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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#81 » by tomacorandom » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:35 pm

Thanks!
I was already checking that and as you said it makes no sense since Jimmy is set as the worst defender of the team by that. (In that list, beside Bairstow :lol: Brooks is still worse)

That lineup is the 7th more used btw.

This season when Pau Gasol and Taj Gibson are starters has 88.3 Opponent Points per Game (It means also Noah is out btw)

I'm not taking all on Noah but in probably the better balanced rotations as result of having 1 of our Centers out
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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#82 » by Rerisen » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:42 pm

tomacorandom wrote:This season when Pau Gasol and Taj Gibson are starters has 88.3 Opponent Points per Game (It means also Noah is out btw)


Yes the usual starting 5, but with Gibson in place of Noah, is at 101.6 Def Rtg, pretty good. Gibson and Pau in any 2 man combo, 100.8, even better.

Unfortunately that 5's offense has been no better than that. But 100 minutes is hardly definite, I would try it anyway.
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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#83 » by Hellcrooner » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:44 pm

Tay Prince is going to get Bought out.
Bulls should be all over this.
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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#84 » by Hellcrooner » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:44 pm

Tay Prince is going to get Bought out.
Bulls should be all over this.
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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#85 » by Professor Frink » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:50 pm

Hellcrooner wrote:Tay Prince is going to get Bought out.
Bulls should be all over this.


Prince would be a good pick up. He's always been a solid defender and he's still knocking down 3's at a 45% clip. I'd be all over that.
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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#86 » by Mech Engineer » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:24 pm

Snell for defending athletic wings, Prince for his length and veteran savvy, McDermott for hopefully offense and fit in MDJ with them at the SF position.

I also think Snell will be a lot better by April and that Snell should be enough for emergency defense especially when you have a Prince, MDJ, Jimmy playing in front of you.

And, if lightening strikes with McDermott, the musical chair rotation at SF might work out based on match-ups.
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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#87 » by mountainflash » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:12 pm

Article in Vantage Sports discussing how good Snell has been on D lately ( since 12/30). On Ball defense .80 Pts allowed per shot is 8th best of all NBA shooting guards. 34.29% for FG% against is 4th best of all sg's. And is shooting 42.9% from 3PT range during that time period. It appears Tony is improving.
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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#88 » by Red Larrivee » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:14 pm

mountainflash wrote:Article in Vantage Sports discussing how good Snell has been on D lately ( since 12/30). On Ball defense .80 Pts allowed per shot is 8th best of all NBA shooting guards. 34.29% for FG% against is 4th best of all sg's. And is shooting 42.9% from 3PT range during that time period. It appears Tony is improving.

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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#89 » by unknownnewbie » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:43 pm

tomacorandom wrote:
Rerisen wrote:
tomacorandom wrote:Based in?


Defensive Efficiency on floor.

Can you show the source?
It seems strange since the best defensive lineup according to Defensive Rating involves Pau Gasol - Nikola Mirotic
http://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612741 ... /advanced/

It gives up 76 points per 100 possesion



well that 5-man unit (Butler-Dunleavy-Gasol-Hinrich-Mirotic) have only played 47 minutes together. Not a huge sample.

Of the 5-man units that have played 50+ minutes together, the best defensive unit is Butler-Gasol-Gibson-Hinrich-Rose (93.5), followed by Butler-Gasol-Hinrich-Noah-Rose (99.5).

Butler & Hinrich are part of all of the best defensive units (minimum 45 minutes on court as unit). That's not a surprise. It's a little surprising that Gasol is in more of these best defensive units than is Gibson or Noah. But that may be at least in part due to more playing time?
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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#90 » by musiqsoulchild » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:15 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
mountainflash wrote:Article in Vantage Sports discussing how good Snell has been on D lately ( since 12/30). On Ball defense .80 Pts allowed per shot is 8th best of all NBA shooting guards. 34.29% for FG% against is 4th best of all sg's. And is shooting 42.9% from 3PT range during that time period. It appears Tony is improving.

Darkness...rising?


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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#91 » by mountainflash » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:22 pm

Lol! Love the gif but it doesn't have Tony' dark " I will eat your soul" eyes.
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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#92 » by johnnyvann840 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:23 am

Red Larrivee wrote:
mountainflash wrote:Article in Vantage Sports discussing how good Snell has been on D lately ( since 12/30). On Ball defense .80 Pts allowed per shot is 8th best of all NBA shooting guards. 34.29% for FG% against is 4th best of all sg's. And is shooting 42.9% from 3PT range during that time period. It appears Tony is improving.

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Re: Is our defense broken? 

Post#93 » by Stratmaster » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:56 am

unknownnewbie wrote:
tomacorandom wrote:
Rerisen wrote:
Defensive Efficiency on floor.

Can you show the source?
It seems strange since the best defensive lineup according to Defensive Rating involves Pau Gasol - Nikola Mirotic
http://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612741 ... /advanced/

It gives up 76 points per 100 possesion



well that 5-man unit (Butler-Dunleavy-Gasol-Hinrich-Mirotic) have only played 47 minutes together. Not a huge sample.

Of the 5-man units that have played 50+ minutes together, the best defensive unit is Butler-Gasol-Gibson-Hinrich-Rose (93.5), followed by Butler-Gasol-Hinrich-Noah-Rose (99.5).

Butler & Hinrich are part of all of the best defensive units (minimum 45 minutes on court as unit). That's not a surprise. It's a little surprising that Gasol is in more of these best defensive units than is Gibson or Noah. But that may be at least in part due to more playing time?


Yeah. Too bad that Hinrich guy can't play defense anymore :crazy:

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