Let's trade Channing Frye

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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#21 » by red96 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:10 pm

Would you guys be opposed of moving Frye straight up for an expiring contract if it only costs the Magic's 2015 2nd rounder?
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Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#22 » by Gomagic44 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:13 pm

I wouldn't be against it one bit.


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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#23 » by OrlMagic05 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:16 pm

LApwnd wrote:
JameerNelsonFan wrote:As an Orlando fan the Frye signing hasn't worked out and its becoming increasing evident that we need more shot blocking.
Im interested to see if there was any market for Frye as he was a valuable starter for the suns last year.
Would Frye net ed Davis? John Henson? Even biyombo?


give us back our 17' pick and you can have Hill for Frye


No Thanks, hopefully we will get another lottery pick.
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#24 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:27 pm

red96 wrote:Would you guys be opposed of moving Frye straight up for an expiring contract if it only costs the Magic's 2015 2nd rounder?


But why would Philly give up that 2nd? :D
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#25 » by Knosh » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:50 pm

I think Frye could help in Dallas. Not sure how to make salaries and roster spots work though. Does Orlando have guys they would be willing to cut or vet min contracts they would be willing to include? The Mavs basically have to send three guys. Maybe Philly needs to help...

Something like Felton/Charlie V/Greg Smith works salary wise. Add in cash and/or 2nds if needed...

Charlie V could replace Frye's spacing to some extend. Obviously it's a downgrade, but he has actually been doing alright in Dallas since he got minutes. He is shooting 39% on 3s.
And Smith can help out at center a bit...But mostly it would be about saving money for Orlando.
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#26 » by j-ragg » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:11 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
JameerNelsonFan wrote:As an Orlando fan the Frye signing hasn't worked out and its becoming increasing evident that we need more shot blocking.
Im interested to see if there was any market for Frye as he was a valuable starter for the suns last year.
Would Frye net ed Davis? John Henson? Even biyombo?



Wait what? John Henson? Biyombo :lol:

With all that said I am not denying the fact that I would be mad if we traded him but not for the likes of Biyombo where we have an exact similar player in Dedmon that's significantly cheaper and still has 2 yrs to his deal or John Henson where he does block a lot of shots but he's not a great defender.

But back to the immediate subject I would do the following trade with Toronto...and that's probably an over pay.

Patterson
Fields

for

Frye
Harkless
Orl 2nd

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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#27 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:15 pm

j-ragg wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
JameerNelsonFan wrote:As an Orlando fan the Frye signing hasn't worked out and its becoming increasing evident that we need more shot blocking.
Im interested to see if there was any market for Frye as he was a valuable starter for the suns last year.
Would Frye net ed Davis? John Henson? Even biyombo?



Wait what? John Henson? Biyombo :lol:

With all that said I am not denying the fact that I would be mad if we traded him but not for the likes of Biyombo where we have an exact similar player in Dedmon that's significantly cheaper and still has 2 yrs to his deal or John Henson where he does block a lot of shots but he's not a great defender.

But back to the immediate subject I would do the following trade with Toronto...and that's probably an over pay.

Patterson
Fields

for

Frye
Harkless
Orl 2nd

Holy delusion... if you're going to stray away from the Magic board take the blinders off first, friend.


Please elaborate I would like to hear your reasoning on the delusion.
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#28 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:24 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
j-ragg wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:

Wait what? John Henson? Biyombo :lol:

With all that said I am not denying the fact that I would be mad if we traded him but not for the likes of Biyombo where we have an exact similar player in Dedmon that's significantly cheaper and still has 2 yrs to his deal or John Henson where he does block a lot of shots but he's not a great defender.

But back to the immediate subject I would do the following trade with Toronto...and that's probably an over pay.

Patterson
Fields

for

Frye
Harkless
Orl 2nd

Holy delusion... if you're going to stray away from the Magic board take the blinders off first, friend.


Please elaborate I would like to hear your reasoning on the delusion.


Someone like Henson is young, cheap, and still has potential. Orlando would absolutely have to add to get from Frye to Henson. So, if Orlando could get that they should absolutely run with it, not scoff at it.
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#29 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:47 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
j-ragg wrote:Holy delusion... if you're going to stray away from the Magic board take the blinders off first, friend.


Please elaborate I would like to hear your reasoning on the delusion.


Someone like Henson is young, cheap, and still has potential. Orlando would absolutely have to add to get from Frye to Henson. So, if Orlando could get that they should absolutely run with it, not scoff at it.


I was certainly not questioning Henson's value but his fit on this team and what he brings as a player is simply not worth Frye in my eyes.

This board is quick to right Frye off when technically Frye is actually currently shooting better than he did last year in Phoenix. 40% compared to 37% and you kinda have to think of it like this, in Phoenix Frye had 2 max players passing out to him in Bledsoe & Dragic that drew a lot of attention when they drove in the lane and forced the defense to collapse and leave Frye open ALL the time. Unfortunately we do not have that kind of presence yet in our backcourt leaving Frye guarded and shooting a lot more contestant shots than he did last yr. I like Frye and believe what he brings and offers is an important piece for a "contending team".

People arguing about his contract and his defense when he NEVER played defense and he's 31yr old and is not all of a sudden going to learn to be defensive threat. Henny knew exactly what he was getting when we signed him so expecting any more than him hitting the 3 at a high percentage and being a good mentor to the youngins will be asking too much. He's currently top 3 in percentage for 3's in the league for his position and takes double the shots the guys above him take....he's basically doing EXACTLY what he got paid to do nothing more nothing less.

Is he worth the contract? Probably not but a stretch 4 is a very hot commodity in the league and a stretch 4 that can play spot minutes at Center is even rarer.

I believe Frye is worth more to a contending team than a rebuilding team.
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#30 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:06 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
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Please elaborate I would like to hear your reasoning on the delusion.


Someone like Henson is young, cheap, and still has potential. Orlando would absolutely have to add to get from Frye to Henson. So, if Orlando could get that they should absolutely run with it, not scoff at it.


I was certainly not questioning Henson's value but his fit on this team and what he brings as a player is simply not worth Frye in my eyes.

This board is quick to right Frye off when technically Frye is actually currently shooting better than he did last year in Phoenix. 40% compared to 37% and you kinda have to think of it like this, in Phoenix Frye had 2 max players passing out to him in Bledsoe & Dragic that drew a lot of attention when they drove in the lane and forced the defense to collapse and leave Frye open ALL the time. Unfortunately we do not have that kind of presence yet in our backcourt leaving Frye guarded and shooting a lot more contestant shots than he did last yr. I like Frye and believe what he brings and offers is an important piece for a "contending team".

People arguing about his contract and his defense when he NEVER played defense and he's 31yr old and is not all of a sudden going to learn to be defensive threat. Henny knew exactly what he was getting when we signed him so expecting any more than him hitting the 3 at a high percentage and being a good mentor to the youngins will be asking too much. He's currently top 3 in percentage for 3's in the league for his position and takes double the shots the guys above him take....he's basically doing EXACTLY what he got paid to do nothing more nothing less.

Is he worth the contract? Probably not but a stretch 4 is a very hot commodity in the league and a stretch 4 that can play spot minutes at Center is even rarer.

I believe Frye is worth more to a contending team than a rebuilding team.


Most on here questioned the contract the second it was signed. That he isn't worth his contract would suggest that he doesn't have the value of a guy that is, like Henson.

And while I agree that Frye is more valuable on a contender than a rebuilding team, it is worth remembering that Orlando outbid all those contenders.
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#31 » by sfballa13 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:16 pm

What about:

Jonas Jerebko, Cartier Martin, Luigi Datome
+ Detroit's 1st round pick (top 7 protected both in 2015 and 2016, unprotected in 2017)

for

Tobias Harris, Frye

Orlando gets straight cap relief saving 3M this year and 10M next year for a savings of 13M total and they get a draft pick which could end up in the lottery at 8-10 this year or next)

Detroit trades a pick and takes on salary to get their SF of the future. He is restricted but they can match any deal he is offered. Frye fits in SVG's plans as he is a good 3PT shooter

Pistons try to go for the playoffs with:
Jennings / Augustin
KCP / Meeks
Harris / Singler - Butler
Monroe / Frye - Tolliver
Drummond / Anthony
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#32 » by j-ragg » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:22 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
j-ragg wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:

Wait what? John Henson? Biyombo :lol:

With all that said I am not denying the fact that I would be mad if we traded him but not for the likes of Biyombo where we have an exact similar player in Dedmon that's significantly cheaper and still has 2 yrs to his deal or John Henson where he does block a lot of shots but he's not a great defender.

But back to the immediate subject I would do the following trade with Toronto...and that's probably an over pay.

Patterson
Fields

for

Frye
Harkless
Orl 2nd

Holy delusion... if you're going to stray away from the Magic board take the blinders off first, friend.


Please elaborate I would like to hear your reasoning on the delusion.

Channing Frye is 10 years older than Biyombo and Henson. He's a much much worse defender, but obviously a capable shooter. Taking player's abilities out of the equation, he is owed 3/23+ after this year. Henson is owed 2.9 next year. Biyombo is owed 5.4 if he gets the QO next year. I think most every team would rather have Henson/Biyombo than Frye right now but even still for you to scoff at the offer is just hilarious.
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#33 » by youngthegiant » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:33 pm

Horrible signing for orlando. 4 years....wtf were they thinking......
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#34 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:44 pm

j-ragg wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
j-ragg wrote:Holy delusion... if you're going to stray away from the Magic board take the blinders off first, friend.


Please elaborate I would like to hear your reasoning on the delusion.

Channing Frye is 10 years older than Biyombo and Henson. He's a much much worse defender, but obviously a capable shooter. Taking player's abilities out of the equation, he is owed 3/23+ after this year. Henson is owed 2.9 next year. Biyombo is owed 5.4 if he gets the QO next year. I think most every team would rather have Henson/Biyombo than Frye right now but even still for you to scoff at the offer is just hilarious.


I simply disagree and as stated above he is worth more to a contender than a rebuilding team.

Other than the bottom feeding teams in the league please tell me what teams would rather have Henson/Biyombo than Frye right now?

Not many I checked. You know why? Because what Henson/Biyombo provides and brings to the table is NOT and probably will never be the difference to what it takes to be a contender.

Just last year Phoenix shocked the world in the progress they made in almost making the playoffs in a deep western conference. There are several articles (don't have the patience to look myself) that stated Frye was the key piece to there success.

Hilarious that I think we have a player in O Quinn that gets paid less than both Henson/Biyombo that is a much superior all around player as shown and as statistical stats prove?

Scoff the offer because I think we could essentially get more value for him from a contending team looking for that extra push and desperate for a floor spacer?

Money and age do NOT matter if that's what it takes to become a true contender in this league. They're NUMEROUS trades that prove my reasoning.
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#35 » by LApwnd » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:11 pm

OrlMagic05 wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
JameerNelsonFan wrote:As an Orlando fan the Frye signing hasn't worked out and its becoming increasing evident that we need more shot blocking.
Im interested to see if there was any market for Frye as he was a valuable starter for the suns last year.
Would Frye net ed Davis? John Henson? Even biyombo?


give us back our 17' pick and you can have Hill for Frye


No Thanks, hopefully we will get another lottery pick.


keep hoping, lots can happen in 2 yrs.
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#36 » by stinger14 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:36 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
j-ragg wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Please elaborate I would like to hear your reasoning on the delusion.

Channing Frye is 10 years older than Biyombo and Henson. He's a much much worse defender, but obviously a capable shooter. Taking player's abilities out of the equation, he is owed 3/23+ after this year. Henson is owed 2.9 next year. Biyombo is owed 5.4 if he gets the QO next year. I think most every team would rather have Henson/Biyombo than Frye right now but even still for you to scoff at the offer is just hilarious.


I simply disagree and as stated above he is worth more to a contender than a rebuilding team.

Other than the bottom feeding teams in the league please tell me what teams would rather have Henson/Biyombo than Frye right now?

Not many I checked. You know why? Because what Henson/Biyombo provides and brings to the table is NOT and probably will never be the difference to what it takes to be a contender.

Just last year Phoenix shocked the world in the progress they made in almost making the playoffs in a deep western conference. There are several articles (don't have the patience to look myself) that stated Frye was the key piece to there success.

Hilarious that I think we have a player in O Quinn that gets paid less than both Henson/Biyombo that is a much superior all around player as shown and as statistical stats prove?

Scoff the offer because I think we could essentially get more value for him from a contending team looking for that extra push and desperate for a floor spacer?

Money and age do NOT matter if that's what it takes to become a true contender in this league. They're NUMEROUS trades that prove my reasoning.


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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#37 » by OrlMagic05 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:28 pm

LApwnd wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
give us back our 17' pick and you can have Hill for Frye


No Thanks, hopefully we will get another lottery pick.


keep hoping, lots can happen in 2 yrs.


Yes, you are right. Kobe can retire...
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#38 » by LApwnd » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:41 pm

OrlMagic05 wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:
No Thanks, hopefully we will get another lottery pick.


keep hoping, lots can happen in 2 yrs.


Yes, you are right. Kobe can retire...


right, cause that's all that happens or you GM keeps making weird signings too so remains to be seen
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#39 » by OrlMagic05 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:53 am

LApwnd wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
keep hoping, lots can happen in 2 yrs.


Yes, you are right. Kobe can retire...


right, cause that's all that happens or you GM keeps making weird signings too so remains to be seen


How is that Steve Nash trade working for u? You owe the Suns a pick and owe the Magic a pick.... I'd take Channing frye's contract over those horrible deals your GM made lol

Do you honestly think the lakers have a brighter future than Orlando? Julius randle is your one young prospect, the Lakers are the new Knicks. You guys keep trading away your picks.
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Re: Let's trade Channing Frye 

Post#40 » by Mamba4Goat » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:58 am

Bud and something for Frye?
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