Lopez for Reggie Jackson falls apart; Nets acquire Thad Young for KG (UPDATE: Page 58)

[Paradise]

I don't want Brook playing at all until he's traded. Don't run the risk of an injury or him lowering his trade value.

[kerry kittles]

This is one of the most frustrating moments I've had as a fan.

We're going no where, we only have 1 player on this roster that should be here past 2016.

We take our long tenured player, drag him through mud like you alluded to nyce yet expect him to buy into team concepts while he's here. To give max effort defensively, run down the lose ball, make the extra pass; when the team doesn't want him.

No one wants Brook and it's not going to change by standing pat.

[DarkXaero]

If Nets FO think that Lance isnt worth it, I support their decision. I have no problem with Nets FO not liking the supposed offers we have heard. Because they are all basically crap. I would be interested in what Denver has to offer.

And who says these teams will even be interested in the future or even have a reason to make an offer? It's one thing to wait it out during the week but basically calling it off is just inexcusable.

As long as Brook stays healthy, there will always be teams interested. That's the key thing though, his health. If his health wasn't in question, we'd be getting a great return instead of the scraps. I also think that FOs around the league see Billy King as an idiot who can be lowballed (and they're right to think that), which is why teams aren't giving up anything of real value.

However, with Lance, the attitude/maturity issues are very real and a major concern. A lot of you here want to sweep these facts under the rug, but that doesn't make them any less true. There's a reason why there is barely any market for Lance out there, and teams want Charlotte to throw in an extra asset for taking on Lance. There are behind the scenes stories that NBA FOs are aware of that aren't public knowledge to us. IMO, that's why teams are staying away from Lance, in addition to what we already know.

[DarkXaero]

I can't wait till new ownership comes in and cleans house. This is so unbelievably frustrating.
We've lost 7 straight games, we suck, change is needed, but we're standing pat.
What happens if Brook gets injured his little value goes to no value.

Now how do you expect him to play, to his raise, his value with the ax hanging over his neck ready to drop and ship him out of town?

The pieces don't fit, offers aren't going to improve. Take Lance, take Lamb and cap space, but standing pat with these mess of a roster makes no sense. Change is needed now

Maybe Brook wants out? Maybe he'll kill it, just so he gets out of town lol. Idk.

There's no way Brook wants out. He has zero problems playing for the Nets.

It's the Nets who are ambivalent about whether they want him.

I don't know about that anymore, I'm sure Brook hasn't enjoyed his time under Hollins, and Hollins clearly doesn't like Brook.

[DunkingDude]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/236280/Nets-Decide-To-Keep-Brook-Lopez-For-Now

[NyCeEvO]

So apparently the Nets want to get Perk just to flip him for Thad Young. if Billy King actually pull this deal off and gets Thad Young/ Lamb/ Jones for Brook Lopez does it redeem him in your eyes at all?

IF that's the deal King would get, it's a steal and it would mean redeem him a good bit. But because Billy is at the helm, we're not going to make out like that.

I'll never live down the Wallace trade, the Wallace contract, and the pick swaps from the JJ deal.

[Paradise]

If Nets FO think that Lance isnt worth it, I support their decision. I have no problem with Nets FO not liking the supposed offers we have heard. Because they are all basically crap. I would be interested in what Denver has to offer.

And who says these teams will even be interested in the future or even have a reason to make an offer? It's one thing to wait it out during the week but basically calling it off is just inexcusable.

As long as Brook stays healthy, there will always be teams interested. That's the key thing though, his health. If his health wasn't in question, we'd be getting a great return instead of the scraps. I also think that FOs around the league see Billy King as an idiot who can be lowballed (and they're right to think that), which is why teams aren't giving up anything of real value.

However, with Lance, the attitude/maturity issues are very real and a major concern. A lot of you here want to sweep these facts under the rug, but that doesn't make them any less true. There's a reason why there is barely any market for Lance out there, and teams want Charlotte to throw in an extra asset for taking on Lance. There are behind the scenes stories that NBA FOs are aware of that aren't public knowledge to us. IMO, that's why teams are staying away from Lance, in addition to what we already know.

Let's forget the Lance deal. The latest offer was Lamb + Young + fillers. How is that a bad offer? You aren't getting anything any better than that.

This is the same sh*t he did with Kirilenko. He shopped him around to Cleveland and LAC then pulled him to "stand pat" and had the nerve to let Kirilenko practice with the team until we ended up dumping him to Philly and we ended up overpaying to get rid of him. This is an alarming sign.

Just because OKC, Charlotte, Denver, Miami, LA and Houston are interested doesn't mean we should simply act like these teams are desperate to have him. They aren't.

[DarkXaero]

As long as Brook stays healthy, there will always be teams interested. That's the key thing though, his health. If his health wasn't in question, we'd be getting a great return instead of the scraps. I also think that FOs around the league see Billy King as an idiot who can be lowballed (and they're right to think that), which is why teams aren't giving up anything of real value.

However, with Lance, the attitude/maturity issues are very real and a major concern. A lot of you here want to sweep these facts under the rug, but that doesn't make them any less true. There's a reason why there is barely any market for Lance out there, and teams want Charlotte to throw in an extra asset for taking on Lance. There are behind the scenes stories that NBA FOs are aware of that aren't public knowledge to us. IMO, that's why teams are staying away from Lance, in addition to what we already know.

Let's forget the Lance deal. The latest offer was Lamb + Young + fillers. How is that a bad offer? You aren't getting anything any better than that.

This is the same sh*t he did with Kirilenko. He shopped him around to Cleveland and LAC then pulled him to "stand pat" and had the nerve to let Kirilenko practice with the team until we ended up dumping him to Philly and we ended up overpaying to get rid of him. This is an alarming sign.

Just because OKC, Charlotte, Denver, Miami, LA and Houston are interested doesn't mean we should simply act like these teams are desperate to have him. They aren't.

Except there is no confirmation that Nets have a deal with the Timberwolves for Thad Young. Nets are "TRYING" to get Thad Young for Perkins. You're jumping to conclusions.

[MrDollarBills]

No one cares about getting Lance but I would have dealt with OKC. As long as we got an expiring, Lamb, and possibly Jones it would have been a steal and would have made up for losing a **** of draft picks

anyone who would think we're getting more than that for Lopez is overvaluing the **** out of Lopez.

This guy could go out there and break is **** ing foot tonight and then what?

[Prokorov]

And looks like we're not pulling any triggers on the deals...

I went from crazy excited that after this b2b we'd have a fresh team to maybe get our hopes back...

But, nah, looks like we're content with sucking


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im beyond pissed they pulled the plug on lance. its such a terrible decision...

the guy is from brooklyn, would at the very least provide a short term spark, give the fans someone to be interested or excited about, and is super low risk with his contract structure.

perkins/lamb is obviously a move we have to do if we can dump lopez, but lance is where we should focus

[Paradise]

As long as Brook stays healthy, there will always be teams interested. That's the key thing though, his health. If his health wasn't in question, we'd be getting a great return instead of the scraps. I also think that FOs around the league see Billy King as an idiot who can be lowballed (and they're right to think that), which is why teams aren't giving up anything of real value.

However, with Lance, the attitude/maturity issues are very real and a major concern. A lot of you here want to sweep these facts under the rug, but that doesn't make them any less true. There's a reason why there is barely any market for Lance out there, and teams want Charlotte to throw in an extra asset for taking on Lance. There are behind the scenes stories that NBA FOs are aware of that aren't public knowledge to us. IMO, that's why teams are staying away from Lance, in addition to what we already know.

Let's forget the Lance deal. The latest offer was Lamb + Young + fillers. How is that a bad offer? You aren't getting anything any better than that.

This is the same sh*t he did with Kirilenko. He shopped him around to Cleveland and LAC then pulled him to "stand pat" and had the nerve to let Kirilenko practice with the team until we ended up dumping him to Philly and we ended up overpaying to get rid of him. This is an alarming sign.

Just because OKC, Charlotte, Denver, Miami, LA and Houston are interested doesn't mean we should simply act like these teams are desperate to have him. They aren't.

Except there is no confirmation that Nets have a deal with the Timberwolves for Thad Young. Nets are "TRYING" to get Thad Young for Perkins. You're jumping to conclusions.

Even If I am jumping to conclusions here, I'm pretty sure we could simply pry another asset in Perry Jones or McGary from OKC and finish out the deal. Lamb is a better prospect than Bogdanovic right now.

[MrDollarBills]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/236280/Nets-Decide-To-Keep-Brook-Lopez-For-Now

You're preaching to the choir.


**** Billy King!!!!

[Prokorov]

If Nets FO think that Lance isnt worth it, I support their decision. I have no problem with Nets FO not liking the supposed offers we have heard. Because they are all basically crap. I would be interested in what Denver has to offer.

thats fine, but holding on to a player having his worst season of his career, on a bad contract, who doesnt fit the coach is worse then making a trade were you dont get great value.

[CalamityX12]

I don't want Brook playing at all until he's traded. Don't run the risk of an injury or him lowering his trade value.

Absolutely...

besides, as a dick comment, it wouldn't affect the outcome of the game whether he plays or not....

[MrDollarBills]

If Nets FO think that Lance isnt worth it, I support their decision. I have no problem with Nets FO not liking the supposed offers we have heard. Because they are all basically crap. I would be interested in what Denver has to offer.

thats fine, but holding on to a player having his worst season of his career, on a bad contract, who doesnt fit the coach is worse then making a trade were you dont get great value.

getting Lamb and possibly Jones in return for Lopez would have made up for the blown picks in the Celtics deal and the pick swap we're going to get **** ed in the ass with come draft time. Perkins' expiring would have been excellent in regards to getting bad salary off of our books.

Yet, here we are.

and you wanna know the irony? I just got an email asking me to purchase 2015-2016 season tickets. I should hit reply and tell them to go suck my **** ing dick

[Prokorov]

However, with Lance, the attitude/maturity issues are very real and a major concern. A lot of you here want to sweep these facts under the rug, but that doesn't make them any less true. There's a reason why there is barely any market for Lance out there, and teams want Charlotte to throw in an extra asset for taking on Lance. There are behind the scenes stories that NBA FOs are aware of that aren't public knowledge to us. IMO, that's why teams are staying away from Lance, in addition to what we already know.

I havent seen anyone ignore his attitude issues.... my thing is this, worst case you just send him home. he is owed 1 year 9 million. we'd be paying brook 1/16 if we didnt make the trade. worst case we save 7 million... and that ignores anyone else we'd get in a lance deal (marvin?).

i think conservatively you get a couple good months from lance trying to stick it in charlottes face and playing in front of his home team. then he becomes a problem if we lose in the playoffs or in the offseason... at which point he is a 9 million expiring that can probably be moved or just sent away from the team.

I dont see this mega downside to lance. we dont have chemistry for him to disrupt here.

[CalamityX12]

So apparently the Nets want to get Perk just to flip him for Thad Young. if Billy King actually pull this deal off and gets Thad Young/ Lamb/ Jones for Brook Lopez does it redeem him in your eyes at all?

IF that's the deal King would get, it's a steal and it would mean redeem him a good bit. But because Billy is at the helm, we're not going to make out like that.

I'll never live down the Wallace trade, the Wallace contract, and the pick swaps from the JJ deal.

Honestly there's really nothing King can do to redeem himself in my eyes....

The errors, misjudgement, blatant fail/tard moments he's had and has acted in a vital position in a sport franchise.... the only thing he's done exceptionally well is retaining his employment year after year... its shocking and overwhelming...

[CalamityX12]

If Nets FO think that Lance isnt worth it, I support their decision. I have no problem with Nets FO not liking the supposed offers we have heard. Because they are all basically crap. I would be interested in what Denver has to offer.

thats fine, but holding on to a player having his worst season of his career, on a bad contract, who doesnt fit the coach is worse then making a trade were you dont get great value.

getting Lamb and possibly Jones in return for Lopez would have made up for the blown picks in the Celtics deal and the pick swap we're going to get **** ed in the ass with come draft time. Perkins' expiring would have been excellent in regards to getting bad salary off of our books.

Yet, here we are.

and you wanna know the irony? I just got an email asking me to purchase 2015-2016 season tickets. I should hit reply and tell them to go suck my **** ing dick

LOL you should tell them, its on hold....

[kerry kittles]

It wasn't terrible value:
Perkins expiring gets us under the tax: avoid the repeater, can use the full MLE, can do sign and trades.

Lamb gives us a guy to look at at shooting guard. He can't be any worse than Karasev and Bogdanovic and just 22, 3 years younger than Bogdanovic.

King **** up again

[Prokorov]

So apparently the Nets want to get Perk just to flip him for Thad Young. if Billy King actually pull this deal off and gets Thad Young/ Lamb/ Jones for Brook Lopez does it redeem him in your eyes at all?

IF that's the deal King would get, it's a steal and it would mean redeem him a good bit. But because Billy is at the helm, we're not going to make out like that.

I'll never live down the Wallace trade, the Wallace contract, and the pick swaps from the JJ deal.

agreed... unless he can trade markel brown for durant there is no redeeming the wallace deal...

that said, turning lopez into thad/lamb/jones would be an enormous win for king and the nets. 3 players that fit our needs to a 2, 2 of them very young. it would keep us playoff relative and get us 2 young pieces to pair with plumlee going forward. would help offset a lack of picks