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TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others?

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Post#41 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:08 am

kylem4711 wrote:Clippers declined a trade for jeff green that would have costed Matt Barnes, Jamal Crawford and a first-round pick

What do u think?

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Interesting, where'd you hear that?
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Post#42 » by mkwest » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:49 am

Here's the article that kylem alluded to.

The Clippers had the chance to be involved in a major trade, but ultimately the price was too high.

Boston small forward Jeff Green appears headed to Memphis, and like most small forwards on the trade block, he was on the Clippers’ radar. Green could have potentially been in a deal for Matt Barnes, Jamal Crawford and a first-round pick – likely the Clippers’ 2019 selection – but that was a cost the Clippers didn’t want to pay.


The Clippers also were interested in Memphis reserve forward Quincy Pondexter, who will reportedly be moved to New Orleans in the three-team deal that sent Green to the Grizzlies.


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Post#43 » by Lindecision » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:53 am

That's a crime. Not that it surprises me that much considering Doc's record as a GM.

I'm actually open to trading Bullock or Wilcox for Austin Rivers now that I think about it. As long as we get a future pick in return which can then be flipped in a future trade.
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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others? 

Post#44 » by LACtdom » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:11 am

Lindecision wrote:That's a crime. Not that it surprises me that much considering Doc's record as a GM.

I'm actually open to trading Bullock or Wilcox for Austin Rivers now that I think about it. As long as we get a future pick in return which can then be flipped in a future trade.

I doubt we will get a pick considering Boston only want picks and expiring contracts. If anything we will have to give up a pick to get Rivers.
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Post#45 » by Lindecision » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:46 am

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Lindecision wrote:That's a crime. Not that it surprises me that much considering Doc's record as a GM.

I'm actually open to trading Bullock or Wilcox for Austin Rivers now that I think about it. As long as we get a future pick in return which can then be flipped in a future trade.

I doubt we will get a pick considering Boston only want picks and expiring contracts. If anything we will have to give up a pick to get Rivers.


But at some point they will have more picks than roster spots. If Boston take on one of our prospects who will be on the books for the next 4 years, they will have to give up a future pick somehow. Not a 1st but like a high 2nd. Something we can package with our remaining 2nds.
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Post#46 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:42 pm

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kylem4711 wrote:Clippers declined a trade for jeff green that would have costed Matt Barnes, Jamal Crawford and a first-round pick

What do u think?

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Interesting, where'd you hear that?

I'm happy Doc turned that trade down. The Celtics were asking for way too much. Green isn't that great.
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Post#47 » by KyletheDingbat » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:48 pm

Rivers is one of the worst pros I've ever seen. Tank move?
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Post#48 » by 3pt threat » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:04 pm

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kylem4711 wrote:Clippers declined a trade for jeff green that would have costed Matt Barnes, Jamal Crawford and a first-round pick

What do u think?

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Interesting, where'd you hear that?

I'm happy Doc turned that trade down. The Celtics were asking for way too much. Green isn't that great.

Green is barely better than Barnes. C's wins that trade easily.
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Post#50 » by nickhx2 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:15 am

i hate how buzzworthy this all is, when in reality the team's fundamental flaws are mostly left unfixed even if we trade for him.
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Post#51 » by Ranma » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:24 am

mkwest wrote:Here's the article that kylem alluded to.

The Clippers also were interested in Memphis reserve forward Quincy Pondexter, who will reportedly be moved to New Orleans in the three-team deal that sent Green to the Grizzlies.


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Post#52 » by mttwlsn16 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:20 am

kylem4711 wrote:Clippers declined a trade for jeff green that would have costed Matt Barnes, Jamal Crawford and a first-round pick

What do u think?

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I'm ok with that, seems like too much to give up
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Post#53 » by mttwlsn16 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:22 am

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Interesting, where'd you hear that?

I'm happy Doc turned that trade down. The Celtics were asking for way too much. Green isn't that great.

Green is barely better than Barnes. C's wins that trade easily.


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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others? 

Post#54 » by LoneyROY » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:22 am

We need to trade Crawford.
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Post#55 » by bleeds_purple » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:26 am

clip set wrote:In reality we could have gotten the same production as Rivers out of Jared Cunningham, who we just got rid of. I don't see how this is anything other than Doc wanting his kid on the team. I dislike Farmar as much as the next guy, he's basically a worse version of Jamal in every way, but I don't get the allure of trading for Rivers.

Based on his track record, I doubt Doc converts Jamal or anyone else into an SF where we get a net gain in the trade. I'm wary of letting go of Jamal because we seriously need him. We'd be getting nothing out of our bench if we didn't have him. He gets flak for his shot selection but I think it's largely a function of what's asked of him and situations that he's put in by coaching and the other players. There are so many broken possessions where the ball just gets handed off to him with a few seconds left on the shot clock and everyone just expects him to improvise. I think he's a better player than his stats and efficiency actually suggest, and it's not like he isn't a willing passer when the opportunity presents itself. He can obviously be aggravating at times, but I think the good outweighs the bad.


It's a dilemma of sorts. The question is what is a more pressing need: a SF or the services Crawford provides. Certainly Crawford adds value and as you eluded to his FG% is effected based on his proclivity to take a lot of bail out shots for the team. On the other hand, needing a guy to constantly bail the offense out is a sign of systemic problem with the offense as a whole. And you'd probably rather have Blake and CP3 taking those shots anyway.

At the end of the day, given the team's cap situation Crawford is the obvious fall guy if a move is to be made for a SF.
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Re: TRADE IMMINENT - Rivers, Crawford(???), others? 

Post#56 » by LACtdom » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:01 am

I think if we traded Jamal it might force our bench to actually run plays instead of the Jamal show which may make our bench fit in better with our starters. We currently look like we have two different systems. One for the starters and one for the bench. One system half works, the other doesn't.
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Post#57 » by kylem4711 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:01 am

LACtdom wrote:I think if we traded Jamal it might force our bench to actually run plays instead of the Jamal show which may make our bench fit in better with our starters. We currently look like we have two different systems. One for the starters and one for the bench. One system half works, the other doesn't.


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Post#58 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:07 pm

I think we need a slasher in the half court, that would help our offense flow better. I really like Redick but he's more of a spot up shooter, so we need this at the SF spot.

I think the price for Green was too high.

I really wish we still had Collison as our backup PG. I think the Jamal show is what it is, partly because of Jamal and partly out of necessity. Collision was a better PG though who could really run the second unit with better balance. I never really liked Farmar even though I'm a UCLA alum.
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Post#59 » by Forte IV » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:30 pm

To me, if we're going after another guard, I want Wroten over Rivers. At least Wroten is a blur and can get to the rim at will. He's got 10 times the potential then Austin does. Plus Tony is 6'6.
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