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Finals push this season. To add players or not?

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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#21 » by azuresou1 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:22 pm

Don't fix it if it ain't broke.
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Post#22 » by td00 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:45 pm

It sounds like Ainge may offer Tayshaun Prince a buyout instead of him joining the team.

Anyone interested in him coming here and being an insurance policy to DMC? He could fit into the cap quite nicely IMO and I like his skillset.
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Post#23 » by Hawk Eye » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:56 pm

I don't know enough about prince but he had a very solid game off the bench when he played against us
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Post#24 » by td00 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:28 pm

83% FT this year....

8/26 games in double figures

He was averaging 24mpg with Memphis.....he would seem to be a good fit for this system IMO and come cheap.
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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#25 » by slc24 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:52 pm

Enes Kanter?
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Post#26 » by td00 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:06 am

slc24 wrote:Enes Kanter?


That could make a lot of sense as it sure seems like Enes is gettable. He is getting limited minutes.

But he's going to cost whether you get him now or next year. He might be primed for 10M come next training camp.
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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#27 » by graymule » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:33 pm

Epfou1:

You say:
Blazemore and Thabo can't shoot.
Antic is a disappointment.
Brand is too old and can't play center.

Yet, the Hawks keep winning. Must be doing something right.

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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#28 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:13 am

graymule wrote:Epfou1:

You say:
Blazemore and Thabo can't shoot.
Antic is a disappointment.
Brand is too old and can't play center.

Yet, the Hawks keep winning. Must be doing something right.

:)


We are playign welll and Coach Bud is plugging along to his first Coach of the Year award...but I fear it is unwise to simply ignore our shortcomings completely.

God forbid Horfy or Thrillsap goes down for any length of time to injury...do we have the depth to survive? Could we survive if Demarre goes down? It's the GM's job to prepare for all contingencies.

I'm unsire whether upsetting the balance is of the roster is a good idea. But I acknowledge we indeed have limited players off the bench. CHI in the playoffs are going to be a load to handle...
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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#29 » by td00 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:44 pm

Jamaal, you're right about CHI, but you gotta get out of the 1st round first. IMO, any team but CLE.

Would not surprise me to see Indy in that slot....Brooklyn isn't going to fix their issues.
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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#30 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:50 pm

So now that we have the open roster spot (and additional trade bait in the form of a future protected pick), does this change the temperature of the room?

Is it more advantageous to bring in a vet?
Should we be looking at frontcourt or back court help?

Are we holding out for refugees of the Chinese basketball League?
Is Ray Allen actually coming here?!?
Was Adreian simply a cancer and we simply value the empty space on the bench greater than any value he ever possibly hope to contribute?

ARE We preparing for the return of Ivan the Terrible?!?
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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#31 » by PandaKidd » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:20 pm

All hinges on what Thabos health REALLY is. If he is truly on the road to recovery and they believe end of March hes healthy and cant be in shape for playoffs....

Then we need another Big IMO. Brand is a stop gap. So with Muscala, AH, Millsap, Pero, i would think we need another rebounding person. Especially if you think we are going against CHI and CLE in the playoffs.

I want no part of Ray Allen.
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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#32 » by Hawk Eye » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:46 pm

I'd prefer rebounding over Ray allens shooting.
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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#33 » by azuresou1 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:11 pm

I'd prefer a guy like Darrell Arthur - big enough to fill in at 4/5, while athletic and mobile enough to guard the 3 for stretches.
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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#34 » by theatlfan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:33 pm

1) Let's not pair Payne's deal with this. Sure, it opens a roster spot, but I figure we could have made one another way if we really wanted one. After hearing Coach Bud's comments, it was clear we simply wanted to cut bait with Payne and the MIN 1st was both the best offer we were going to get and is more fungible - both now and down the road - than Payne.

2) The chase for Allen and now the Neal rumors are making me think that we're chasing a vet with Title experience. Both Allen and Neal are SG's though and I wonder if that's intentional or simply that the fact we're not actually giving anything up is a factor as to why we're not insisting on someone who can patrol SF primarily. Still think a stopgap wing to replace Thabo is the #1 priority but now I'm wondering if we're OK just going with a Demarre / Korver platoon at SF every night and snagging an SG to replace Thabo instead of an SF...

3) I've asked this in another thread, but there wasn't really an answer so I'll put it here to: do we honestly think that our FO would view an upgrade in the front court as a priority? I mean, sure, if NOP came to us and said "AD for Pero" then we pull the trigger in a NY minute, but would we actively seek an upgrade here? From a 40,000' view, I say no. Our starters are AS and our backups have good to very good advanced stats. I can understand the worry about rebounding, but there's more than one way to fix that problem and a(nother) good rebounding wing to replace Thabo can do wonders.
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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#35 » by xccelerate » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:14 pm

theatlfan wrote:3) I've asked this in another thread, but there wasn't really an answer so I'll put it here to: do we honestly think that our FO would view an upgrade in the front court as a priority? I mean, sure, if NOP came to us and said "AD for Pero" then we pull the trigger in a NY minute, but would we actively seek an upgrade here? From a 40,000' view, I say no. Our starters are AS and our backups have good to very good advanced stats. I can understand the worry about rebounding, but there's more than one way to fix that problem and a(nother) good rebounding wing to replace Thabo can do wonders.


Only thing that worries me about our front court is Pero. He missed so many wide shots in the Indiana series and the way he's playing recently hasn't been too promising. I can just picture a pick and rolls with Dennis or Teague where he ends up missing a wide open 3s in the playoffs.

That said, I can't think of someone who could fit in his role and mesh with this team's chemistry in the remaining 28 games + 1st round. It might be better if its left unaddressed as long as he sets good screens and hope he doesn't miss too many looks.
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Re: Finals push this season. To add players or not? 

Post#36 » by theatlfan » Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:56 am

xccelerate wrote:Only thing that worries me about our front court is Pero. He missed so many wide shots in the Indiana series and the way he's playing recently hasn't been too promising. I can just picture a pick and rolls with Dennis or Teague where he ends up missing a wide open 3s in the playoffs.

That said, I can't think of someone who could fit in his role and mesh with this team's chemistry in the remaining 28 games + 1st round. It might be better if its left unaddressed as long as he sets good screens and hope he doesn't miss too many looks.

Problem is that even Antic is putting up an RAPM ~50th in the league. No stat is the be-all end-all or anything but when a backup is rating amoung the league leaders in any stat then it's doubtful you're going to do better at this point - especially for a big. I know that many here aren't in love with Antic (and he's hard to watch) but he's actually a decent player especially for a backup grade player.

Also, a playoff series is really too fickle to judge a player on - especially for a rookie. For example, outside of 1 game, Mike Sxott shot a similar percentage as Pero in that series...
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