Mark Jackson Attempted To Turn The Jazz Against John Stockton At The End Of His Career

Post #21 » by **kingkirk** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:22 am

Tinseltown wrote:Mark Jackson was right that Stockton isn't a good leader. The way this article paints him, soft spoken and closer to ownership than his teammates, suggests that there never was a strong locker room in place even before Jackson arrived

God i hope you're trolling.

Illuminati_ · Post #22 » by **Illuminati_** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:33 am

21/20/10/8 wrote:
oikosnomos wrote:
Good lord, exactly what I am taking about. Rape? Are you equating the situation? Also, I was unaware Cosby was convicted of rape. Only alleged. People are so eager to convict and destroy with no knowledge of anything so they can feel self-righteous.

So people shouldn't speak up on situations according to you... jeez... I would advise you to stop posting because you are coming off bad but feel free to keep posting...

What is there to speak up about? A locker room rift from 12-13 years ago????

And you equate that to a man taking advantage over a woman? Lol oh boy.

This is plain character assassination. Just think of the timing of all this

Illuminati_ · Post #23 » by **Illuminati_** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:36 am

Tinseltown wrote:Mark Jackson was right that Stockton isn't a good leader. The way this article paints him, soft spoken and closer to ownership than his teammates, suggests that there never was a strong locker room in place even before Jackson arrived

Oh no dont say thAt here! Hes the great white legend!

The way stockton is heralded is hilarious. Great player but the stories of how soft spoke. And tough he is..there were ofher leaders on that team

jamesnamida · Post #24 » by **jamesnamida** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:50 am

Lol as much as I'd like to join in on the Jackson hate, this is a wordpress page and article guys....

spacemonkey · Post #25 » by **spacemonkey** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:47 am

jamesnamida wrote:Lol as much as I'd like to join in on the Jackson hate, this is a wordpress page and article guys....

It's fairly well sourced, though. And from those sources, (and I'm not saying the sources are accurate), the picture is fairly clearly painted.

oikosnomos · Post #26 » by **oikosnomos** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:52 am

21/20/10/8 wrote:
oikosnomos wrote:
Good lord, exactly what I am taking about. Rape? Are you equating the situation? Also, I was unaware Cosby was convicted of rape. Only alleged. People are so eager to convict and destroy with no knowledge of anything so they can feel self-righteous.

So people shouldn't speak up on situations according to you... jeez... I would advise you to stop posting because you are coming off bad but feel free to keep posting...

Speak up on situations? This story is getting dragged up 13 years later for what? Because there is some need to drag Marc Jackson through the mud because he isn't a good coach? To say "I hope he burns in hell" and story bring up rape allegations of Cosby like there is some tangible comparison. Unless you are saying that I am somehow saying something about the Cosby thing. I am not, one way or the other, but we've already got somebody talking like he did it, like they know something. Wow! Incredible hubris.

oikosnomos · Post #27 » by **oikosnomos** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:56 am

Amish Mafioso wrote:
oikosnomos wrote:
bovice wrote:
yeah cosby raped a couple girls like 10 years ago, whats the point of bring it up now?

Good lord, exactly what I am taking about. Rape? Are you equating the situation? Also, I was unaware Cosby was convicted of rape. Only alleged. People are so eager to convict and destroy with no knowledge of anything so they can feel self-righteous.

Maybe you have a point. After all, everybody deserves a second chance. Now that I think about it, Cleveland might be looking for a coach soon, and Jackson might fit right in. I say go for it.

LOL, I don't want him as a coach. I can not like him as coach and also not feel the need to have the opinion that turd, or whatever it is you claim him to be. See I can separate those two things. The need to demonize him is really bizarre to me.

Amish Mafioso · Post #28 » by **Amish Mafioso** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:58 am

oikosnomos wrote:
Amish Mafioso wrote:
oikosnomos wrote:
Good lord, exactly what I am taking about. Rape? Are you equating the situation? Also, I was unaware Cosby was convicted of rape. Only alleged. People are so eager to convict and destroy with no knowledge of anything so they can feel self-righteous.

Maybe you have a point. After all, everybody deserves a second chance. Now that I think about it, Cleveland might be looking for a coach soon, and Jackson might fit right in. I say go for it.

LOL, I don't want him as a coach. I can not like him as coach and also not feel the need to have the opinion that turd, or whatever it is you claim him to be. See I can separate those two things. The need to demonize him is really bizarre to me.

I don't feel the need to demonize him, I just think he's a dick. Personally, I don't care about the whole mess with him in GS, but I'm old enough to remember what he did to our locker room by organizing a mutiny against our HOF point guard. Doesn't help that every time he tries to talk about Stockton, he goes out of his way to dismiss him as a player. Not sure if you read the article this thread was started for, but it tells in detail what a cancer this guy was in our locker room. Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion, but if he was ever exposed to your team, I have no doubt you'd end up in my corner.

HawaiianJazzFan · Post #29 » by **HawaiianJazzFan** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:52 pm

Yeah, pretty much everyone knows about this in Utah. It's the reason why when he calls games here (obviously not many recently), he hangs out in the tunnel by himself, and really never walks around the arena. He pissed a lot of people off in this organization.

mg · Post #30 » by mg » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:27 pm

Fact: Alot of current and former NBA star players are douches.

Sasaki · Post #31 » by **Sasaki** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:33 pm

Just going to point out this little tidbit in the article which shows that it is taking things too far:

During Mark Jackson’s tenure as an ABC/ESPN analyst, he became the initial voice to champion the notion that Tim Duncan was the best power forward to ever play (misguided by the fact that Duncan is a center, Malone statistically was a better player, and that even today an overwhelming majority still hold Malone in higher regard)

6rings4LeClutch · Post #32 » by **6rings4LeClutch** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:58 pm

Lmao are they trying to dismiss TD as a 4 to shine light on Malone :lol:

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ufsports · Post #33 » by **ufsports** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:36 pm

How good was that Jazz team?
Is Stockton's autobiography any good?

This further lowers my opinion of Mark Jackson. Anyone who disses my 3rd favorite coach of all time is on my bad side...

gipper08 · Post #34 » by **gipper08** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:40 pm

I am no longer on the fence about mark jackson. Something is actually wrong with him.

HoraryAstrology · Post #35 » by **HoraryAstrology** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:47 pm

Makes sense, Jackson is an Aries and Stockton is a Pisces. Aries are supposed to be "A-Holes" or Fiery as I prefer, that's just the nature of the Ram. From a personal perspective, I don't care about anyone attempting to get me to dislike a person, I will always go with my own views and opinions. I see it as a waste of energy to try to create tension like that but you can do what you want with your own energy. It will always come back good or bad so... *shrugs*

Post #36 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:23 pm

Can an article be both biased and correct at the same time?

olive_triangurl · Post #37 » by **olive_triangurl** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:46 pm

NapoleonII wrote:
killacalijatt wrote:Jackson is a piece of garbage. I never understood how someone banging a stripper becomes a pastor and worst part of it is people listen to that piece of ****. When all fails turn to religion i guess.

Im glad the Dubs dumped his piece of crap ass.

Not about religion.

I'm fairy certain Mark Jackson's "turning to religion" isn't really turning to anything other than his own sorry excuses, narcisim and douchbaggery. Does that sound anything like Jesus?

No, but the worst people in the world often turn to religion (because they aren't strong enough to change their ways), so the church often has a truckload of a-holes that we must beware of.

NapoleonII · Post #38 » by **NapoleonII** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:58 pm

olive_triangurl wrote:
NapoleonII wrote:
killacalijatt wrote:Jackson is a piece of garbage. I never understood how someone banging a stripper becomes a pastor and worst part of it is people listen to that piece of ****. When all fails turn to religion i guess.

Im glad the Dubs dumped his piece of crap ass.

Not about religion.

I'm fairy certain Mark Jackson's "turning to religion" isn't really turning to anything other than his own sorry excuses, narcisim and douchbaggery. Does that sound anything like Jesus?

No, but the worst people in the world often turn to religion (because they aren't strong enough to change their ways), so the church often has a truckload of a-holes that we must beware of.

Religion is often the one thing in the world that says "Change your ways!"

People fall short and they are hypocrites. Everything has a truckload of ****.

Post #39 » by **pacers33granger** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:41 pm

oikosnomos wrote:And the character assassination continues. What is the point of all this? The man lost his job and has been insulted and disrespected well after he has been gone. Now we are dragging up stuff from over a decade ago?

I don't think he is a great coach, but the need for people to keep disparaging him is disturbing.

Well in this situation it's almost the exact same thing he did before he got fired so it's relevant. There's enough stuff out there that is 100% true about him that shows he's a selfish jerk who will throw anyone under the bus if it benefits him.

I don't consider it "character assassination" when the guy in question clearly lacks any character and has been proven to for a long time now. People gave him the benefit of the doubt before when it wasn't clear. And he's still heavily involved in the NBA so people should be calling him out on his crap. It's not like he's been black balled from the league and is sitting at home doing nothing while people talk crap about him.

Post #40 » by **boomershadow** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:54 pm

mg wrote:Fact: A lot of current and former NBA star players are douches.

Exactly. I never heard much about him while he was here in Indiana. I am sure Larry Brown outclassed him as a douche in most ways anyway, but he was a great point guard, and that is what counts most.