Lopez for Reggie Jackson falls apart; Nets acquire Thad Young for KG (UPDATE: Page 58)

[Keith Van Horn]

I have no problem with anyone who is down on Brook Lopez. But I'm just going to say it. This trade is little more than a salary dump.

It's not just that Lance Stephenson is a bad guy its that Lance Stephenson is not a good basketball player!

This guy was in an ideal situation last year. Played well in the role that was asked of him. I can't believe how many people are talking about what they think he is from Indiana rather than noticing what he was in half a season in Charlotte where they want to give him away at all costs.

I just want to know for all those of you excited about this guy what is your over/under amount of games before you treat him like the next Travis Outlaw?

It's amazing to me how many of you are content to covet other people's trash on the tantalizing possibility for what they could be but so easy to dismiss any up side of your own players when they don't live up to your expectations. The shiny unwrapped presents under the tree are always so exciting until you open them up and they turn out to be a crappy pair of socks.

have you been watching any Nets games this season? Our team is absolute trash as it stands. We need a guy like Lance. I don't think anyone is expecting him to come in here and light the world on fire, but his enthusiasm is greatly needed to revive this corpse of a team.

[Keith Van Horn]

If Lance gets traded to this team he's probably still going to be meh...I just hope Brook goes to OKC so I can root for a good team to win the chip.

Agreed. The disdain some Nets "fans" have for Brook is annoying. You'd think he was the biggest bust in the history of the team when he's been our best draft pick in 15 years.

I agree with you guys. Look it's understandable that people are frustrated with injuries and the rebounding and perceived lack of hustle. But the reactions by so many have been disproportionate to the reality.

And honestly Lionel Hollins hasn't helped the situation.

How can you not be frustrated in his injuries? And perceived lack of hustle? Look at his rebounding, the stat of hustling big men. And what about that play where he jogged for the loose ball in the Dallas game and gave up those points?

I thanks Lopez for his time here and wish him the best, but he is not what we need going forward.

Lance is not the answer by himself, but it gives this team new options and a new identity... something we desperately need.

I do think we should get a pick back in return in this trade too though.

[therealbig3]

I agree that I would MUCH rather have Afflalo than Lance if that's a possibility. Afflalo is MUCH better than Lance.

Doubt that Denver gives him up though.

But either way, even if it's just for Lance, I still make this deal. Lopez has been ineffective for us, we desperately need an NBA-caliber SG, and it saves us salary moving forward.

[Keith Van Horn]

Here's the other thing, if we're moving Jack, who are we bringing back as PG to help give us minutes behind Williams?

No way Reggie Jackson, and who are the back ups on Charlotte?

Also maybe signed a recently waived guy, like Wolters or Farmar? Damn I really hope Williams comes back soon fully healthy lol. I've been a supporter of him over the years here, recently started bashing him, but good god do we need him back.

[therealbig3]

I don't hate Lopez, I just don't think he's a very effective player to be honest. Even when he puts up pretty numbers. I'm never going to "hate" a guy on my team...I can be annoyed and frustrated by him though, and that's what I've been with Lopez for a while now, and I've felt for a long time that his time here has run its course, and that long-term, his salary needs to be moved regardless. I feel the same way about Deron. But Lopez is more tradable than Deron, so he's the one we're actively trying to move right now.

And if we're able to move Lopez and shed salary, the trade is an undeniable win. We suck with him, we most likely suck without him (but who knows, we played better without him last year too), but we save money regardless, and that's honestly the most important thing for us at this point (other than making the playoffs, which we could still easily do without him).

[Keith Van Horn]

I don't hate Lopez, I just don't think he's a very effective player to be honest. Even when he puts up pretty numbers. I'm never going to "hate" a guy on my team...I can be annoyed and frustrated by him though, and that's what I've been with Lopez for a while now, and I've felt for a long time that his time here has run its course, and that long-term, his salary needs to be moved regardless. I feel the same way about Deron. But Lopez is more tradable than Deron, so he's the one we're actively trying to move right now.

And if we're able to move Lopez and shed salary, the trade is an undeniable win. We suck with him, we most likely suck without him (but who knows, we played better without him last year too), but we save money regardless, and that's honestly the most important thing for us at this point (other than making the playoffs, which we could still easily do without him).

Lopez is also a guy that can excel if given the right situation.

If he goes to OKC where he doesn't have to be the #1-2 option, like he has been here for the most of his tenure, then I can see him letting loose and being more consistent. It's also about pairing in this game. Being paired with Ibaka will tremendously cover up his defensive shortcomings.

I think it's a good situation for all teams involved if this happens. And it will help all teams involved instantly.

Like I said I wish Brook the best and thank him for his time here. But he doesn't fit the mold of what we're doing moving forward.


This team lack identity, our coach even said it. We are soft and rely on jumpshots. Lance will (hopefully) address those deficiencies. I do think Lance will respond positively to being traded here too.

[Paradise]

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[Born_Ready]

Anyone know why this deal hasn't gone through yet?

I dislike Brooke a great deal. I'm known to bash him any chance I get. However, being a Nets/Thunder fan, I think Brooke would really benefit from playing with players like Russ and KD. Also, Russ and KD would benefit from having a scoring big man for once. Which they haven't truly had since their inception. I think Brooke could fit in well for OKC. The only problem I have with the Thunder is Scott Brooks as the head coach. I do believe Brooke can do well with 2 superstars around him in OKC, despite the inadequacies of Scott Brooks coaching method.

I would also like to add, OKC would probably have to throw in Perkins to make the deal work financially. I bash him a lot as well. Not as much as I do Brooke Lopez though. However, as of late, Perkins has been playing decent defense for OKC. I like to think of him as a fake tough guy, but if he could be involved in the package, I think he could do some things defensively that are beneficial for the Nets, while returning to the eastern conference.

I think whatever happens, they need to get this deal done before the day is over. The longer it prolongs, greater are the chances a team pulls out and goes a different direction. I also wouldn't be to upset if they took a flier on Wolters or Farmar until Deron Williams is healthy again. Farmar might be a better option than Darius Morris at this point and would be a decent backup option going forward.

[NyCeEvO]

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Was gonna post this but I'm not at a computer.

Hopefully the Nets are pushing for PJ3 and/or Lamb.

We take Perk off their hands and they get Lopez as a 3rd/4th option on the team?

Your #1 options should have as few major flaws as possible but it's completely expected for your 3rd and 4th option to just be extremely skilled at one or two things.

Lopez post scoring would present OKC with a threat they've never had. If healthy, his presence on OKC could really allow that team to roll.

My biggest problem with Lopez was that he didn't have the impact of #1 option that can really lead the team to the playoffs, but we paid him and treated him like he was.

(And I guess that goes back to falling on Deron's shoulders because if D- Will would've lived up to his potential, there would have been less need to be as critical of Lopez as I have been over the years.)

Even though we're getting cap space, we're taking away a big problem for CHA and OKC is getting a major upgrade over Perk. We're losing Jack and CHA gets a non problem player in Lamb.

As usual, King should be asking and demanding more!

He's about to let OKC activate beast mode in the WC.

[MrDollarBills]

If we can get Jones I'd be thrilled

[Lamak]

I'm okay with this trade, although Stephenson seems to be a headcase, the guy can play and has heart. He's also a triple double threat. It just might be time to give Lopez a change of scenery, he's a been a good soldier.

If Jack goes too, who plays point until Deron gets back?

[JoseRizal]

Or at least a 1st round pick...

[Keith Van Horn]

So what's the basis for this trade again?

BKN gets Lance, Perkins, +??

CHA gets Lamb, Gerret, Jack (thought he couldn't be combined in a trade?)

OKC gets Lopez


what else is rumored to be coming back to BKN? Any picks involved? Even if it's from the THunder and a late first round pick, I would still take it!

[MrDollarBills]

We need a PG to come back in the deal.

Something tells me that something is going to go horribly wrong here.

[Keith Van Horn]

We need a PG to come back in the deal.

Something tells me that something is going to go horribly wrong here.

If King says let us take Jackson and either Jack or whoever on CHA goes to OKC to replace him, that way OKC doesn't have to worry about extension talks at the end of the season and they at least have a decent backup for westbrook...... LOL I'll stop there

[PMFJB]

Are you guys happy with the deal as constructed? Seems like a salary dump to me. Which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for you guys.

[Antti22]

Calling it right now:

OKC gets:
Brook Lopez

Charlotte gets:
Jack
Lamb

Nets get:
Reggie Jackson
Lance Stephenson
Kendrick Perkins expiring deal.

Money works on this deal nearly perfectly and we would fill the need on backup exciting PG with Reggie Jackson ( when Jack is gone, we need a PG), who might even be able to take Derons job if he gets dealt and Jackson has expressed the desire to be traded.
Why for the OKC:
Jackson wants out and they need a center and want Brook. They get him.

Why for Charlotte:
They want to get rid of Stephenson, get back possibly exciting young player in Lamb and a decent backup to Kemba in Jack

Why for the Nets:
We save some money ( seems to be the theme of these trades…) and get back and exciting prospect in Reggie Jackson who is young and also a high risk, high reward player in Lance, who is still young aswell. Filling the need at SG and PG.

Seems perfect to me.

[PMFJB]

Deal is dead per observer

[Antti22]

OKC just has to give up something more than Lamb and Perkins. They cant fleece the eastern conference teams TWICE a month ( first being the Waiters trade).

[Keith Van Horn]

Are you guys happy with the deal as constructed? Seems like a salary dump to me. Which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for you guys.

There are a lot of people that want to bring Lance here and see Lopez out to try to change the tempo and style of this team, so yeah I think a lot are happy. The concern is that if we give up Jack, who is going to be the back up PG for this team.