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Post#381 » by therealbig3 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:36 am

Paradise wrote:So, let me get this straight.

Building a deep team of quality hard working role players is not a good idea and chasing the likes of Love, Durant, Howard and Horford will result into a failure. So, what's the plan? It's either one or the other.


Um, I clearly said that going after the likes of Love, Durant, and Howard (how was Horford put in that class?) was the best way to go. I just don't think we'd ever convince a player like that to come here in 2016. And Howard in 2016 will be 30 years old and he's already past his prime and starting to rack up the injuries, he might not even be a franchise-caliber player at that point.

What I do think is that overpaying for lesser talent with max contracts (Al Horford is a good example here...he's a very good player, but I wouldn't pay 20 million a year for him) is the same way we got ourselves into this bind. Those end up being the toxic contracts that everyone wants to dump, because it gets us into that "not quite bad enough to tank, not quite good enough to contend" level, aka the treadmill. Or in a case like this year, it ends up getting us into that "bad enough to tank, but no draft picks" level, which is even worse.

In terms of building a deep team with a bunch of solid, but not great players, I'm all for that if we strike out on Durant and possibly Love. It's a great compensation plan. I'm just saying that it shouldn't be the first choice, because that's not going to lead to any more success than what we have now. It'll just be much more enjoyable to watch, and we won't be nearly as cap-strapped, assuming we don't overpay for those solid, but not great players.

Paradise wrote:He was let go because of his poor relationship with the front office on roster decisions. It had nothing to do with on-court performance. He developed a culture and a style that Memphis to this day was reluctant to change and we are on pace to finish with the best defensive efficiency since 2005. He IS the best coach we've had in years.


He's the best coach we've had in years, because we've had terrible coaches for years, not because Hollins is all that good. He's anti-analytics, his offense is a joke, and he preaches defense and toughness, but this whole "culture" thing is so overblown. When you have a good team, it's easy to build "culture". What happened to building that "culture" here? We're the same soft, passive, indifferent team we've always been.

Memphis is exactly the same now, if not better than they were with Hollins. And they have a much more enjoyable team to watch, with an offense that doesn't put you to sleep.

Paradise wrote:Phoenix, Toronto, Atlanta, Memphis were all mainly built through free agency and trades. So, It's a doable. Building a competitive team that is also financially responsible isn't hard as some on here try to make it seem. I just don't see alot of great GMs available to execute a proper vision.


They had draft picks and good players on cheap contracts! I don't understand why people keep overlooking how important that stuff is when it comes to team building. It's not just about how much money you have. Stuff like that is what I call "assets", and they're important for unloading bad contracts, putting together an appealing offer for a certain player that's worth it, or to have some young talent on a team that can slowly develop into something better. We're stuck in the situation we're in precisely because we can't do anything like that right now. The only legit asset we have is Plumlee, since he's a productive player that's still on his rookie contract...but he's been branded as pretty much untouchable, and for good reason. BECAUSE he's the only real asset we have. If we had a few guys like him (productive players on rookie deals, or just cheap deals in general), then we could have parted with one of them and Deron's contract would be Sacramento's problem right now.
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Post#382 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:35 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Wow, I just checked out the other site for the first time, and the thread on Prokhorov selling the team is pretty hilarious. The guy who runs the site is pretty full of ****, and pretty much resembles the attitude that I hate.

Reality: there is not a single team I wouldn't trade places with right now in terms of where the franchise stands and how they look moving forward. Even the Sixers or Knicks...I'd EASILY trade places with them. At least they're going to get a lottery pick for their trouble. And at least the Knicks have a star in place that can attract other star players. And at least they're going to have cap space soon. And the Sixers have a bunch of young talent that can either progress into something great or can fetch them high end talent (along with their cap space). We have neither of those things.

Someone there said it best: cap space without any foundation and no future is WORTHLESS. The real stars of the league that are worth pursuing are not trying to make as much money as possible, or be in the spotlight, or be in a flashy city, or get as many endorsements as possible...they're trying to team up with other stars and win championships. And pretty much every team in the league is going to have cap space when we do. Why in the hell would anyone choose us? The guys that are looking for a payday from a team foolish enough to give them one are going to be like who got max deals in 2010: Joe Johnson, Amare Stoudemire, Rudy Gay, and Carlos Boozer. That caliber of player. So we're going to tie up our cap space by massively overpaying for B-grade talent. Which means we'll be doing the same song and dance all over again. You need assets and young talent if you want to build a contender, that's just the way it works. You can't give me any successful NBA team that was able to build a contender purely through free agency, and without utilizing any draft picks or assets. Miami had young, talented players in Butler and Odom to help bring in Shaq, to pair up with another star player that they drafted (Wade). And that same star player that they kept from the draft was the only reason why they were able to bring in two other stars (LeBron and Bosh) to pair up with him and win more championships. Without that foundation, they wouldn't have won anything.

Also, I can't believe that anyone was actually trying to argue that Joe Dumars was a worse GM than Billy King. LOL. Joe Dumars put together a championship squad at one point, a team that was also able to have sustained success and make the conference finals or beyond in like 6 straight seasons. I'd take a championship season and 50 years of suck over whatever the hell we've gotten with Billy King. At least I'd have that championship to point to and reminisce on.


Well said...and yes, Bob Windrem is a liar, a spin artist, and a blowhard who is a mouthpiece for the Nets front office. He will say one thing that's completely ridiculous one moment and then change his tune the next once what he is saying is can no longer carry any weight. He called people morons for saying the team was being sold in order to do damage control for his masters in the Nets FO and then once credible sources started piling up he changed his story :lol:
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Post#383 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:39 pm

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Paradise wrote:I think it's a little unfair to keep bringing up the 2010 free agency situation. We were coming off a 12-70 season. What free agent is going to sign with a franchise that already was in relocation and coming off one of the worst seasons in sports history?

The initial plan was to build a culture and style of play under Jason Kidd and let Kidd do the free agent recruiting along with Proky representing the willingness to spend and Jay-Z pitching the endorsement opportunities.That all went out the window with Kidd's exit this summer.

Yeah, we aren't obviously favorites to sign a superstar in free agency with other teams making similar pitches but we have a far better chance than we ever did. We never had 50 million in cap space to spend in 2010.

Well, we don't have Jay-Z as close as we did before, we don't have Kidd at all, and we may not even have the same owner who's willing to spend to a fault by the time 2016 rolls around.

We also have to look at the position of other teams who will have cap space. Most star players don't change teams so the fact that we're 1) expecting them to do so 2) choose the Nets over other more compelling teams is a tall order, especially given how much turmoil and bad press we've been getting over the years.

I'm Schwartz isn't going to deal with us anymore. There will be no hometown discount from Lopez' (or his representatives now).

We're burning already existent bridges and failing to set up new ones. We're in deep trouble.

First off, I highly doubt Schwartz is going to hold a grudge against us. Especially if we change ownership and our entire front office. That has literally never happened before and I never saw Lopez re-signing here anyhow. His name was dragged through Dwightmare. This isn't anything new to his representatives.

And in terms of 2016, I've been advocating to go the Denver Nuggets/Atlanta Hawks model. You don't need a bunch of stars to build a good team.


We need to go the route of building a deep team imo with athleticism and shooting.

Hawks are tearing ass right now because they have solid players and a focus on moving the ball. It also helps to have guys like Horford and Milsap who play hard.
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Post#384 » by Paradise » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:46 pm

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Um, I clearly said that going after the likes of Love, Durant, and Howard (how was Horford put in that class?) was the best way to go. I just don't think we'd ever convince a player like that to come here in 2016. And Howard in 2016 will be 30 years old and he's already past his prime and starting to rack up the injuries, he might not even be a franchise-caliber player at that point.

Howard isn't a franchise caliber player anymore but he is the perfect fit next to a Kevin Love or Durant. Our best pitch is basically the ability for multiple stars to fit together and I don't necessarily believe we will land a true superstar either but there doesn't seem to be a Plan B in the mind of Nets fans. The general narrative seems to be superstar or the D-League roster for the next five seasons.

What I do think is that overpaying for lesser talent with max contracts (Al Horford is a good example here...he's a very good player, but I wouldn't pay 20 million a year for him) is the same way we got ourselves into this bind. Those end up being the toxic contracts that everyone wants to dump, because it gets us into that "not quite bad enough to tank, not quite good enough to contend" level, aka the treadmill. Or in a case like this year, it ends up getting us into that "bad enough to tank, but no draft picks" level, which is even worse.


Well, that's why Billy needs to go before that summer. Cap space is basically all we have to lean on until we control our draft picks. Spending wisely and being conservative is what should be preached.

In terms of building a deep team with a bunch of solid, but not great players, I'm all for that if we strike out on Durant and possibly Love. It's a great compensation plan. I'm just saying that it shouldn't be the first choice, because that's not going to lead to any more success than what we have now. It'll just be much more enjoyable to watch, and we won't be nearly as cap-strapped, assuming we don't overpay for those solid, but not great players.


I agree with that.

He's the best coach we've had in years, because we've had terrible coaches for years, not because Hollins is all that good. He's anti-analytics, his offense is a joke, and he preaches defense and toughness, but this whole "culture" thing is so overblown. When you have a good team, it's easy to build "culture". What happened to building that "culture" here? We're the same soft, passive, indifferent team we've always been.

Chicago has a culture, Indiana has a culture, Houston has a culture, Portland has a culture. It's far from overblown. Teams that do not have one are the teams like us and the Knicks that can have all the talent in the world but can still be an undisciplined organization on and off the floor.

Hollins inherited a roster full of misfits and headaches like Randolph, Mayo and turned them into productive impactful players. The Grizzlies got better every season until they reached elite status in the West. He's the reason they are where they are. Selling him short of that is beyond ridiculous.

He has pushed every button to get Deron, Lopez, Joe to play like stars and they still don't. This core is a joke and nobody can fix them. Kidd was hated on this board last season and now he has Brandon Knight being much more productive than Deron Williams and OJ Mayo with equal stats to Joe Johnson. Hollins is not a perfect coach but he damn sure isn't the problem there or the fact we downgraded in talent this past off-season.

Memphis is exactly the same now, if not better than they were with Hollins. And they have a much more enjoyable team to watch, with an offense that doesn't put you to sleep.


Conley shooting 43% from three and Lee shooting 44% from three has alot to do with that. The Grizzlies have also upgraded their offensive talent since 2013 but they still play at the same slow pace and still play halfcourt basketball.

They had draft picks and good players on cheap contracts! I don't understand why people keep overlooking how important that stuff is when it comes to team building. It's not just about how much money you have. Stuff like that is what I call "assets", and they're important for unloading bad contracts, putting together an appealing offer for a certain player that's worth it, or to have some young talent on a team that can slowly develop into something better. We're stuck in the situation we're in precisely because we can't do anything like that right now. The only legit asset we have is Plumlee, since he's a productive player that's still on his rookie contract...but he's been branded as pretty much untouchable, and for good reason. BECAUSE he's the only real asset we have. If we had a few guys like him (productive players on rookie deals, or just cheap deals in general), then we could have parted with one of them and Deron's contract would be Sacramento's problem right now.


I'm specifically talking about the belief that you cannot rebuild a team through free agency. We've never had a problem finding good players on cheap contracts. Our problem has always been retaining them with limited money due to our gigantic payroll.
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Post#385 » by Keith Van Horn » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:21 pm

you guys ready for a rollercoaster weekend of rumors and emotions??


Let's start today off with some speculation: what is the best outcome of the Lopez scenario from some of the chatter we've heard?

-Get CHA to give up a future first round pick in addition to Lance to help compensate for his issues? (maybe he has been strong arming CHA to give us a pick if we take Lance??)

-Take Perkins and keep him in a salary dump for next season, or flip him right away for Thad Young?

-Get Lamb instead of Lance?

-Involve both teams, or just with OKC?

-Go for a better deal elsewhere and pray Lopez ups his value and doesn't get injured?
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Post#386 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:41 pm

I'm expecting the Nets luck to run true to form and Lopez goes down with an injury tbh
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Post#387 » by Shook Jones » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:20 pm

I'm hoping Lopez goes to a team out west and goes deep into the playoffs. Love that kid even though he plays soft more times than not.

Again If Nets could flip lopez and Mirza into Thad,Lance,Jackson thats a major win and complete overhaul. The team might not win a damn thing but I'd enjoy watching them.

Hopefully they can flip Dwil for garbage at the deadline. He is the scourge of this franchise. Worst Max player ever.
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Post#388 » by GopherIt! » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:20 pm

Minny fan here. I think Flip moves Thad for either a prospect or a 1st. He's a good player as you probably already know. Put him on a decent squad and pair him w a solid pg and he will be flying high again.

The Thunder are still 3.5g out of the 8th seed. The pressure is on OKC big time. Good luck!
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Post#389 » by Paradise » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:32 pm

macgyver893 wrote:you guys ready for a rollercoaster weekend of rumors and emotions??


Let's start today off with some speculation: what is the best outcome of the Lopez scenario from some of the chatter we've heard?

-Get CHA to give up a future first round pick in addition to Lance to help compensate for his issues? (maybe he has been strong arming CHA to give us a pick if we take Lance??)

-Take Perkins and keep him in a salary dump for next season, or flip him right away for Thad Young?

-Get Lamb instead of Lance?

-Involve both teams, or just with OKC?

-Go for a better deal elsewhere and pray Lopez ups his value and doesn't get injured?


It's down to two deals for me.

Lamb + Perkins + fillers or Stephenson + Vonleh, Biyombo, Zeller or a 1st round pick.

Both deals could involve a third team but the sticking point should be getting more from Charlotte and OKC. All I want is OKC to offer up either Perry Jones or Mitch McGary. We're doing the Hornets a big favor more than anything.
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Post#390 » by Luca Brasi » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:43 pm

Hey guys. Big Thunder fan here.

So what's the feeling as far as Lopez to OKC around here? Think it's still gonna happen or no?
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Post#391 » by Luca Brasi » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:50 pm

Why not...

Brook Lopez to OKC.
Thaddeus Young to Brooklyn.
Kendrick Perkins, Jeremy Lamb and Perry Jones to Minnesota.

Thoughts?
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Post#392 » by jeff1624 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:56 pm

Luca Brasi wrote:Why not...

Brook Lopez to OKC.
Thaddeus Young to Brooklyn.
Kendrick Perkins, Jeremy Lamb and Perry Jones to Minnesota.

Thoughts?



Why would both Lamb and Jones go to Minnesota? Minny would be getting a surefire expiring for Young who has a player option next year that he'll probably exercise. And Brook is worth more than Young.

Brook Lopez to OKC
Thaddeus Young, Perry Jones and Jeremy Lamb to Brooklyn.
Kendrick Perkins and Sergey Karasev to Minnesota.
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Post#393 » by Luca Brasi » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:23 am

jeff1624 wrote:
Luca Brasi wrote:Why not...

Brook Lopez to OKC.
Thaddeus Young to Brooklyn.
Kendrick Perkins, Jeremy Lamb and Perry Jones to Minnesota.

Thoughts?



Why would both Lamb and Jones go to Minnesota? Minny would be getting a surefire expiring for Young who has a player option next year that he'll probably exercise. And Brook is worth more than Young.

Brook Lopez to OKC
Thaddeus Young, Perry Jones and Jeremy Lamb to Brooklyn.
Kendrick Perkins and Sergey Karasev to Minnesota.
Would Minny do that? If so, I'm down.

Truth is, if OKC can get Lopez for any combo of Perk, Lamb and Jones, I'm completely in. Lamb and Jones both have shown promise, but I'd give them both up in a heartbeat to get Lopez. It makes sense for all sides.

Why did Brooklyn pull out at the last second when they were the ones pushing it so much in the first place? Think it's gonna happen now or no?
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Post#394 » by jeff1624 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:34 am

Luca Brasi wrote:
jeff1624 wrote:
Luca Brasi wrote:Why not...

Brook Lopez to OKC.
Thaddeus Young to Brooklyn.
Kendrick Perkins, Jeremy Lamb and Perry Jones to Minnesota.

Thoughts?



Why would both Lamb and Jones go to Minnesota? Minny would be getting a surefire expiring for Young who has a player option next year that he'll probably exercise. And Brook is worth more than Young.

Brook Lopez to OKC
Thaddeus Young, Perry Jones and Jeremy Lamb to Brooklyn.
Kendrick Perkins and Sergey Karasev to Minnesota.


Why did Brooklyn pull out at the last second when they were the ones pushing it so much in the first place? Think it's gonna happen now or no?



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That's why. We have a moron masquerading as GM. I'm one of the biggest Brook homers you will ever see and even I wanted the deal to go through just because it seems inevitable that he's gonna get traded and would rather deal him now than risk losing him to injury.

EDIT: Is there anyway Reggie Jackson would be included in the deal instead of Lamb or Jones?
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Post#395 » by Keith Van Horn » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:11 am

so was there any chatter today? Anything new? Haven't checked up on anything.
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Post#396 » by Luca Brasi » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:22 am

jeff1624 wrote:
Luca Brasi wrote:
jeff1624 wrote:

Why would both Lamb and Jones go to Minnesota? Minny would be getting a surefire expiring for Young who has a player option next year that he'll probably exercise. And Brook is worth more than Young.

Brook Lopez to OKC
Thaddeus Young, Perry Jones and Jeremy Lamb to Brooklyn.
Kendrick Perkins and Sergey Karasev to Minnesota.


Why did Brooklyn pull out at the last second when they were the ones pushing it so much in the first place? Think it's gonna happen now or no?



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That's why. We have a moron masquerading as GM. I'm one of the biggest Brook homers you will ever see and even I wanted the deal to go through just because it seems inevitable that he's gonna get traded and would rather deal him now than risk losing him to injury.

EDIT: Is there anyway Reggie Jackson would be included in the deal instead of Lamb or Jones?
ugh. Well your idiot GM is killing me here. I was so pumped yesterday. Interesting that even you as a Brook homer wants it to happen. Any chance the ownership overrides King? They wanted it to go through, right?

And the Reggie Jackson question is a great one. That's what all us Thunder fans are wondering too. Half of us would be willing to include him, half of us wouldn't. I would be. Although it does seem like a lot to give up for a health risk, big contract guy that puts us in the tax. Still, I would do it. I think OKC is unstoppable with Lopez.
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Post#397 » by Keith Van Horn » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:33 am

Luca Brasi wrote:
jeff1624 wrote:
Luca Brasi wrote:
Why did Brooklyn pull out at the last second when they were the ones pushing it so much in the first place? Think it's gonna happen now or no?



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That's why. We have a moron masquerading as GM. I'm one of the biggest Brook homers you will ever see and even I wanted the deal to go through just because it seems inevitable that he's gonna get traded and would rather deal him now than risk losing him to injury.

EDIT: Is there anyway Reggie Jackson would be included in the deal instead of Lamb or Jones?
ugh. Well your idiot GM is killing me here. I was so pumped yesterday. Interesting that even you as a Brook homer wants it to happen. Any chance the ownership overrides King? They wanted it to go through, right?

And the Reggie Jackson question is a great one. That's what all us Thunder fans are wondering too. Half of us would be willing to include him, half of us wouldn't. I would be. Although it does seem like a lot to give up for a health risk, big contract guy that puts us in the tax. Still, I would do it. I think OKC is unstoppable with Lopez.

OKC, with the pieces they have right now, would really be an ideal fit for Lopez. I think you'll all be pleasantly surprised if you land him. OKC will be a better situation for him than staying in BKN.
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Post#398 » by Luca Brasi » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:51 am

macgyver893 wrote:
Luca Brasi wrote:
jeff1624 wrote:

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That's why. We have a moron masquerading as GM. I'm one of the biggest Brook homers you will ever see and even I wanted the deal to go through just because it seems inevitable that he's gonna get traded and would rather deal him now than risk losing him to injury.

EDIT: Is there anyway Reggie Jackson would be included in the deal instead of Lamb or Jones?
ugh. Well your idiot GM is killing me here. I was so pumped yesterday. Interesting that even you as a Brook homer wants it to happen. Any chance the ownership overrides King? They wanted it to go through, right?

And the Reggie Jackson question is a great one. That's what all us Thunder fans are wondering too. Half of us would be willing to include him, half of us wouldn't. I would be. Although it does seem like a lot to give up for a health risk, big contract guy that puts us in the tax. Still, I would do it. I think OKC is unstoppable with Lopez.

OKC, with the pieces they have right now, would really be an ideal fit for Lopez. I think you'll all be pleasantly surprised if you land him. OKC will be a better situation for him than staying in BKN.
Man, you're getting me excited. I really hope this happens. It was THISCLOSE. Here's hoping they get it worked out.
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Post#399 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:12 am

Luca Brasi wrote:
jeff1624 wrote:
Luca Brasi wrote:Why not...

Brook Lopez to OKC.
Thaddeus Young to Brooklyn.
Kendrick Perkins, Jeremy Lamb and Perry Jones to Minnesota.

Thoughts?



Why would both Lamb and Jones go to Minnesota? Minny would be getting a surefire expiring for Young who has a player option next year that he'll probably exercise. And Brook is worth more than Young.

Brook Lopez to OKC
Thaddeus Young, Perry Jones and Jeremy Lamb to Brooklyn.
Kendrick Perkins and Sergey Karasev to Minnesota.
Would Minny do that? If so, I'm down.

Truth is, if OKC can get Lopez for any combo of Perk, Lamb and Jones, I'm completely in. Lamb and Jones both have shown promise, but I'd give them both up in a heartbeat to get Lopez. It makes sense for all sides.

Why did Brooklyn pull out at the last second when they were the ones pushing it so much in the first place? Think it's gonna happen now or no?


Any reason why Presti wouldn't toss in Jackson? Honestly him being an expiring puts us at a disadvantage because we may have to sign and trade him in the event that his price tag is ridiculous.

Personally I'm down to trade with you guys if we can get Perk, Jackson, Lamb and Jones. Two prospects, a nice sized servicable expiring and a PG that we possibly could keep depending on if we can pawn off Williams to someone?

a win win. I'd hope you guys win it all with Brook if it happened. He's a good guy man, he just isn't a #1 option. He'd be perfect with Russel and KD tho, plus Serge would mask his god awful defense. Brook would put up serious points with the way that Westbrook gets into the paint.

Your rebounding would be **** ed tho.
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Re: Re: OKC frontrunners to land Lopez for Perkins/Lamb; Nets in talks For Thad Young (UPDATE: Page 15 - TRADE ON HOLD) 

Post#400 » by NyCeEvO » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:27 am

macgyver893 wrote:so was there any chatter today? Anything new? Haven't checked up on anything.

I have a feeling that talks are tabled until the trade deadline.

OKC now has more time to see if the current group can catch the 7th or 8th spot. If it's still too tight as the deadline approaches, I can see OKC throwing in PJ3 to get it done.

If BKN is doing a salary dump, the FO probably wants to try to get as many wins before the deadline before getting prospects that definitely will take time to build up.

I'm really hoping that's the only reason why things didn't happen.

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