Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[randy84]

BP acknowledged Curry was on the table. Case closed.

And it was confirmed by the Warriors.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2 ... phen-curry

[Matches Malone]

BP acknowledged Curry was on the table. Case closed.

Yup.


Until this newish poster Giannis Parker gets some of his inside info correct, I'm going to treat most of what he's saying as just trying to stir things up and make conversation on the board. Nothing against him but he needs a few things to swing in his favor first before credibility has been achieved.

[MilHammer]

Can't say Ive watched Afflalo that much. Would obviously want Stauskas over him though, and if we go for Afflalo instead I'd be bummed. But I have to assume we're trading a solid player for a slight better role player. Not sexy or exciting, but oh well. Seems like the owners are going to make a few meh moves, just hoping they have the vision and balls to make a splash when it matters.

[Garden Of Edens]

Can't say Ive watched Afflalo that much. Would obviously want Stauskas over him though, and if we go for Afflalo instead I'd be bummed. But I have to assume we're trading a solid player for a slight better role player. Not sexy or exciting, but oh well. Seems like the owners are going to make a few meh moves, just hoping they have the vision and balls to make a splash when it matters.

What is with the infatuation of Stauskas??? He is having a very poor year. How would he be better than Afflalo? Stauskas' agents did a very good job pumping him up before the draft. I really don't think he's going to be an impact player

[pack15412]

What is with the infatuation of Stauskas??? He is having a very poor year. How would he be better than Afflalo? Stauskas' agents did a very good job pumping him up before the draft. I really don't think he's going to be an impact player

Stauskas is a rookie on a rookie contract with upside. Afflalo is who we think he is and can opt out after the season. "Tremendous upside potential" versus a known entity who will be here for half a season.

Doubt we end up with Stauskas.

[theFireBlanket]

Afflalo is textbook Hammond

And he drafted him.

[BobbyLight]

The Bledsoe truthers have always kinda driven me nuts. I dunno why people think we had a shot, just because we were involved in the 3 way. The only reason we were involved was because we were being nice to Reddick. The Kohl Era included a lot of niceties. See the Carlos Delfino deal.

The second part of what GP says feels wrong, there were two many sides saying Curry was an option.

I just hope whatever does or does not happen turns into the Bledsoe "truth" that so many people incorrectly assume.

[raferfenix]

Bledsoe might be the wrong analogy here.

Rather, if Stauskas goes to the Nuggets based entirely (or almost entirely let's say) for what we send the Kings, then this move would look more like Hammond's 3-way draft day deal sending Salmons to the Kings:

Sacramento traded Beno Udrih and the No. 7 pick in the draft to Milwaukee for John Salmons and the No. 10 pick, which turned out to be Jimmer Fredette. The second part of this deal redirected the No. 7 pick (Bismack Biyombo) to Charlotte along with Milwaukee's Corey Maggette, with Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston and the 19th pick (Tobias Harris) going back to the Bucks.

We could have just sent Salmons and the 10 pick to Sacramento for the 7 pick and called it a day. But we moved back to pick up a veteran win now piece.

If the Kings are willing to trade Stauskas and Thompson for Ersan alone then I would hope we run with that deal instead of sending it over to Denver for Afflalo.

Of course all this is far from assured --- and if this analogy is totally off I'd be glad to hear it!

[raferfenix]

I don't think LAC is involved. GAD meant SAC and it auto-corrected to LAC.

Yeah, Clippers aren't involved. I corrected that within a couple minutes. I was sent "LAC" but it was supposed to be "SAC"

Whoops sorry this got confused!

Clippers do seem like a mess either way if there are other talks going on.

Giannis Parker made reference to something "spicier" with Henson in particular, and if Jordan is on the way out in LAC he does seem like someone they might target.

We should also be happy that as of now we pulled Henson out of these discussions, gives us room to use him in our other deals, which are lot spicier, will share details when I can.

[paulpressey25]

I hope that the Bucks position for the future here.

The Marshall injury is a much bigger hit than the casual fan will get right away.

There comes a point where you have to throw in the towel as this team is decimated by major injuries and the Sanders situation.

[raferfenix]

Also, having about 8m in cap space AFTER signing Knight would be a very big asset to carry into next year, just like our 7m is going to assist us this year in a few trades we are currently discussing.

Certainly agree about the value of cap space for a team in our situation!

Putting aside Stauskas etc. -- if Ersan is basically able to net us Afflalo this would be great for us.

I might be concerned though if we'd be including longer-term assets like the LAC pick or Middleton primarily to win now.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I hope that the Bucks position for the future here.

The Marshall injury is a much bigger hit than the casual fan will get right away.

There comes a point where you have to throw in the towel as this team is decimated by major injuries and the Sanders situation.

I hope they make a future oriented trade too. But I could also see kidd being in the owners ears say "hey look what I'm doing with this rag tag bunch. Get me some help and we can make a run."

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[mlloyd10]

My prediction is we bring sessions back

[raferfenix]

I hope that the Bucks position for the future here.

The Marshall injury is a much bigger hit than the casual fan will get right away.

There comes a point where you have to throw in the towel as this team is decimated by major injuries and the Sanders situation.

This perspective strikes a cord with me.

The big caveat though is whether trading for Ty Lawson would be considered a future oriented move as well as one for the present.

I could see him being huge for Giannis' development in particular -- as well as Knight's if we don't include him in the trade.

[mlloyd10]

New 3 teamer

Bucks get: Affalao/sessions/Thompson
Kings get: Ilyasova/Dudley
Nuggets get: Stauskas

Not that I like this, but with Marshall injury and Sanders unknown status.

[VooDoo7]

The Marshall injury is a much bigger hit than the casual fan will get right away.

Naaah. Don't ya know? There are at least 20 Kendall Marshalls in the D-League right now.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Also don't underestimate the ego and possibly irrational confidence of billionaires and super star athletes like kidd. sure these guys are intelligent but they also don't get where they are without taking chances and achieving things people doubted they could do.

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[Giannis Parker]

New 3 teamer

Bucks get: Affalao/sessions/Thompson
Kings get: Ilyasova/Dudley
Nuggets get: Stauskas

Not that I like this, but with Marshall injury and Sanders unknown status.

Bucks do not want Sessions, he replicates what Bayless does, but is worse at the line and on defense.

[dedned]

My prediction : Stauskas sucks.

[paulpressey25]

The big caveat though is whether trading for Ty Lawson would be considered a future oriented move as well as one for the present.

I could get behind a Ty Lawson move. The question is what you give up. I know we all want to dump vets, but if your goal is to "win now", we are pretty thin now at both guard and in the frontcourt as well.

If you bring in Ty Lawson at the expense of two of these four guys (Ersan, Dudley, Henson, MIddleton) we'd be a good team, but really challenged in the size department unless you tell me you know for sure that Larry Sanders rejoins the team in 30-days.