OT: Woj: Tristan Thompson Turned Down 13 Mill Extension

[OakleyDokely]

Everyone thinks their Wilt Chamberlain

That's a new spin on the their, there, they're confusion.

Well done!

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cell phone.

But thanks for your input Grammar Police.

[nitrous]

LOL that's even more than Demar or Lowry make.

[Yuri Vaultin]

I think he is crazy for turning that down.

However most of you don't understand NBA FA market. The starting salary for any big who can be part of your rotational (24-30 min) is probably $6-8M. TT is young big drafted high and who still has potential. Plus add the cap increase in 2years. I would say market value should be around $10M. It was crazy how people here were like we can get him for $6M.

I'm pretty sure JV is going to at least ask for the current max which starts at $16M. Some heads here will explode.

And how much is Ed Davis making? TT has shown about as much, maybe even less than Ed did over the course of his rookie contract.

[Yolo]

JV is gonna get paid

[COY0607]

Does the agent really have THAT much pull, I mean if the Cavs re-sign TT, will LeBron really leave

[Indeed]

How much are we going to pay Amir?

[protothe]

He could've easily turned this down before Lebron agreed to come over. If that's the case, it could've simply been because he was tired of Kyrie's Cavs consistently underachieving and not because the money wasn't good enough.

Think about it...they wouldn't have offered 12mil/yr if they already had Love and Lebron to pay for.

[carl_english]

Thompson is not worth that and he knows it

[JN]

So if fellow Torontonian Tristan thompson doesn't sign here l, what makes people think Wiggins will?

Its hard for TT to sign if we are not making him an offer

[kirkwood]

Maybe he wants to play here for less

[22haytham22]

A buddy of mine is good friends with him. Told me he turned down 12 not 13. Either way he is nuts.

[KL78192020]

Good for him. Get all the money you can get. You're worth as much as someone is willing to pay you. Knowing the cavs he will get what he wants.

[Air Canada]

I can't see this being true. It would be incredibly stupid to turn down that much money.

[hankscorpioLA]

IMHO you guys are looking at this all wrong.

He didn't turn down $13 million a year. He turned down $54 million over 4 years.

Why is that relevant?

2 reasons:

1) New TV Deal

2) Expected CBA opt-out

Just doing a little math based on what I have read and the general sense is that the new TV deal alone would result in an increase of the salary cap by 30-40%. Since there aren't going to suddenly be more NBA players, that should mean an increase of all salaries by about that much. So one way to look at it is to say that, as a percentage of a team's salary cap, a salary of $13 million today would potentially be a little over $18 million under the new TV deal.

But then there is also the matter of the CBA and the broad expectation that the players are going to opt out and demand, if nothing else, a larger share of the pie. If the players are successful, then that just increases what salaries will be like afterwards.

That is why guess is that most players - and especially young players - are being advised by their agents to turn down pretty much any extension offers more than 2 years until the implications of all this are more clear. For an older player - someone like Kyle Lowry - that luxury doesn't exist. But even LeBron James, who is 30, was willing to take the risk and so signed a short deal, figuring he was going to cash in later.

[OakleyDokely]

I wouldn't want Tristan at 13 mill even under the conditions of a new TV deal.

[Hue Durant]

JV is gonna get paid

underestimating masai ujiri voodoo.

kyle for 12/year is the steal of the decade considering new cap

[HoopAndTheHarm]

IMHO you guys are looking at this all wrong.

He didn't turn down $13 million a year. He turned down $54 million over 4 years.

Why is that relevant?

2 reasons:

1) New TV Deal

2) Expected CBA opt-out

Just doing a little math based on what I have read and the general sense is that the new TV deal alone would result in an increase of the salary cap by 30-40%. Since there aren't going to suddenly be more NBA players, that should mean an increase of all salaries by about that much. So one way to look at it is to say that, as a percentage of a team's salary cap, a salary of $13 million today would potentially be a little over $18 million under the new TV deal.

But then there is also the matter of the CBA and the broad expectation that the players are going to opt out and demand, if nothing else, a larger share of the pie. If the players are successful, then that just increases what salaries will be like afterwards.

That is why guess is that most players - and especially young players - are being advised by their agents to turn down pretty much any extension offers more than 2 years until the implications of all this are more clear. For an older player - someone like Kyle Lowry - that luxury doesn't exist. But even LeBron James, who is 30, was willing to take the risk and so signed a short deal, figuring he was going to cash in later.

Bingo!

First off, the Cavs are becoming a bit of a circus show. LeBron was injured with no timetable for return (aka pouting over losing), then they deal Waiters, then a miraculous recovery. Now there's issues with the coach, etc. It's a mess and LeBron runs it. If the Cavs don't do something miraculous this year, they'll likely be forced into a new coach by LeBron and who knows what happens. Or worse, LeBron and/or Love opt out and you get stuck hanging out with Varejao, Irving, Mosgov and that's about it. Would you want to be committed to that environment for the next 4 years?

I think he's also looking for an opportunity to start and the Cavs are tied to Varejao for at least 2, possibly 3, seasons and will be looking to secure Love long term. They also sent a message by acquiring Mosgov...the message being "you're never more than our 3rd big". My guess is, as much as turning down the money, as the report frames it, he's turning down a long term commitment to the Cavs for the opportunity to explore better options.

If the deal had been for 1 or 2 years at that money, I'm betting he would have taken it. It's the years after that and the potential earning that comes with the TV deal and any potential opportunity to start that makes it a reasonable gamble for him not to sign right now and look for a better environment and opportunity.

[James Takote]

Everyone thinks their Wilt Chamberlain

That's a new spin on the their, there, they're confusion.

Well done!

they're

cell phone.

But thanks for your input Grammar Police.

So now their cellphone is they're cellphone... you've got some nerve

[OakleyDokely]

That's a new spin on the their, there, they're confusion.

Well done!

they're

cell phone.

But thanks for your input Grammar Police.

So now their cellphone is they're cellphone... you've got some nerve

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[stealthmode]

that's the market for big men nowadays. 10-14 million a year for guys like Varajeo, Pekovic Thompson etc crazy