playoffs, when he cost the Thunder the series by getting destroyed by Chandler.

Four other things for the historical revisionists...

Anyone remember Rondo getting a dislocated elbow in those same playoffs? Hard to argue that no Perkins cost us a ring.

Another thing was, OKC was able to extend him pre-lockout, where the CBA prevented us from going above 4y/22m. Had we kept him, he would have hit unrestricted free agency in a market that paid DeAndre like 11m a year and Chandler like 15m+.

As to Green, without the heart condition, quite possible we could have won a ring that year.

Last, the Clippers pick we got was pre-Chris Paul, and could have easily been a very good pick with better luck.

If Ainge kept Perk and gave him that extension, these same people would complain about Danny not trading him while he could still get some value for him.

Btw, looking back, getting Krstic, Green and unprotected Clips pick for Perk and Nate was a hell of a trade

[FreeDrop]

Danny is spinning his wheels. Ill believe the "grand plan" when I see it. I fear Stevens will be next to go. What free agents are going to come to this depleted team?
True about rondo getting hurt that year, but Danny didn't know that when he made the deal.

[klemen4]

The best draft pick from all this trades will be a lot higher draft pick this year!!!

[Andrew McCeltic]

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Prince is playing tonight, which is weird.

Anyone remember the Pitino deals that fell through? One was for Clarence Weatherspoon, then I think we had a trade lined up for Danny Fortson (or giving him away?) that broke down.

This seems like some gamesmanship- Boston takes Green out to pressure Memphis into making a deal, Memphis keeps Prince in to resist. Gotta feel bad for Green..

[KamikazeK]

I guess people prefer being an 8 seed and getting destroyed in the first round.

I prefer having a GM that doesn't trade our best players for a pile of crap.

We are two years into rebuilding and there has been absolutely zero progress. In fact, we're getting much, much worse.

One. More. Time. WHAT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE? Rondo and Green were both going to walk this offseason... PLEASE tell us what you would have done differently???

I keep asking this of the people who are against what Danny is doing... and keep getting ignored. I wonder why?

I wouldn't have traded Rondo. I would have taken my chances with him possibly leaving in free agency. It's not like we got anything of value for him anyways.

[theman]

I'm not convinced that we've acquired a single legitimate asset since the Pierce/KG trade. And even those are nothing special unless the Nets decline further.

BINGO!

I think we were all in on Love. Now no vet will agree to come here in trade. The only chances left are strike gold in the lottery, or use the entire cap space to accommodate and LeBron style megateam (which could be nicely supplemented by the lower picks.)

Ainge has drafted to All Stars level players. Neither was selected in the lottery.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I was disappointed with the return for Rondo, I'm disappointed with the return for Wright, and we'll see what happens with Green. But so far we're doing a textbook rebuild, and it's a book Ainge helped write. It could be done better, but some of that is luck. He's not doing anything desperate, he's not going after a short-term fix- so far he's doing this the right way.

The big test for me is whether he takes on any money.. But this is our year to bottom out, and as we've seen in this league over and over, fortunes can change quickly. We could wind up with Okafor, or trade Towns/Wallace/Sullinger for Cousins, or Wallace/Okafor for Embiid.. We could also have another mediocre year next season, like Orlando.. But even Orlando is a little good luck away from being a playoff team..

[Andrew McCeltic]

I prefer having a GM that doesn't trade our best players for a pile of crap.

We are two years into rebuilding and there has been absolutely zero progress. In fact, we're getting much, much worse.

One. More. Time. WHAT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE? Rondo and Green were both going to walk this offseason... PLEASE tell us what you would have done differently???

I keep asking this of the people who are against what Danny is doing... and keep getting ignored. I wonder why?

I wouldn't have traded Rondo. I would have taken my chances with him possibly leaving in free agency. It's not like we got anything of value for him anyways.

I'd rather have Crowder/1st/TPE.. Better than nothing, and he no longer fit our rebuild anyway. You have to trade Green, too.

[theman]

This trade makes Memphis better. Hopefully makes Dallas and Clippers worse.

[31to6]

Reality: "Danny took the team apart, waited a year to do it fully because Rondo got injured and he figured he'd try to build around him (didn't happen), and now he has a record buttload of future picks to use or deal and cap room to use or not."

TruFan: "I WANT A TITLE THIS SEASON!!"

Reality: "Sorry but-"

SpecialTruFan: "I WOULD'VE DONE IT SO MUCH BETTER!!!!!"

[31to6]

WRONG. Perk SUCKED that next year... and hasn't been much of anything since. We traded damaged goods. He wasn't helping us win squat after the injury. He's a joke now.

Hold on, Perk came back pretty good from that injury - only 12 games worth with us, but he was looking nice (especially the game before we traded him, go figure..). In OKC, he did his thing just fine that year - the next year it seemed to 'catch up' with him somehow (plus KD and RW weren't doing for him what KG and RR did).

But with Perk back and looking himself we were 'rich' at center for, like, a solid few games in early '11. It was a dicey move and honestly I can't say it worked out that well for either team, or player - but not everything does.

[GreenMachine]

I prefer having a GM that doesn't trade our best players for a pile of crap.

We are two years into rebuilding and there has been absolutely zero progress. In fact, we're getting much, much worse.

One. More. Time. WHAT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE? Rondo and Green were both going to walk this offseason... PLEASE tell us what you would have done differently???

I keep asking this of the people who are against what Danny is doing... and keep getting ignored. I wonder why?

I wouldn't have traded Rondo. I would have taken my chances with him possibly leaving in free agency. It's not like we got anything of value for him anyways.

OK... so you wouldn't have traded Rondo... AND THEN WHAT?

A. If Rondo signed... THEN WHAT?
B. If Rondo walked... THEN WHAT?

It's easy to say Danny is doing a bad job... it's a lot harder to lay out an alternative. But please... enlighten us...

[Captain_Caveman]

Perk was never the same after that knee injury and was particularly horrifying in the 2011 playoffs, when he cost the Thunder the series by getting destroyed by Chandler.

Four other things for the historical revisionists...

Anyone remember Rondo getting a dislocated elbow in those same playoffs? Hard to argue that no Perkins cost us a ring.

Another thing was, OKC was able to extend him pre-lockout, where the CBA prevented us from going above 4y/22m. Had we kept him, he would have hit unrestricted free agency in a market that paid DeAndre like 11m a year and Chandler like 15m+.

As to Green, without the heart condition, quite possible we could have won a ring that year.

Last, the Clippers pick we got was pre-Chris Paul, and could have easily been a very good pick with better luck.

If Ainge kept Perk and gave him that extension, these same people would complain about Danny not trading him while he could still get some value for him.

Btw, looking back, getting Krstic, Green and unprotected Clips pick for Perk and Nate was a hell of a trade

Yeah, and while it was a risk to rely on Shaquille and Jermaine, both of those dudes were better than KP at the time.

[GreenMachine]

Since ANY trade can't happen until Monday now... I wonder if Green is in the lineup tomorrow night???

[KamikazeK]

One. More. Time. WHAT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE? Rondo and Green were both going to walk this offseason... PLEASE tell us what you would have done differently???

I keep asking this of the people who are against what Danny is doing... and keep getting ignored. I wonder why?

I wouldn't have traded Rondo. I would have taken my chances with him possibly leaving in free agency. It's not like we got anything of value for him anyways.

OK... so you wouldn't have traded Rondo... AND THEN WHAT?

A. If Rondo signed... THEN WHAT?
B. If Rondo walked... THEN WHAT?

It's easy to say Danny is doing a bad job... it's a lot harder to lay out an alternative. But please... enlighten us...

I don't have all the information that Ainge does. Obviously I can't tell you exactly what I would do, but for starters I probably would not have traded Rondo.

[GreenMachine]

I wouldn't have traded Rondo. I would have taken my chances with him possibly leaving in free agency. It's not like we got anything of value for him anyways.

OK... so you wouldn't have traded Rondo... AND THEN WHAT?

A. If Rondo signed... THEN WHAT?
B. If Rondo walked... THEN WHAT?

It's easy to say Danny is doing a bad job... it's a lot harder to lay out an alternative. But please... enlighten us...

I don't have all the information that Ainge does. Obviously I can't tell you exactly what I would do, but for starters I probably would not have traded Rondo.

LOL. That "information" DA had/has included the fact the Rondo wasn't coming back next year. So now what? You are real good at pointing fingers... but you have now admitted you don't have a better idea. Let that sink it.

[KamikazeK]

OK... so you wouldn't have traded Rondo... AND THEN WHAT?

A. If Rondo signed... THEN WHAT?
B. If Rondo walked... THEN WHAT?

It's easy to say Danny is doing a bad job... it's a lot harder to lay out an alternative. But please... enlighten us...

I don't have all the information that Ainge does. Obviously I can't tell you exactly what I would do, but for starters I probably would not have traded Rondo.

LOL. That "information" DA had/has included the fact the Rondo wasn't coming back next year. So now what? You are real good at pointing fingers... but you have now admitted you don't have a better idea. Let that sink it.

I already told you I wouldn't mind if he left after the year. If that's what happens, then fine. I would've taken my chances with that. The fact that I don't have more information just means I can't tell you much more other than that.

[GreenMachine]

I don't have all the information that Ainge does. Obviously I can't tell you exactly what I would do, but for starters I probably would not have traded Rondo.

LOL. That "information" DA had/has included the fact the Rondo wasn't coming back next year. So now what? You are real good at pointing fingers... but you have now admitted you don't have a better idea. Let that sink it.

I already told you I wouldn't mind if he left after the year. If that's what happens, then fine. I would've taken my chances with that. The fact that I don't have more information just means I can't tell you much more other than that.

Thanks for playing. You loose.

[KamikazeK]

LOL. That "information" DA had/has included the fact the Rondo wasn't coming back next year. So now what? You are real good at pointing fingers... but you have now admitted you don't have a better idea. Let that sink it.

I already told you I wouldn't mind if he left after the year. If that's what happens, then fine. I would've taken my chances with that. The fact that I don't have more information just means I can't tell you much more other than that.

Thanks for playing. You loose.

You mean "lose," don't you?