Jeff Green Traded to the Memphis Grizzlies (official woj tweet page 1)

[GreenMachine]

Danny Ainge might be the only idiot in the NBA who assigns any value to second round picks.

Right... because Monta sucks... and Parsons... Millsap... Sprewell... Manu... or for that matter Gomes, Powe, Baby... (Gomes helped us get KG... Baby got us Bass...)

Seconds aren't worthless, but the odds of getting a good player are much lower- the pool of talent is smaller, you're basically talking about guys who slip through the cracks and get passed up by every team. Sometimes it's because they're high schoolers from small Southern towns (Monta), sometimes they're guys with questions about size or athleticism (Millsap), sometimes they're Euros.. Asik was a second-rounder, I think.. Maybe Gortat, too. But Ainge likes to get college guys with his second-rounders, usually ones with a lot of skill and questions about athleticism. When those guys can cope in the league, you get a steal- but I don't think he's ever drafted a Euro, and that's where you stand the best chance of hitting with a second-rounder.

Plus they never get traded for 1sts, even if you're offering a dozen of them. Their value doesn't really aggregate on the NBA trade market.

Sure... odds are lower. But the odds are WAY BETTER then if you don't have them at all.

Also... wasn't it a 2nd (or two?) that moved us up to take KO? If we use all these seconds to move up 3 or 4 spots to get the guy DA really wants in each draft over the next 5 years... that will have made them VERY valuable.

[GreenMachine]

Also... with Basketball getting more and more popular in places like Canada, Australia, China, etc etc etc... the draft pool keeps getting bigger. By 2019 or whenever we get this pick... a 2nd rounder will be even more valuable then they are today. Five years ago there was (I think) ONE Australian player in the league... now there are a handful and some really good ones coming in the next few years... Same with Canada. And like ten other countries...

[Andrew McCeltic]

Yeah, it's not that they're useless, I'm not saying that. I just think we should've held onto Wright a little bit longer, even at the risk of getting nothing. And I'd rather have Austin Rivers than another second-rounder..

[humblebum]

Has anyone mentioned the d-league? Maybe this increased revenue might lead to d-league expansion? LOL Maybe that is why the Celtics are grabbing so many draft picks?

[BleedGreen1989]

Has anyone mentioned the d-league? Maybe this increased revenue might lead to d-league expansion? LOL Maybe that is why the Celtics are grabbing so many draft picks?

Danny is going to use the D-League like an actual minor league/farm team.

Red Claws games are going to be awesome.

[GreenMachine]

Yeah, it's not that they're useless, I'm not saying that. I just think we should've held onto Wright a little bit longer, even at the risk of getting nothing. And I'd rather have Austin Rivers than another second-rounder..

If Green is only worth a 1st rounder and Rivers... there is VERY little chance Wright could fetch you any more then he did... no matter how long you waited. And Rivers is NOTHING. Nothing at all. And he's expiring. A 2nd round pick is worth way more then Rivers (Austin that is... Doc Rivers is worth an unprotected 1st! )

[Andrew McCeltic]

I'd say there's a 50 percent chance someone of Wright's caliber gets traded for a first-rounder in the next month. And a 75 percent chance that whoever we draft with the Clippers' second-rounder will be inferior to Austin Rivers.

[GreenMachine]

I'd say there's a 50 percent chance someone of Wright's caliber gets traded for a first-rounder in the next month. And a 75 percent chance that whoever we draft with the Clippers' second-rounder will be inferior to Austin Rivers.

I say there is a ZERO percent chance someone of Wright's caliber gets traded for a first-rounder in the next month. ZERO. Have you ever watched Wright play? He's a 4th big on a good team. But of course... you know better then Danny and his team.

[GreenMachine]

I'd say there's a 50 percent chance someone of Wright's caliber gets traded for a first-rounder in the next month. And a 75 percent chance that whoever we draft with the Clippers' second-rounder will be inferior to Austin Rivers.

Why don't you take that to the 'trade board' and ask if any team would be willing to give a first for Wright... I know you won't, because you don't want to look like a fool... but you should... because you simply don't know what you are talking about.

[jfs1000d]

Salary. This is all about salary. Wright was a salary dump, we saved that salary for a guy we don't want. Rivers? We aren't dumping him and adding salary for 15-16 and if we can trade him for a Tuy cheaper, we will do it.

[jfs1000d]

We r losing anyway. Danny is saving money for the summer. We weren't resigning wright, not resigning rivers, or bass, or nelson etc.

[GreenMachine]

We also needed Wright's roster spot to make the Green trade.

[Celts17Pride]

Why do I get the feeling I'll wake up tomorrow and this 3 team trade will end up being a 6 team trade. Ainge at his best.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I'd say there's a 50 percent chance someone of Wright's caliber gets traded for a first-rounder in the next month. And a 75 percent chance that whoever we draft with the Clippers' second-rounder will be inferior to Austin Rivers.

Why don't you take that to the 'trade board' and ask if any team would be willing to give a first for Wright... I know you won't, because you don't want to look like a fool... but you should... because you simply don't know what you are talking about.

Come on. Here's a link to the trade board's discussion of Wright to Phoenix, both before and after the trade happened. About half the posters seem to think Boston could've had more. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1362735

I'd also point out that we DID get a first-rounder for Wright- it's just highly protected. I think we could've had a pick that doesn't turn into second-rounders at midnight. That's all. The TPE was probably part of it- I think we probably could've had a better 1st if we'd taken back another team's money. Just worth waiting 40 days, to me, to see if something better came along.

You don't really need to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. This is PretendGM anyway- none of us know what we're talking about. Which finger is that little yellow guy holding up?

[chakdaddy]

I say there is a ZERO percent chance someone of Wright's caliber gets traded for a first-rounder in the next month. ZERO. Have you ever watched Wright play? He's a 4th big on a good team. But of course... you know better then Danny and his team.

Why did we trade Rondo for him then?

[GreenMachine]

I'd say there's a 50 percent chance someone of Wright's caliber gets traded for a first-rounder in the next month. And a 75 percent chance that whoever we draft with the Clippers' second-rounder will be inferior to Austin Rivers.

Why don't you take that to the 'trade board' and ask if any team would be willing to give a first for Wright... I know you won't, because you don't want to look like a fool... but you should... because you simply don't know what you are talking about.

Come on. Here's a link to the trade board's discussion of Wright to Phoenix, both before and after the trade happened. About half the posters seem to think Boston could've had more. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1362735

I'd also point out that we DID get a first-rounder for Wright- it's just highly protected. I think we could've had a pick that doesn't turn into second-rounders at midnight. That's all. The TPE was probably part of it- I think we probably could've had a better 1st if we'd taken back another team's money. Just worth waiting 40 days, to me, to see if something better came along.

You don't really need to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. This is PretendGM anyway- none of us know what we're talking about. Which finger is that little yellow guy holding up?

You are 100% correct. Neither of us knows what we are talking about... which is why I am going to trust that the professionals in charge know more then both of us combined.

Why not wait 40 days? Did you hear all the b*tching last week when Brad became the worst coach ever because he couldn't figure out how to utilize 14 guys? That's why.

[GreenMachine]

I say there is a ZERO percent chance someone of Wright's caliber gets traded for a first-rounder in the next month. ZERO. Have you ever watched Wright play? He's a 4th big on a good team. But of course... you know better then Danny and his team.

Why did we trade Rondo for him then?

Don't be silly Chakdaddy... you are either being a Troll... or an idiot. Which is it? We didn't trade Rondo for Wright. Duh! We traded Rondo for numerous assets... ONE of which was Wright. And we did that because we KNEW we were going to flip Wright for whatever we could...

[jfs1000d]

I'd say there's a 50 percent chance someone of Wright's caliber gets traded for a first-rounder in the next month. And a 75 percent chance that whoever we draft with the Clippers' second-rounder will be inferior to Austin Rivers.

Why don't you take that to the 'trade board' and ask if any team would be willing to give a first for Wright... I know you won't, because you don't want to look like a fool... but you should... because you simply don't know what you are talking about.

Come on. Here's a link to the trade board's discussion of Wright to Phoenix, both before and after the trade happened. About half the posters seem to think Boston could've had more. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1362735

I'd also point out that we DID get a first-rounder for Wright- it's just highly protected. I think we could've had a pick that doesn't turn into second-rounders at midnight. That's all. The TPE was probably part of it- I think we probably could've had a better 1st if we'd taken back another team's money. Just worth waiting 40 days, to me, to see if something better came along.

You don't really need to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. This is PretendGM anyway- none of us know what we're talking about. Which finger is that little yellow guy holding up?

Who cares?

Wrigt was a bit player, we don't have to pay his salary, and he wasn't being used or resigned.

You guys are like people who sell over valued houses. I don't care what someone who isn't buying thinks it is worth, I am interested in what someone buying will pay

Danny did a good job getting rid of the player who had no use for us.

Don't you think we shopped the offer? And, how many deals could be mad without taking back salary?

[sully00]

I'd say there's a 50 percent chance someone of Wright's caliber gets traded for a first-rounder in the next month. And a 75 percent chance that whoever we draft with the Clippers' second-rounder will be inferior to Austin Rivers.

Why don't you take that to the 'trade board' and ask if any team would be willing to give a first for Wright... I know you won't, because you don't want to look like a fool... but you should... because you simply don't know what you are talking about.

Come on. Here's a link to the trade board's discussion of Wright to Phoenix, both before and after the trade happened. About half the posters seem to think Boston could've had more. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1362735

I'd also point out that we DID get a first-rounder for Wright- it's just highly protected. I think we could've had a pick that doesn't turn into second-rounders at midnight. That's all. The TPE was probably part of it- I think we probably could've had a better 1st if we'd taken back another team's money. Just worth waiting 40 days, to me, to see if something better came along.

You don't really need to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. This is PretendGM anyway- none of us know what we're talking about. Which finger is that little yellow guy holding up?

The issue is teams don't have the picks to deal Ainge has little leverage when he is only offering to take back expiring contracts and draft picks. He has been creative but for the most part if you asking for picks and no money beyond this year and you get it you have to take it. Otherwise the team your talking to takes their deal to someone else and now the odds of you getting anything get slim.

It is one thing to play hard ball with Jeff Green it is another to try it with Brandon Wright.

[brackdan70]

I say there is a ZERO percent chance someone of Wright's caliber gets traded for a first-rounder in the next month. ZERO. Have you ever watched Wright play? He's a 4th big on a good team. But of course... you know better then Danny and his team.

Why did we trade Rondo for him then?

Come on man!!!!