Another Try at the Jackson Conundrum: A formula

[bondom34]

This isn't so much a trade idea as a general outline for what I think would be a best case for OKC in a Jackson trade and a template to work from to see if anything is out there. I've had a few ideas but can't quite get it right, but the idea is something like:

OKC Out: Perk/RJ/Lamb

OKC In: Backup C and PG coming to a salary under 12 mil

The salary would be to get OKC back into the range under the tax, and the PG has to actually be a decent enough backup (not taking Cole from Miami, sorry). The big doesn't have to be anything special, just a defensive minded guy who isn't a complete non-factor in rim protection. To be honest, a package around Chalmers/Birdman would be decent by me, as would a 3 teamer w/ Zaza to OKC and RJ to a 3rd team w/ MKE getting something from that team. Any interest/ideas?

[puppa bear]

From a Miami point of view its a deal:

Bird/Chalmers for Perk/Lamb/Jackson.

[nykballa2k4]

This isn't so much a trade idea as a general outline for what I think would be a best case for OKC in a Jackson trade and a template to work from to see if anything is out there. I've had a few ideas but can't quite get it right, but the idea is something like:

OKC Out: Perk/RJ/Lamb

OKC In: Backup C and PG coming to a salary under 12 mil

The salary would be to get OKC back into the range under the tax, and the PG has to actually be a decent enough backup (not taking Cole from Miami, sorry). The big doesn't have to be anything special, just a defensive minded guy who isn't a complete non-factor in rim protection. To be honest, a package around Chalmers/Birdman would be decent by me, as would a 3 teamer w/ Zaza to OKC and RJ to a 3rd team w/ MKE getting something from that team. Any interest/ideas?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ljzg43l

something like that.
Obviously NY would be interested in a point guard. tbh even though I don't particularly like Hill, I would enterain PJ going to Indy and taking Hills higher salary for Calderon... Hill is a better age for our developmental stage.

[bondom34]

This isn't so much a trade idea as a general outline for what I think would be a best case for OKC in a Jackson trade and a template to work from to see if anything is out there. I've had a few ideas but can't quite get it right, but the idea is something like:

OKC Out: Perk/RJ/Lamb

OKC In: Backup C and PG coming to a salary under 12 mil

The salary would be to get OKC back into the range under the tax, and the PG has to actually be a decent enough backup (not taking Cole from Miami, sorry). The big doesn't have to be anything special, just a defensive minded guy who isn't a complete non-factor in rim protection. To be honest, a package around Chalmers/Birdman would be decent by me, as would a 3 teamer w/ Zaza to OKC and RJ to a 3rd team w/ MKE getting something from that team. Any interest/ideas?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ljzg43l

something like that.
Obviously NY would be interested in a point guard. tbh even though I don't particularly like Hill, I would enterain PJ going to Indy and taking Hills higher salary for Calderon... Hill is a better age for our developmental stage.

This isn't bad for OKC, but its pretty rough for Indy. And at the point of OKC getting Stuckey, I'd lose all interest in Calderon if he were there. I think you'd have to almost move him to a 3rd team at that point. I'd just do a deal with Indy in this case and try Perk/RJ for Ian/Watson or something similar, sending Perk to Philly with Lamb...NY is tough because really the only guy I liked much was Shump, and that boat just sailed.

[bondom34]

From a Miami point of view its a deal:

Bird/Chalmers for Perk/Lamb/Jackson.

I think I'd do this actually. Random, but if you have a second rounder would you add it?

Edit: Or add in something else smallish?

[UD4MVP]

From a Miami point of view its a deal:

Bird/Chalmers for Perk/Lamb/Jackson.

I think I'd do this actually. Random, but if you have a second rounder would you add it?

I would do this ASAP. I think Chalmers fits more on your squad than ours and Bird is still a good backup defensive big.

[bondom34]

From a Miami point of view its a deal:

Bird/Chalmers for Perk/Lamb/Jackson.

I think I'd do this actually. Random, but if you have a second rounder would you add it?

I would do this ASAP. I think Chalmers fits more on your squad than ours and Bird is still a good backup defensive big.

Yeah, I really like Chalmers as a good option, I'd do something very similar to this if not this exactly. If there were any extra small incentive added I'd def do it, just to make up for losing Lamb.

[puppa bear]

From a Miami point of view its a deal:

Bird/Chalmers for Perk/Lamb/Jackson.

I think I'd do this actually. Random, but if you have a second rounder would you add it?

Edit: Or add in something else smallish?

Yep, a second wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. I don't think it would be for any other Heat fans, as most are higher if RJ for us than Chalmers.

As UDMVP said Chalmers is a great fit for OKC, probably better than he is for us now & we all know the Impact Bird can have in minutes of the bench for a contender.

[bondom34]

From a Miami point of view its a deal:

Bird/Chalmers for Perk/Lamb/Jackson.

I think I'd do this actually. Random, but if you have a second rounder would you add it?

Edit: Or add in something else smallish?

Yep, a second wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. I don't think it would be for any other Heat fans, as most are higher if RJ for us than Chalmers.

As UDMVP said Chalmers is a great fit for OKC, probably better than he is for us now & we all know the Impact Bird can have in minutes of the bench for a contender.

Darn, I think I'd do it for sure. There was a Heat fan on the OKC board trying to push Cole and Deng in a deal, and I had no interest, but I'd do something smaller like this.

[Scoot McGroot]

This isn't so much a trade idea as a general outline for what I think would be a best case for OKC in a Jackson trade and a template to work from to see if anything is out there. I've had a few ideas but can't quite get it right, but the idea is something like:

OKC Out: Perk/RJ/Lamb

OKC In: Backup C and PG coming to a salary under 12 mil

The salary would be to get OKC back into the range under the tax, and the PG has to actually be a decent enough backup (not taking Cole from Miami, sorry). The big doesn't have to be anything special, just a defensive minded guy who isn't a complete non-factor in rim protection. To be honest, a package around Chalmers/Birdman would be decent by me, as would a 3 teamer w/ Zaza to OKC and RJ to a 3rd team w/ MKE getting something from that team. Any interest/ideas?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ljzg43l

something like that.
Obviously NY would be interested in a point guard. tbh even though I don't particularly like Hill, I would enterain PJ going to Indy and taking Hills higher salary for Calderon... Hill is a better age for our developmental stage.

This isn't bad for OKC, but its pretty rough for Indy.t. I'd just do a deal with Indy in this case and try Perk/RJ for Ian/Watson or something similar,.

I imagine that Bird would do that. A tough nosed veteran center and a young guard like RJ? Sure.

[bondom34]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ljzg43l

something like that.
Obviously NY would be interested in a point guard. tbh even though I don't particularly like Hill, I would enterain PJ going to Indy and taking Hills higher salary for Calderon... Hill is a better age for our developmental stage.

This isn't bad for OKC, but its pretty rough for Indy.t. I'd just do a deal with Indy in this case and try Perk/RJ for Ian/Watson or something similar,.

I imagine that Bird would do that. A tough nosed veteran center and a young guard like RJ? Sure.

I'd be up for this too.

[NashtyNas]

Plumlee, Thomas, Goodwin for Perk, Lamb, 1st

Send RJ to a 3rd team for added incentive coming to us. Not sure what team that would be or what they would give up, but I'm sure someone can find a team that works.

Plumlee is now expendable with the addition of Wright, and Thomas has been expendable since day one.
Thomas is an excellent replacement for RJ, very similar player. High usage, volume shooter that excels at putting the ball in the hoop. He comes at a cheap price locked in so OKC doesn't have to worry about resigning him. Plumlee is an athletic big that can give you good minutes at backup C, but nothing special.

Westbrook/Thomas
Morrow/Waiters
Durant/PJ3
Ibaka/Collison
Adams/Plumlee

Soo... someone find a 3rd team to take RJ and send the Suns an asset or two.

[bondom34]

Plumlee, Thomas, Goodwin for Perk, Lamb, 1st

Send RJ to a 3rd team for added incentive coming to us. Not sure what team that would be or what they would give up, but I'm sure someone can find a team that works.

Plumlee is now expendable with the addition of Wright, and Thomas has been expendable since day one.
Thomas is an excellent replacement for RJ, very similar player. High usage, volume shooter that excels at putting the ball in the hoop. He comes at a cheap price locked in so OKC doesn't have to worry about resigning him. Plumlee is an athletic big that can give you good minutes at backup C, but nothing special.

Westbrook/Thomas
Morrow/Waiters
Durant/PJ3
Ibaka/Collison
Adams/Plumlee

Soo... someone find a 3rd team to take RJ and send the Suns an asset or two.

I'd be thrilled w/ this, but don't have a 1st. It would have to be:

Perk/RJ/Lamb for IT/Plumlee/Goodwin

Plumlee/IT/Goodwin for Perk/Lamb/1st

1st/other stuff for RJ for a 3rd team...any takers?

Edit: And this is by far my favorite so far.

[NaturalThunder]

I really like the trade for Thomas and Plumlee. Partially because Thomas is a player who's always been a thorn in OKC's side it seems; at least he was when he played for the Kings. That or the Birdman/Chalmers trade are by far my favorite.

[bondom34]

Plumlee, Thomas, Goodwin for Perk, Lamb, 1st

Send RJ to a 3rd team for added incentive coming to us. Not sure what team that would be or what they would give up, but I'm sure someone can find a team that works.

Plumlee is now expendable with the addition of Wright, and Thomas has been expendable since day one.
Thomas is an excellent replacement for RJ, very similar player. High usage, volume shooter that excels at putting the ball in the hoop. He comes at a cheap price locked in so OKC doesn't have to worry about resigning him. Plumlee is an athletic big that can give you good minutes at backup C, but nothing special.

Westbrook/Thomas
Morrow/Waiters
Durant/PJ3
Ibaka/Collison
Adams/Plumlee

Soo... someone find a 3rd team to take RJ and send the Suns an asset or two.

Would you do this w/ LA for the Houston 1st? Send RJ there for the pick, so PHX gets Perk/Lamb/Houston's pick, OKC gets IT/Plumlee, LA gets Jackson?

[NashtyNas]

I would rather get a mid first or two late firsts. How about including Houston instead and they get RJ while we get NOP's first?

[FutureKnicksGM]

This isn't so much a trade idea as a general outline for what I think would be a best case for OKC in a Jackson trade and a template to work from to see if anything is out there. I've had a few ideas but can't quite get it right, but the idea is something like:

OKC Out: Perk/RJ/Lamb

OKC In: Backup C and PG coming to a salary under 12 mil

The salary would be to get OKC back into the range under the tax, and the PG has to actually be a decent enough backup (not taking Cole from Miami, sorry). The big doesn't have to be anything special, just a defensive minded guy who isn't a complete non-factor in rim protection. To be honest, a package around Chalmers/Birdman would be decent by me, as would a 3 teamer w/ Zaza to OKC and RJ to a 3rd team w/ MKE getting something from that team. Any interest/ideas?

I've been posting Jose & Dalembert for Perk for 1/2 a year!

I think your'e selling a bit low.

This idea addresses the RJ/Backup pg spot, while maximizing assets imo, allowing OKC to address the backup C spot (and maybe more) following the deal.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ot9upe3

HOU in: RJ
HOU out: Shved, NO 2015 first.

They get RJ, and hope he can be there number 3 guy.

PHI in: Jeremy Lamb, Jason Smith, Cash from NY
PHI out: Cap generates a Trade Exception

Get a look at Lamb while taking on some expiring filler, plus cash from NY.

NY in: Perkins, Shved
NY out: Calderon, Smith, Cash from NY

Move Calderons deal.

OKC in: Calderon, NO 2015 first, A 7 million trade exception.
OKC out: RJ, Lamb, Perkins

Get a back up point, get a mid first, gain a large trade exception, open up a couple of roster spots for a potential backup center (Sammy D?).

[desi tmac91]

If Morey didn't overpay Parsons, he's not going to with RJ and giving up a late lottery pick in the process.

[BadWolf]

Jack and Plumlee for Jackson, Lamb, Perkins?
Jack would be ideal backup PG, Lamb is not needed and Perk.. well actually tough pill to swallow this year
Nets get PG of the future, SG prospect and expiring
Would they lose Plumlee for RJ?

[NaturalThunder]

Jack and Plumlee for Jackson, Lamb, Perkins?
Jack would be ideal backup PG, Lamb is not needed and Perk.. well actually tough pill to swallow this year
Nets get PG of the future, SG prospect and expiring
Would they lose Plumlee for RJ?

Can't see the Nets parting ways with Plumlee. I'm not sure what he is or what he will be, but I'm guessing he and maybe Teletovic and/or Bogdanovic are the only two players on the current roster they'd like to be a part of their future; I know those aren't exactly prime building blocks, but it's about the only talented, semi-high-ceiling young players they've got. I'd think if they kept losing games and falling further under .500, they'd be more willing to part ways with Lopez than Plumlee.

But I'd actually be ok with a trade that returned Jack and Plumlee. Jack tends to be a "Thunder Killer" and Plumlee would give us another good, decently high potential, young big. He might actually be better than Adams right now but I think Adams has a higher ceiling. Either way, you could just go with the hot hand on a given night.

I also like the Calderon/Dalembert trade, but I wouldn't want to do anything that sent Houston Reggie. It's hard enough watching Harden play like a top 5 player for Houston. It'd be devastating to trade Reggie there, see him become rejuvenated, and return to last season's form for another Western Conference playoff team.