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TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others?

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Giving Up (the) Farmar 

Post#21 » by Ranma » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:26 am

mttwlsn16 wrote:Rivers》》》》》》Farmar


I thought the same thing and was happy to swap Farmar for him, but the Celtics don't want to risk having JF exercise his player option for next season even though there is a decent chance he would not opt in. Oh well, just package him with Crawford or whomever for a solution at small forward.

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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(!!!), others? 

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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(!!!), others? 

Post#23 » by Sofia » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:35 am

ejftw wrote:What's the Crawford trade?

According to Realgm twitter, we are apparently satisfied that we can move Crawford after acquiring Rivers.
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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(!!!), others? 

Post#24 » by ejftw » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:36 am

Assumed as much, but the way it was worded hints that a deal has been agreed too....
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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(!!!), others? 

Post#25 » by TucsonClip » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:38 am

Sofia wrote:
ejftw wrote:What's the Crawford trade?

According to Realgm twitter, we are apparently satisfied that we can move Crawford after acquiring Rivers.


That's them speculating. I imgine they try to find a home for Farmar in another 3-way or package Wilcox/Bullock and someone to or a SF and then take Rivers for a protected 2nd.
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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(!!!), others? 

Post#26 » by Sofia » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:42 am

ejftw wrote:Assumed as much, but the way it was worded hints that a deal has been agreed too....

I just realised I didn't put '?'s on crawford.

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Talk About Overpayment 

Post#27 » by Ranma » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:44 am

Sofia wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/554072476385148928[/tweet]


I'm more than fine with giving up Farmar, but we better not deal either Wilcox or Bullock. Giving up early on them for a tryout of the coach's son is unacceptable.
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Stop handing out player options, Doc. 

Post#28 » by Ranma » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:48 am

In addition to his apparent indifference to the value of draft picks, Doc has to stop handing out player options to free agents, especially to the likes of only Byron Mullens and Jordan Farmar. They complicate the inevitable buyer's remorse trade he subsequently makes where he has to buy his way out in paying more than he otherwise would have to.
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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others? 

Post#29 » by LACtdom » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:07 am

If acquiring Rivers (trading Farmar) is to replace a player like Jamal who might be traded then who are we going to trade to get another PG or will Rivers + Bullock be our backcourt?
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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others? 

Post#30 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:18 am

Austin Rivers SUCKS. This is nepotism, plain and simple. #FireDoc
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Post#31 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:19 am

Farmar seems to be a better player than Rivers although he hasn't always shown it on the Clippers. Rivers certainly wouldn't replace Crawford so I don't get that logic at all. As much as I like Crawford, if Denver offered Chandler, the Clips would probably have to do the deal.
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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others? 

Post#32 » by Sofia » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:22 am

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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others? 

Post#33 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:23 am

Sofia wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/NBANewsAnd1/status/554080758370160640[/tweet]

I really don't buy that. If his last name wasn't Rivers, no way we'd be going after him, especially given Doc's aversion to young players.
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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others? 

Post#34 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:48 am

Boston doesn't really want to take on long-term money.. We're already stuck with Jameer Nelson, who has a player option for next year. We don't need to add Farmar on top of that. The supposed reason we're flipping Austin is because we already have "too many guards."
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Woj Report 

Post#35 » by Ranma » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:59 am

Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports (1/10/15)
Doc Rivers told reporters on Saturday he’d be open to coaching his son, and several members of the organization, including general manager Dave Wohl and assistant coaches Lawrence Frank and Mike Woodson, have encouraged Doc Rivers to forget the perception of nepotism and take on Austin Rivers, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

The case they’ve made is this: With Austin Rivers at 22 years old and no contract obligations beyond this season, the Clippers can use the rest of the season to evaluate him and see how salvageable his future can be in the NBA. He has virtually no value on the trade market, but there's interest with taking a look at him as a developmental player to come off a team's bench.

Austin Rivers is shooting 38 percent this season, but the Clippers have a roster spot and need for a young backup point guard and had been scouring the league. Los Angeles doesn’t have many assets to trade, and Rivers could be worth a look. Nevertheless, Doc and Austin Rivers would have to deal with the perception and pressures that comes with beliefs that bringing the son to the franchise is simply a father trying to benefit his son – not the organization.

The Celtics don’t want to take contract salary beyond this year, but the sides have been discussing possible trade scenarios on Saturday, sources said.

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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others? 

Post#36 » by Neddy » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:15 am

Austin is better overall player than Farmar who is at this point only a spot up shooter with a racehorse's field of vision.

and this now explains why Doc has been sporting Jamal exclusively in 4th despite of our despair. showcasing a trading chip isn't a bad idea if he can really net us Chandler type of a SF in a package with Farmar. Im actually pretty stoked with this possibility.

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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others? 

Post#37 » by clip set » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:19 am

In reality we could have gotten the same production as Rivers out of Jared Cunningham, who we just got rid of. I don't see how this is anything other than Doc wanting his kid on the team. I dislike Farmar as much as the next guy, he's basically a worse version of Jamal in every way, but I don't get the allure of trading for Rivers.

Based on his track record, I doubt Doc converts Jamal or anyone else into an SF where we get a net gain in the trade. I'm wary of letting go of Jamal because we seriously need him. We'd be getting nothing out of our bench if we didn't have him. He gets flak for his shot selection but I think it's largely a function of what's asked of him and situations that he's put in by coaching and the other players. There are so many broken possessions where the ball just gets handed off to him with a few seconds left on the shot clock and everyone just expects him to improvise. I think he's a better player than his stats and efficiency actually suggest, and it's not like he isn't a willing passer when the opportunity presents itself. He can obviously be aggravating at times, but I think the good outweighs the bad.
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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others? 

Post#38 » by LACtdom » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:26 am

clip set wrote:In reality we could have gotten the same production as Rivers out of Jared Cunningham, who we just got rid of. I don't see how this is anything other than Doc wanting his kid on the team. I dislike Farmar as much as the next guy, he's basically a worse version of Jamal in every way, but I don't get the allure of trading for Rivers.

Based on his track record, I doubt Doc converts Jamal or anyone else into an SF where we get a net gain in the trade. I'm wary of letting go of Jamal because we seriously need him. We'd be getting nothing out of our bench if we didn't have him. He gets flak for his shot selection but I think it's largely a function of what's asked of him and situations that he's put in by coaching and the other players. There are so many broken possessions where the ball just gets handed off to him with a few seconds left on the shot clock and everyone just expects him to improvise. I think he's a better player than his stats and efficiency actually suggest, and it's not like he isn't a willing passer when the opportunity presents itself. He can obviously be aggravating at times, but I think the good outweighs the bad.


I agree. Is Rivers a whole 'pick' worth of value better than Cunningham? I think Jamal would be a lot better if he played like Farmar in the sense of being the bench facilitator and a spot up shooter. Austin Rivers is not going to be the piece that wins us a chip so I'm very curious how trading a pick away to get him will help us secure that alluring SF/6 man we've been after. I think fixing our bench should be top priority. Rivers doesn't solve this.
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Post#39 » by Lindecision » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:16 am

If we're parting with a 2nd then it better mean Farmar is going the other way. Rivers is better than Farmar, at least in terms of upside, so I have no problem with this. We'll have to get used to the nepotism jabs though.
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Post#40 » by kylem4711 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:49 am

Clippers declined a trade for jeff green that would have costed Matt Barnes, Jamal Crawford and a first-round pick

What do u think?

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